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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 12:00 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 10:07 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  "I think (eight teams is) where it's going," Malzahn said. "We'll see what happens, but I'd personally like to see it."


http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.s...r_home_pop

It looks like the 8 team playoff is on the way.

That's because our head coach is a one trick pony and wants job security. Auburn was stupid to retain him for 7 million a year. He acts, thinks, and utilizes players like the high school coach he is.

He is so inept that he runs a scheme that requires a very concentrate set of skills, but he has yet to recruit a QB with those skill sets. Instead he has to find them by transfer.

We aren't going to 8 teams. The conferences don't want it because they would have to give up highly profitable CCGs to get there.

The presidents are against it because it screws up the academic calendar.

Most head coaches with a brain don't want it because it cuts down even more recovery time for injured players and cuts out their bye weeks in which they regroup and retool mid season, not to mention the time they have to get some players over injuries.

The players don't want it because it is just one more opportunity for a NFL ending injury.

And ESPN doesn't want it and said so this week, because they claim it diminishes the value of the regular season games, and what they didn't say was because it takes quality teams out of the bowls (to which they have purchased the rights).

So forget it. It's not happening. And Gus is just enjoying running his mouth since he got to be a go to color guy for the national championship game.

The CCGs don't go away. The schools go back to playing 11 game regular season schedules.

The division winners play for the conference championship.

Therefore, only the National championship teams play 15 games.
The conference runner ups play in bowls - 13 games.
The best of the rest only play 12 games including a bowl game.

The diminishing the regular season "crap" is them saying we don't want to pay more for this better package and results.

Let's be real. The regular season is a playoff and always has been. The goal is to get to playoffs. 8 teams means more interest and chances to get into the playoffs.

That is why the NFL added wild cards and MLB expanded its playoff.

And 14 AD's in the SEC would scream a collective "Oh Hell No!" Every SEC school plays 7 home games. 4 conference games and 1 home and home 2 one and dones is the recipe. You multiply 77,500 which is the average SEC home game attendance x $60 which is about the going ticket rate for that extra game against a G5 or FCS school and then multiply it x 14 and there are the reasons this idea has no legs. That's 4.65 million dollars in just gate that each of the conference school's lose. Add concessions and merchandising and it's closer to 7 million than 6.

So the schools aren't giving up that money to split it with every conference in the playoffs for an extra game they don't want to play anyway.

And as a South Alabama fan imagine how that impacts your Jags. That's 14 less slots for an SEC school to schedule U.S.A. and give them a payday they need to sustain their program. So yeah boy let's expand those playoffs and cut the economic legs right out from under the lower level schools in the FBS.

At Guinness they would say, "Brilliant!"
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(01-11-2018 10:10 AM)eltigre Wrote:  If we had 8 this year, the committee would have ranked UCF at # 9. It's rigged now and will be rigged at 8.

Except I dont think we go to 8 without a guarantee that each P5 champ is an automatic entry. That leaves the door open for the automatic inclusion of the top G5 champ (the access bowl success, the P5 champs being AQ, and the UCF story--in conjuction with anti-trust concerns--probably makes this very likely). I think the 8 team format is one that is going to be small enough, yet inclusive enough--to be remarkably durable for years to come.
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RE: Gus Malzahn wants 8-team playoff
(01-11-2018 12:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 12:00 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 10:07 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  "I think (eight teams is) where it's going," Malzahn said. "We'll see what happens, but I'd personally like to see it."


http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.s...r_home_pop

It looks like the 8 team playoff is on the way.

That's because our head coach is a one trick pony and wants job security. Auburn was stupid to retain him for 7 million a year. He acts, thinks, and utilizes players like the high school coach he is.

He is so inept that he runs a scheme that requires a very concentrate set of skills, but he has yet to recruit a QB with those skill sets. Instead he has to find them by transfer.

We aren't going to 8 teams. The conferences don't want it because they would have to give up highly profitable CCGs to get there.

The presidents are against it because it screws up the academic calendar.

Most head coaches with a brain don't want it because it cuts down even more recovery time for injured players and cuts out their bye weeks in which they regroup and retool mid season, not to mention the time they have to get some players over injuries.

The players don't want it because it is just one more opportunity for a NFL ending injury.

And ESPN doesn't want it and said so this week, because they claim it diminishes the value of the regular season games, and what they didn't say was because it takes quality teams out of the bowls (to which they have purchased the rights).

So forget it. It's not happening. And Gus is just enjoying running his mouth since he got to be a go to color guy for the national championship game.

The CCGs don't go away. The schools go back to playing 11 game regular season schedules.

The division winners play for the conference championship.

Therefore, only the National championship teams play 15 games.
The conference runner ups play in bowls - 13 games.
The best of the rest only play 12 games including a bowl game.

The diminishing the regular season "crap" is them saying we don't want to pay more for this better package and results.

Let's be real. The regular season is a playoff and always has been. The goal is to get to playoffs. 8 teams means more interest and chances to get into the playoffs.

That is why the NFL added wild cards and MLB expanded its playoff.

And 14 AD's in the SEC would scream a collective "Oh Hell No!" Every SEC school plays 7 home games. 4 conference games and 1 home and home 2 one and dones is the recipe. You multiply 77,500 which is the average SEC home game attendance x $60 which is about the going ticket rate for that extra game against a G5 or FCS school and then multiply it x 14 and there are the reasons this idea has no legs. That's 4.65 million dollars in just gate that each of the conference school's lose. Add concessions and merchandising and it's closer to 7 million than 6.

So the schools aren't giving up that money to split it with every conference in the playoffs for an extra game they don't want to play anyway.

And as a South Alabama fan imagine how that impacts your Jags. That's 14 less slots for an SEC school to schedule U.S.A. and give them a payday they need to sustain their program. So yeah boy let's expand those playoffs and cut the economic legs right out from under the lower level schools in the FBS.

At Guinness they would say, "Brilliant!"

Yup. The 12 games season isnt going away. Every schools budget is based on that.

The most intriguing option Ive seen for revamping college football while maintaining the current 4 game format and selection committee requires a major change---but its really interesting. Essentially, the season would be flipped. The conference season would be played FIRST along with the CCG. THEN---the OOC would be played. AD's would no longer schedule their own OOC. Instead, based upon the results of conference play, the Committee would design an OOC that would match teams to "peers" in an effort to answer questions that we currently have to guess at in todays system (is Ohio St better than Alabama---is UCF for real or just a product of a weak schedule, etc). Then, after OOC---the Committee sits down and selects the final 4 with a much better head to head data set. Its breaks the mold of what we are used to---but it does create a more accurate sensible system without adding games. Frankly, after a lifetime of doing OOC first---idk if I like the idea. Not to mention any team that regularly has 7 or 8 home games isn't going to like the idea either---but it is an intriguing out of the box idea.
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(01-11-2018 12:00 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  That is why the NFL added wild cards and MLB expanded its playoff.

NFL and MLB are businesses with 30 or 32 owners. They collectively agreed to expand their playoffs not because there is something magical about playoffs, but because that expansion resulted in each of those owners making a lot more money, including TV paying them a helluva lot more money for expanded playoffs.

College football is not a collective business co-owned by every school that chooses to field a football team. CFB is an almost random group of schools that have widely varying football operations, don't have common economic interests, and are not partners with each other.
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(01-11-2018 12:07 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:58 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
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(01-11-2018 10:49 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Strongly, strongly opposed and think very small chance we do not finish out the 12 year contract.

With that said, if we get 8 teams at some point, I think people are looking at the Group of 5 spot wrong. People are arguing for and against a guarenteed spot, but I think there will be something in the middle. The most likely outcome in my view would be they would have the highest Group of 5 champion (or possibly independent) in if they are either ranked above a power 5 conference champ or are in top 12/14. That's basically what the BCS did, and I think would be similar here. They are not going to put the Group of 5 champ in if they are a 2 loss team barely in the top 25 (like Boise State the first year of the CFP).

There's also the question of how they deal with independents and I have not seen a lot of talk on that. If the Group of 5 and Power 5 conferences have a spot they can get, while not being in the top 8, then independents would be the only teams without that possibility and, if fact, would probably have to make top 5/6 or so most years to account for other teams below them getting in. Notre Dame is going to either push hard for no auto-bids at all (so they can get in at #8) or want to be included in one. While appeasing Notre Dame is not absolutely necessary, they have a seat at the table here and contrary to popular belief, the rest the conferences really are not pushing the Irish into a conference (outside their own, they would rather Notre Dame be independent than play in a rival conference). I see three ways they could handle this.

1. Independents are guarenteed a spot in if in top 8. The logic here is that independents cannot win or lose a conference and thus if they are in the top 8 (the teams that would be in if we ignored conference championships), they should be in. Unlike others, they could neither get in ranked less than 8 and never be left out if in the top 8.

2. Independents and Group of 5 share a spot. They might or might not have the same rules for getting it (maybe independents have to be in top 10 to take, while Group of 5 could be top 14).

3. No compromise from the other powers and independents treated as just an at large. Mostly likely, especially if highest Group of 5 champ given a way in, this would effectively mean independents would probably have to be in the top 6 or so most years to get in. I don't really think this would push the Irish anywhere, but they would push against it strongly.


The question has already been answered about ND/Independents.

All the P5 champs plus the highest ranking G5. If Notre Dame is rated higher than the next two P5 runner ups then ND gets a playoff berth.

There's no way the powers that be will agree to a G5 autobid over ND.

The networks will never agree to taking a 2 loss Boise (for example) over a 2 loss ND in the playoffs. I'd venture to say that with ND's relationship with the ACC that they'd be in that camp as well.

IF the playoff would expand to 8, the best you'd see is either the committee placing 8 teams or P5 autobids with 3 wild cards.

Does that actually apply if ND has a 5 win 7 loss record?

At the end of the season Central Florida was ranked #12 and Notre Dame was #14.

Assuming 8 teams in this year's playoff, why would ND leap frog the other four P5 schools?

Your reasoning is flawed.

Not at all.

My point was the G5 is no more deserving of a guaranteed spot than ND. That doesn't mean ND should have one, but all things being equal, a 2 loss ND belongs in the playoffs WAY before a 2 loss king of the G5. Hence the 5 champs and 3 wild cards.

There's also no way the P5 will allow an autobid for the G5 over any of their runner ups.

You're whole argument is based on this year's UCF. An undefeated G5 is the exception, not the rule and none of the power brokers are going to make major changes based on one team and one year.
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You want the best teams in the tournament. So you take the six highest ranked conference champions, then the next two highest ranked wildcards.

If only 5 conference champions are ranked, you take 3 wildcards.

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(01-11-2018 01:59 PM)TampaTom Wrote:  You want the best teams in the tournament. So you take the six highest ranked conference champions, then the next two highest ranked wildcards.

If only 5 conference champions are ranked, you take 3 wildcards.

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2016 Field : Alabama, Clemson, Washington, Penn State, Oklahoma, WMU, Ohio State* Michigan*
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2014 Field : Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Ohio State, Baylor, Boise State, TCU*, Mississippi State*

I would probably set the floor at Top 20. 21-25 should not have done enough in the season to warrant inclusion. Top 20 conference champions likely have the record and the title to validate their claim.
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The eight team playoff is also big for the home teams. How much money could Alabama or Clemson make off a home playoff game. $200 a ticket x 100,000 (not including student or luxury seating, just a rough number). That is $20,000,000 in revenue!
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The only way you get 8 is with auto bids for the P5 and the highest ranked G5 (if above a certain threshold, which clearly UCF met this year). This year would have been obvious, you'd have added USC and Ohio state as the other P5 auto-bids, and UCF as the qualified G5. Alabama still would have had an at-large, consensus choice.

The 8th slot is the harder one to guess. Auburn had a case (which looked weak by their not showing up in their Bowl game), but the SEC already had two in. Washington and Wisconsin probably had the best cases, with Stanford, TCU and Oklahoma State having lost too many games. My WAG is it would have been 12-1 Wisconsin based on their competitive CCG against Ohio State. But for sure UCF would get in. We'd be listening to Washington and Auburn fans whining about not getting in. But they'd get a New Years six consolation Bowl.

The advantage of auto-bids is the CCGs would actually mean something again. The B1G and P12 again did not decide a team, and Alabama got in without one (still would in new config). These games have fallen off in importance and interest as a result. But auto-bids puts them back on the map, since they'd decide 5 of the 7 P5 slots, and be a show case for losing schools to get one of the at-large bids (Wisky needed it). That alone makes it worthwhile for the P5 conferences. That two more games, the Semi-Finals, can be put up for bid, and raise another perhaps $40-50M to distribute, mostly to P5 schools, would make going to 8 schools worthwhile. Heck the Championship would still be played this weekend, or rather Monday Night. So it's not a huge delay on things.
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(01-11-2018 11:20 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:14 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  I dont understand the whole protect the regular season thing? If you win your conference and you are in the regular season is still very important. Also there are the at-large spots that are important as well which keeps the regular season as an importance. You would still want to win all your games as there is a chance you could lose the conference championship and want to be able to get the at-large spot.

Needs to be:
ACC Champ
BIG Champ
B12 Champ
SEC Champ
PAC Champ
G5 Champ
At-Large
At-Large

First Round week after conference championship played on campus. This year;
8 UCF @ 1 Clemson
Winners Play in Sugar Bowl
5 Ohio State @ 4 Alabama

6 Wisconsin @ 3 Georgia
Winners Play in Rose Bowl
7 USC @ 2 Oklahoma

There just isn't a compelling reason why that G5 Champ should be in there.

I could see them being an at-large team but not an automatic.

G5 champ has a winning record against P5 in access bowls. If there's going to be any auto-bids there will be one for the G5.
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(01-11-2018 01:43 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 12:07 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:58 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:05 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 10:49 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  Strongly, strongly opposed and think very small chance we do not finish out the 12 year contract.

With that said, if we get 8 teams at some point, I think people are looking at the Group of 5 spot wrong. People are arguing for and against a guarenteed spot, but I think there will be something in the middle. The most likely outcome in my view would be they would have the highest Group of 5 champion (or possibly independent) in if they are either ranked above a power 5 conference champ or are in top 12/14. That's basically what the BCS did, and I think would be similar here. They are not going to put the Group of 5 champ in if they are a 2 loss team barely in the top 25 (like Boise State the first year of the CFP).

There's also the question of how they deal with independents and I have not seen a lot of talk on that. If the Group of 5 and Power 5 conferences have a spot they can get, while not being in the top 8, then independents would be the only teams without that possibility and, if fact, would probably have to make top 5/6 or so most years to account for other teams below them getting in. Notre Dame is going to either push hard for no auto-bids at all (so they can get in at #8) or want to be included in one. While appeasing Notre Dame is not absolutely necessary, they have a seat at the table here and contrary to popular belief, the rest the conferences really are not pushing the Irish into a conference (outside their own, they would rather Notre Dame be independent than play in a rival conference). I see three ways they could handle this.

1. Independents are guarenteed a spot in if in top 8. The logic here is that independents cannot win or lose a conference and thus if they are in the top 8 (the teams that would be in if we ignored conference championships), they should be in. Unlike others, they could neither get in ranked less than 8 and never be left out if in the top 8.

2. Independents and Group of 5 share a spot. They might or might not have the same rules for getting it (maybe independents have to be in top 10 to take, while Group of 5 could be top 14).

3. No compromise from the other powers and independents treated as just an at large. Mostly likely, especially if highest Group of 5 champ given a way in, this would effectively mean independents would probably have to be in the top 6 or so most years to get in. I don't really think this would push the Irish anywhere, but they would push against it strongly.


The question has already been answered about ND/Independents.

All the P5 champs plus the highest ranking G5. If Notre Dame is rated higher than the next two P5 runner ups then ND gets a playoff berth.

There's no way the powers that be will agree to a G5 autobid over ND.

The networks will never agree to taking a 2 loss Boise (for example) over a 2 loss ND in the playoffs. I'd venture to say that with ND's relationship with the ACC that they'd be in that camp as well.

IF the playoff would expand to 8, the best you'd see is either the committee placing 8 teams or P5 autobids with 3 wild cards.

Does that actually apply if ND has a 5 win 7 loss record?

At the end of the season Central Florida was ranked #12 and Notre Dame was #14.

Assuming 8 teams in this year's playoff, why would ND leap frog the other four P5 schools?

Your reasoning is flawed.

Not at all.

My point was the G5 is no more deserving of a guaranteed spot than ND. That doesn't mean ND should have one, but all things being equal, a 2 loss ND belongs in the playoffs WAY before a 2 loss king of the G5. Hence the 5 champs and 3 wild cards.

There's also no way the P5 will allow an autobid for the G5 over any of their runner ups.

You're whole argument is based on this year's UCF. An undefeated G5 is the exception, not the rule and none of the power brokers are going to make major changes based on one team and one year.

There would be 2 wildcards for them. The reality is an 8 game system would have 75% increase in P5 slots and would GUARANTEE every P5 champ participates in the post season. Thats what the sucks most about the current system. One or two P5's every year currently plays a full season of games plus a CCG to crown a champ who isnt allowed in the playoff. That aint going to last.
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(01-11-2018 02:04 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:20 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 11:14 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  I dont understand the whole protect the regular season thing? If you win your conference and you are in the regular season is still very important. Also there are the at-large spots that are important as well which keeps the regular season as an importance. You would still want to win all your games as there is a chance you could lose the conference championship and want to be able to get the at-large spot.

Needs to be:
ACC Champ
BIG Champ
B12 Champ
SEC Champ
PAC Champ
G5 Champ
At-Large
At-Large

First Round week after conference championship played on campus. This year;
8 UCF @ 1 Clemson
Winners Play in Sugar Bowl
5 Ohio State @ 4 Alabama

6 Wisconsin @ 3 Georgia
Winners Play in Rose Bowl
7 USC @ 2 Oklahoma

There just isn't a compelling reason why that G5 Champ should be in there.

I could see them being an at-large team but not an automatic.

G5 champ has a winning record against P5 in access bowls. If there's going to be any auto-bids there will be one for the G5.

And the G5 record is even better when adding the BCS era games.
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Malzahn wants 8 because Auburn was ranked #7 and would have gotten in that way.

Nothing really deeper to it than that. 07-coffee3
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(01-11-2018 02:02 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  The eight team playoff is also big for the home teams. How much money could Alabama or Clemson make off a home playoff game. $200 a ticket x 100,000 (not including student or luxury seating, just a rough number). That is $20,000,000 in revenue!

I seriously doubt anyone is going to sign onto a playoff system in which 8 teams qualify, but only 4 of them get to keep the gate receipts and the other 4 get squat.
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Here's the way you do it:

4 highest rated conference champs (regardless of conference)

4 highest ranked teams after those 4 are selected

This gives a high degree of certainty that we will see the champions of all P5 conferences in the playoff unless one of them produces a champ outside of the top 8 (and at that point you have no credible claim to a playoff spot).

It also gives the G5, ND, and BYU a path to a title too without using up a permanent spot for the G5.

In 2017:

Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Ohio St get in for winning their conferences.
Alabama, Wisconsin, Auburn, and USC get in based on rank.

Top 4 Conference Champs host opening round. The NY6 host the Semi-finals on a rotating basis.

Opening Round losers get slots in the other 4 NY6 bowls (1 per bowl) where they face the next 3 highest ranked teams plus a G5 champ if one did not qualify for the playoff.
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(01-11-2018 04:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Malzahn wants 8 because Auburn was ranked #7 and would have gotten in that way.

Nothing really deeper to it than that. 07-coffee3

No. Gus wants 8 because Gus knows that Auburn wont get the kind of benefit of the doubt 'Bama received if Auburn is the 3rd place team in the SEC. And frankly, every coach who is for 8 wants 8 because it increases their ability to get in.

That said, I want 8 ONLY if the G5 gets an automatic slot and if the P5 champs are auto-bids. I want the committee responsible for filling as few slots as possible. I want to minimize the impact of the ice skating judges.
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(01-11-2018 04:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Malzahn wants 8 because Auburn was ranked #7 and would have gotten in that way.

Nothing really deeper to it than that. 07-coffee3

Somehow, though, I suspect that if we had an 8 team playoff this year, Auburn would not have been ranked #7. As long as being #7 is no more significant than being #11 it's relatively easy to give them props for their late season wins against Georgia and Alabama, and ignore the fact that before their bowl game they were only 3-3 away from home.
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(01-11-2018 06:12 PM)ken d Wrote:  
(01-11-2018 04:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Malzahn wants 8 because Auburn was ranked #7 and would have gotten in that way.

Nothing really deeper to it than that. 07-coffee3

Somehow, though, I suspect that if we had an 8 team playoff this year, Auburn would not have been ranked #7. As long as being #7 is no more significant than being #11 it's relatively easy to give them props for their late season wins against Georgia and Alabama, and ignore the fact that before their bowl game they were only 3-3 away from home.

lol...never noticed that.
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(01-11-2018 04:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Malzahn wants 8 because Auburn was ranked #7 and would have gotten in that way.

Nothing really deeper to it than that. 07-coffee3

Maybe so, but I think Auburn and Washington would have been snubbed. Wisconsin would have gotten in because politics that they are, there would have been was too many objections to 3 SEC schools, and would have forced the committee to choose between Alabama and Auburn. Well we know who they chose already. So Auburn would still be out with 8 teams.
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Gosh, this is all hogwash
College football is much bigger than just 5 conferences that have most everything and they want to eliminate all who is not p5 and have their own champion, this much we know is true
So, what happens with the other 5 conferences?
It seems most g5 people are ok with only one team to represent all 63 teams in this p5 league playoffs, how demeaning!
If the g5 completely split off from the NCAA and just create their own division with a real playoff and hope to god NBC or whoever puts up enough money to make a real go at it and mybe some day both FBS D1 divisions will play a collegiate “ super bowl” for all sports really and what about the Olympic sports ?
It would no longer be “ g5”, it would be “G power”
This is my dream and I approve of my dream
Ok, how many of ya think this is stupid ?
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