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RE: Texas Senate Race
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It might be hard for the “progressives”to reach their goal of a congress “that looks like us” if they cannot define who is what.

I for example,am part Anglo and part Spanish, similar to Bill Richardson, but he is considered Hispanic, and I am usually considered white.

So if Bill and I are both elected to the Senate, how many whites will that be and how many Hispanics?

Barrack Obama’s daughters are 1/4 white. My friend Fred is half Thai, half American of German ancestry. Isn’t it time we stopped identifying people by race, and just treat them as people?

But the Democrats insist on the identity politics. We have to have so many Asian-Americans, and not more than so many white males. And so race will continue to be an important identifier of people.

I won’t be around I. 2044. I am glad I won’t see the race based society the left is building. I saw the first one they built.
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RE: Texas Senate Race
(11-20-2018 06:53 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Overall, hard right policies consist primarily of policies to “starve the beast,” less government (the less the better), hawkish stances towards war, decreased immigration, and so on.
No one has really suggested the policies I brought up weren’t conservative and on the far right of the political spectrum, just that they agreed with the approach and think that it was the correct approach.

Let's take the three you mention, evaluating their "right-windedness" and also their relationship to fascism/Nazism, since so many associate fascism/Nazism with the "far right."

"Starve the beast" and less government may be hard right policies, but they are most definitely not fascist or Nazi. Fascism requires a hugely powerful central government to enforce its edicts. You never heard Hitler or Mussolini talk about small government, and you never saw them do tings to reduce the sized scope of government, did you? I suppose you could make the exception that getting a bunch of them killed in WWII reduced the size of government, but that was not the intent.

Hawkish stances toward war may be fascist or Nazi, but they are not historically right wing. Democrats got us into WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, usually over republican opposition (and republicans got us out of two of them). It was not until the neocons moved from the D side to the R side in the 1960s and 1970s (primarily over dislike of the antiwar and drug cultures on the left) that republicans really became war mongers.

Decreased immigration may be consistent with fascism/Nazism, but it is not historically a republican or right wing thing. Led primarily by pro-business republicans, the right as typically favored more legal immigration and cracking down on illegal immigration. That is not "decreased immigration" or "xenophobic" or "racist," or any of the other invectives that ave been hurled against the right. That is respect for laws and doing what is best for the most Americans. This issue has come to the forefront with Trump, but it is an issue where even a signifiant portion of his own party disagrees with him.

So out of your three right wing ideas, two are not historically right wing, and two are not historically aligned with fascism/Nazism that many try to associate with the extreme right. Got any others?

For the record, I favor smaller government; I believe in having the strongest military on the planet, by leaps and bounds, but never having to use it because nobody dares pick on us, and we don't pick on them or fight wars that we don't intend to win; and I favor increasing legal immigration and eliminating illegal immigration. So I guess I'm "right wing" on one of your three, not on one, and mixed on the third.
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