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since St Bonaventure name came up
before BE expands, they need to get
St John's, Georgetown & especially De Paul fixed.

Dayton is awfull close to cincinnati
could St Bonnies & St Lious be the next 2 for BE
01-10-2018 03:31 AM
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St. Bonnies is only in the A10 because of its long basketball tradition. They really don't belong in a high mid major conference.
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The AAC is the life raft for the non-P5 basketball school.

None of those bb only conferences save the Big East have a TV deal worth anything.

Wichita was smart for jumping for the AAC will always have a TV deal.

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(01-10-2018 06:10 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  St. Bonnies is only in the A10 because of its long basketball tradition. They really don't belong in a high mid major conference.

Bonaquitter is only in the A10 because Canisius denied admission to Bob Lanier. The A10 should have kicked out Bonaquitter when they had the chance.
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(01-10-2018 06:10 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  St. Bonnies is only in the A10 because of its long basketball tradition. They really don't belong in a high mid major conference.

If St. Bonaventure has a long basketball tradition, Houston is a college basketball blueblood. This isn't 1975.

I think you mean because of how long they've been in the conference. Same for Duquesne, La Salle and Fordham. If only they could offload those four onto the MAAC and NEC. The A-10 would then be just a notch below the Big East if they dropped that deadweight.

There's no need for the Big East to expand except to grab legit Catholic schools that could compete, such as Dayton and Saint Louis.
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(01-10-2018 07:57 AM)zibby Wrote:  
(01-10-2018 06:10 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  St. Bonnies is only in the A10 because of its long basketball tradition. They really don't belong in a high mid major conference.

Bonaquitter is only in the A10 because Canisius denied admission to Bob Lanier. The A10 should have kicked out Bonaquitter when they had the chance.

Pretty much beat me to it.
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Why are they called Bonaquitters? Either way, I agree that until the last couple of years, St. Bonaventure had been terrible for a long time so it makes no sense why the Big East would invite them.
01-10-2018 08:23 AM
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They probably hadn't really tried to compete in decades, which describes about a quarter of the A-10.
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I heard UConn was considering the Big East.

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(01-10-2018 08:23 AM)MKPitt Wrote:  Why are they called Bonaquitters? Either way, I agree that until the last couple of years, St. Bonaventure had been terrible for a long time so it makes no sense why the Big East would invite them.

The University at Buffalo's move to Division I coincided with the building of a new arena in downtown Buffalo. To celebrate both, a tournament was held at the beginning of the year featuring the four Western New York Division I schools (UB, Canisius, Niagara and Bonaquitter). UB won the first two tournaments. Bonaquitter found it too difficult to maintain their smugness and sense of superiority after losing to a Division I newbie and refused to take part in the tournament, play in the downtown Buffalo arena or play UB for many years afterward.

Then in 2003, Bonaquitter admitted a JuCo transfer who had only a welding certificate (JuCo transfers have to have an Associate's degree). When it was discovered, Bonaquitter was forced to forfeit all of the games the player played in and was banned from the post-season tournament. There was still a couple of games left in the regular season that the other players refused to play in. Some of those games they refused to play were on the road and cost their conference mates ticket and concession sales revenue.

The A10 debated kicking them out of the conference and made a mistake when they didn't. Bonaquitter is, was and always will be out of its element in the A10. Bonaquitter should be in the MAAC. Of course, they'll never admit that because they think they're better than Canisius and Niagara (and UB) but the reality is they're not.
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@GW


Yeah, we need to unload some deadweight now that Jim Calhoun's recruits aren't there anymore.
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Yeah, there was a stretch there where if you thought Fordham is/was lousy in A10 hoops, Bonnie was worse. Didn't know it got to expulsion-level badness, though.
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Although, Fordham has added exactly zero since they got there. They never should have been added to begin with. "But, but, but, but they're in New York City." Yeah, well so is Long Island and Manhattan and no one is clamoring to add them.

Yeah, that market theory really works.
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(01-10-2018 09:14 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Although, Fordham has added exactly zero since they got there. They never should have been added to begin with. "But, but, but, but they're in New York City." Yeah, well so is Long Island and Manhattan and no one is clamoring to add them.

Yeah, that market theory really works.

I think that's old fashioned Catholic school hate at play. You can tolerate Fordham athletics because academically, they make the rest look better, and you get to be in NYC. All of those around them, like Siena, Iona, Manhattan...they are just like the other small A10 schools (SJU, La Salle, Bonnie)...good luck trying to get on the same line as them. Fordham adds to that, and there's no way they see themselves as equals to those three (G-Dubs and Richmond otoh...).
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Loyola Marymount is in LA, is anyone looking to add them?

The A-10 is visible in New York but it's not because of Fordham. Yeah, it must be an academic thing.
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(01-10-2018 03:31 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  before BE expands, they need to get
St John's, Georgetown & especially De Paul fixed.

Dayton is awfull close to cincinnati
could St Bonnies & St Lious be the next 2 for BE

Have you looked where St Bonaventure is? If the BE wanted to expand back into Upstate it could take Sienna - which is at least in Albany and has access to the 15,000 seat Times Union Center. By all metrics St B's would be a better fit for the the MAAC or NEC than it is for the current A-10.
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I find it difficult to take anyone seriously who uses cutesy slurs like "Bonaquitter".
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I'm pretty sure the A-10 is the Big East's primary farm league. No team in the MAAC is even close.
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Does templefootballfan always write in haikus and spelling errors???
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yes, they told me i was lazy, now i hear it's learning disablity
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