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RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 12:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:17 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I think most, like me, are just waiting for Mueller to finish his work, then all should then become pretty clear.

One wonders if Mueller is being tight lipped with any findings. While on the other hand if he was getting pressure to do something hence the Manafort and George P. revelations which could be nothing in itself. Time will tell. If DJT is dirty throw him out. If not let the man do the job he was elected to do.

People who have worked with him point to how meticulous he is. He's not going to release anything major until he has every stone turned over.
Let me ask this, if Mueller comes up with zilch, do you think it finally dies?

No. trump will wave that flag for the rest of his term.
So you mean you'll still believe in collusion even if he's proven innocent?
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(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 03:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:17 PM)gdunn Wrote:  One wonders if Mueller is being tight lipped with any findings. While on the other hand if he was getting pressure to do something hence the Manafort and George P. revelations which could be nothing in itself. Time will tell. If DJT is dirty throw him out. If not let the man do the job he was elected to do.

People who have worked with him point to how meticulous he is. He's not going to release anything major until he has every stone turned over.
Let me ask this, if Mueller comes up with zilch, do you think it finally dies?

No. trump will wave that flag for the rest of his term.
So you mean you'll still believe in collusion even if he's proven innocent?

That's not what I said or meant. If he's vindicated, he will tell the world that every time a camera is in his face for the rest of his term.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:19 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:23 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  People who have worked with him point to how meticulous he is. He's not going to release anything major until he has every stone turned over.
Let me ask this, if Mueller comes up with zilch, do you think it finally dies?

No. trump will wave that flag for the rest of his term.
So you mean you'll still believe in collusion even if he's proven innocent?

That's not what I said or meant. If he's vindicated, he will tell the world that every time a camera is in his face for the rest of his term.
I gotcha. I misunderstood what you meant.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 12:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:17 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 11:22 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 09:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Thanks for posting that Tech.

RWT, on the one hand one would think that this story would have been all over the place, but then, our MSM would rather post the sensational and then look the other way when a new story might change the narrative they promote.

I haven't looked further for more of the kind of details mentioned in the National Review piece, but others have and they're apparently just not out there. Not that I should be surprised.

I think most, like me, are just waiting for Mueller to finish his work, then all should then become pretty clear.

One wonders if Mueller is being tight lipped with any findings. While on the other hand if he was getting pressure to do something hence the Manafort and George P. revelations which could be nothing in itself. Time will tell. If DJT is dirty throw him out. If not let the man do the job he was elected to do.

People who have worked with him point to how meticulous he is. He's not going to release anything major until he has every stone turned over.
Link? So far he has had leaks, fired investigators, hired biased investigators and generally runs a shitesshow while wasting millions of dollars.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

RWT, would I be off base to say: That being said, there's no question in my mind that team hillary was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

No question at all in your mind about Trump. Yet, there's not one shred of factual evidence to support it.

But with Hillary, we have actual evidence that she illegally money laundered money to Fusion GPS through her attorney so that they could collude with russians to make up stories about Trump, which is illegal and why they made sure to launder the money so it would remain hidden, and then ensured Obama and his politized and weaponized DOJ and FBI used the fake dossier to justify wiretapping Trump and his campaign through a FISA court, and then Obama changed the rules to ensure the report would be disseminated easily so that it would leak to the press.

But yea...Trump.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 05:53 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

RWT, would I be off base to say: That being said, there's no question in my mind that team hillary was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources.

For Christ's sake they killed Seth Rich. And we are supposed to just stay silent while they try to run the
legitimately elected president out of town by any means necessary?
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 06:05 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 05:53 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

RWT, would I be off base to say: That being said, there's no question in my mind that team hillary was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources.

For Christ's sake they killed Seth Rich. And we are supposed to just stay silent while they try to run the
legitimately elected president out of town by any means necessary?

With liberals, one has to take baby steps.
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(01-12-2018 06:05 PM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 05:53 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

RWT, would I be off base to say: That being said, there's no question in my mind that team hillary was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources.

For Christ's sake they killed Seth Rich. And we are supposed to just stay silent while they try to run the
legitimately elected president out of town by any means necessary?

If you guys ever expect to be taken seriously...or have rational discussions, you really need to stop this ridiculous conspiracy crap. You look foolish doing so.
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RE: Fusion GPS transcript released
(01-12-2018 05:53 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:28 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  RWT, have you dropped the "collusion with the Ruskis to affect the outcome of the election" conspiracy as well and moved on to other potential skeletons as have so many others on your side of the aisle?

I've never been on any one path with this. Rather deciding to wait until Mueller has completed his investigation.

That being said, there's no question in my mind that team trump was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources. What I don't know and am not going to insist yet, is that any of it changed the outcome of the election, or was necessarily illegal.

RWT, would I be off base to say: That being said, there's no question in my mind that team hillary was using whatever they could to win...and that clearly involved help from Russian sources.

Not so much. However, I see a difference in using someone who happened to use Russian sources as being different than actually using the current Russian government. As far as I know, Steele was not colluding with the current Russian government, was he?

Again, not saying any of this was criminal in nature.
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