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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
Couldn't agree more.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
He may always fall apart at the end of the season but you need to talk to some of the athletic administrators in private and they will tell you about the problems the Lawson's and their dad were causing. A lot of it was during half time during the games.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
Look harder. There’s plenty of evidence that the Lawson’s were a problem. Did they just get that bitter a few days after the season ended?
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 06:00 PM)2tigers Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
talk to some of the athletic administrators in private and they will tell you about the problems the Lawson's and their dad were causing. A lot of it was during half time during the games.
Yep...
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
Don't be sorry for telling me it's inaccurate, be sorry that I am correct. I watched those games. It was obvious. As for his other seasons I don't know. All I know is what I saw last year.
And keep in mind, I want Tubby gone.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 06:00 PM)2tigers Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
He may always fall apart at the end of the season but you need to talk to some of the athletic administrators in private and they will tell you about the problems the Lawson's and their dad were causing. A lot of it was during half time during the games.
I haven't brought that up but thank you for doing so.
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RE: Parks wow!
Mike Parks is exactly who we have been missing. Guy eats space and is now finding offensive game.
Really like him and especially having him and R. Thornton in together.
I’d love to see a younger and more aggressive recruiting oriented HC but I have to give Tubby credit for developing inexperienced talent
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 11:02 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote: Mike Parks is exactly who we have been missing. Guy eats space and is now finding offensive game.
Really like him and especially having him and R. Thornton in together.
I’d love to see a younger and more aggressive recruiting oriented HC but I have to give Tubby credit for developing inexperienced talent
Careful, you'll be scorned for giving Tubby any positive credit & labeled a Tubby lover.......but Parks has had two impressive games. Hope it continues & our Tigers pick up some unexpected wins.
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RE: Parks wow!
Thornton has a really high ceiling imo .
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 11:02 PM)Nobody4Prez Wrote: Mike Parks is exactly who we have been missing. Guy eats space and is now finding offensive game.
Really like him and especially having him and R. Thornton in together.
I’d love to see a younger and more aggressive recruiting oriented HC but I have to give Tubby credit for developing inexperienced talent
Parks still needs to rebound on the defensive boards...He still is not doing it at a high level.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-12-2018 09:19 AM)NJ1 Wrote: If we had a good true point guard and one more serviceable big, we could compete in this league.
Agreed...
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-12-2018 09:19 AM)NJ1 Wrote: If we had a good true point guard and one more serviceable big, we could compete in this league.
That point guard better be able to shoot it and be a lockdown defender.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-11-2018 06:00 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:45 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 05:30 PM)TigerBill Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:47 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (01-11-2018 01:38 PM)450bench Wrote: Bottom line for me is this. Tubby can coach, no question. It is, however, a travesty that he doesn't have the talent to compete on the highest level. That's on his staff which is ultimately on Tubby. It doesn't appear that the he is willing to change that.
If that's truly the deal, he needs to be gone immediately.
Who knows what will happen but we'll find out soon.
It certainly appears that way, but it appeared that way last season around this time. Crawford was playing great, the team looked good, we were winning games and then the collapse happened. I was suprised, atleast until people started posting the Tub's last 10 game records. Seems like there are two things you can count on with the Tub. He is going to finish around .500 in conference and he struggles in the last 10 games of the season.
The last 10 games of the season the Lawsons were one team, the Tigers were a second team and the opposition was a third.
Sorry, but that is as inaccurate as can be. Without the Lawsons things would have been even worse. There is not one shred of evidence that the Lawsons were a problem last season and plenty of evidence that the Tub was a problem. In fact, go look at the Tub's last 10 seasons and tell us what was different last season then the other 10 years... He always falls apart at the end, always.
Look harder. There’s plenty of evidence that the Lawson’s were a problem. Did they just get that bitter a few days after the season ended?
Cool story, but calling two players that averaged 43% of your points and 49% of your rebounds, the "problem" is bizarre to say the least; especially the rebounding part, which is mostly based on effort and especially on the part of Dedric who was going up against much bigger players on a nightly basis.
LOL...look harder? Ok.
INHERITED PLAYERS
Dedric - transfer
KJ - transfer
Markel - transfer
Randall - transfer
Clergeot - transfer
Marshall - transfer
Woodson - transfer
Martin - bitter
Rivers - happy
I guess Rivers is the only player who is not a "problem."
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RE: Parks wow!
I surmise the Lawson's were a headache, but it is Tubby's $3M paid job to put up with it or find equal or better performing replacement players.
It was also inexcusable to not place much effort into retaining Crawford and Woodson and for not pursuing Nick King.
The worse action Tubby took was retaining Saul and Pooh when more competent options existed. It is the single most root cause for the detrimental effects (especially recruiting) experienced to date. Changes must be made.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-12-2018 09:08 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote: Thornton has a really high ceiling imo .
Thornton is built like a tank, but is not particularly nimble. I think his effectiveness will increase upon learning to make easy shots and using his body to his advantage.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-12-2018 10:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (01-12-2018 09:08 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote: Thornton has a really high ceiling imo .
Thornton is built like a tank, but is not particularly nimble. I think his effectiveness will increase upon learning to make easy shots and using his body to his advantage.
Agreed...
Thorton has issues making simple buckets. He seems to understand the game, play hard and rebound well.
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RE: Parks wow!
(01-12-2018 10:57 AM)macgar32 Wrote: (01-12-2018 10:09 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (01-12-2018 09:08 AM)TIGER DENO Wrote: Thornton has a really high ceiling imo .
Thornton is built like a tank, but is not particularly nimble. I think his effectiveness will increase upon learning to make easy shots and using his body to his advantage.
Agreed...
Thorton has issues making simple buckets. He seems to understand the game, play hard and rebound well.
He enforces, kinda like Ben spiva.
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