Trump said a few years back if he ran Oprah was his first choice for VP.

(01-09-2018 06:43 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 06:21 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 08:28 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I know most here aren't ready to hear this, and it will bring out some trolling, but the truth is Oprah is a satanist and occultic witch. In fact, Hollywood and the uber rich are full of such people.

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything, just pointing out some facts most still have a hard time accepting.

I'm not going to pursue the Oprah/witch thing because others have already gone down that path. But my simple question is does Trump fit in that same category for you?

He's certainly uber rich and he's kind of Hollywood. I also don't think anyone here will ever claim he's very devout or religious.

I think its very likely that he was involved with them until recent times.

I know Hollywood and the elites really seem to hate his guts with a white-hot passion these days, and he has surrounded himself with a lot of evangelical Christians and clearly sides with the Christians against Hollywierd and the elites in entertainment, politics and the MSM.

It appears on the outside looking in that he has turned on those people for now. I know he has said in the past he never felt the need to repent, but things may have changed. Keep in mind that he doesn't have to be a true Christian who has found salvation to do these things either.

Yep...he more than likely "changed" externally for one reason and one reason only, political expediency to go get elected. And sadly, he fooled enough of them to accomplish it. I have little doubt that he has changed anything internally.

Clinton Rape Accuser Juanita Broaddrick Slams Oprah’s Golden Globes Speech



Broaderick nails it. Don't you love through all of this the Dems still worship and exonerate Bubba for his perverted sex offenses and Oprah is one of those.

Quote:There’s at least one person who wasn’t fawning over Oprah Winfrey’s viral speech from Sunday’s Golden Globe Awards in Hollywood.

Juanita Broaddrick, the now-75-year-old retired nurse, has alleged former President Bill Clinton raped her during his 1978 campaign for Arkansas governor, and that his wife Hillary Clinton helped him cover it up. She brought that allegation to the celebrated media titan’s attention.

“Hey @Oprah #GoldenGlobes,” tweeted Broaddrick Monday. “Funny I’ve never heard you mention my name. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?Guess not. My rapist was/is your friend, Bill Clinton.”

Broaddrick also pointed out to a 2004 interview the 63-year-old talk show host conducted with the 71-year-old former president. When Winfrey questioned Clinton about his sex scandal involving former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, she simply asked “What was the most difficult part of that time for you?”

Keep reading here...

(01-10-2018 09:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Don't you love through all of this the Dems still worship and exonerate Bubba for his perverted sex offenses?

Source?

(01-10-2018 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 09:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Don't you love through all of this the Dems still worship and exonerate Bubba for his perverted sex offenses?

Source?

Source claiming the opposite?

(01-10-2018 11:35 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 09:23 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 09:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Don't you love through all of this the Dems still worship and exonerate Bubba for his perverted sex offenses?

Source?

Source claiming the opposite?

Not how it works. I'm not a Dem, but I don't worship nor exonerate Bill for his sex offenses. They were deplorable. You're likely confusing my and others praise for his job as president with that of excusing his shortcomings. We don't. Unless you can show some credible evidence to the contrary.

(01-10-2018 09:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Clinton Rape Accuser Juanita Broaddrick Slams Oprah’s Golden Globes Speech



Broaderick nails it. Don't you love through all of this the Dems still worship and exonerate Bubba for his perverted sex offenses and Oprah is one of those.

Quote:There’s at least one person who wasn’t fawning over Oprah Winfrey’s viral speech from Sunday’s Golden Globe Awards in Hollywood.

Juanita Broaddrick, the now-75-year-old retired nurse, has alleged former President Bill Clinton raped her during his 1978 campaign for Arkansas governor, and that his wife Hillary Clinton helped him cover it up. She brought that allegation to the celebrated media titan’s attention.

“Hey @Oprah #GoldenGlobes,” tweeted Broaddrick Monday. “Funny I’ve never heard you mention my name. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?Guess not. My rapist was/is your friend, Bill Clinton.”

Broaddrick also pointed out to a 2004 interview the 63-year-old talk show host conducted with the 71-year-old former president. When Winfrey questioned Clinton about his sex scandal involving former White House intern Monica Lewinsky, she simply asked “What was the most difficult part of that time for you?”

Keep reading here...

I watched her speech online to see what all the talk was about. I actually thought it was a good speech. The problem I have, however, is that Al Franken or Bill Clinton could have walked out on that stage immediately after Oprah dropped the mic and gotten a standing ovation.

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 12:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Old white people who can’t understand what’s she is saying wouldn’t vote for a black female anyway.

Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.

And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.

I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.

I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

Let's see her go through a grueling primary race like President Trump did. Maybe then I would have some respect for her political abilities. Unfortunately that's not how the Democrats work. She most likely will be quasi -appointed to the detriment of the honest Democratic candidates.

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 12:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Old white people who can’t understand what’s she is saying wouldn’t vote for a black female anyway.

Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.
And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.
I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

(01-10-2018 04:05 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Let's see her go through a grueling primary race like President Trump did. Maybe then I would have some respect for her political abilities. Unfortunately that's not how the Democrats work. She most likely will be quasi -appointed to the detriment of the honest Democratic candidates.

Grueling? The MSM helped him with the process by entertaining his treatment of his opponents during the primary. The only ones who tried to make it grueling was fox.

(01-10-2018 04:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 12:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Old white people who can’t understand what’s she is saying wouldn’t vote for a black female anyway.

Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.
And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.
I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

I agree.

(01-10-2018 04:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 12:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Old white people who can’t understand what’s she is saying wouldn’t vote for a black female anyway.

Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.
And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.
I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

I agree.

Wait what? It started with Obama?

Obama was not a powerful person and he wasn't a reality tv star.

(01-10-2018 04:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.
And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.
I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

I agree.

Wait what? It started with Obama?
Obama was not a powerful person and he wasn't a reality tv star.

No, but he ran as a rock star, not a conventional presidential candidate. He sold the hype, the sizzle, not the steak. At the end of the day, there was no steak.

(01-10-2018 04:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 01:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Well, you don't get to be old without first being young and stupid.
And I understand what she's saying, but she gave me no reason to vote for her. What policies does she stand for? What would she pursue if elected? Those are the kinds of questions that I'd want answers to, and she didn't touch on those, just made a highly charged emotional appeal.
I'm guessing if she told me what policies she favored, I would not be inclined to vote for her, but that's nothing more than a guess at this point

I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

I agree.

Wait what? It started with Obama?

Obama was not a powerful person and he wasn't a reality tv star.

No, I agree that the process of running for the highest office isn't becoming of the office.

It didn't so much as "start with Obama" as much as it started with social media, which happened to be coming into maturity at the same time. It's not his fault, but that election (the first with Youtube, Twitter, Facebook's newsfeed, etc) planted the seeds to what we see now.

(01-10-2018 04:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 04:27 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 02:42 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm the same. My only point is that I think she would be an interesting challenge to Trump.
I personally think going from a reality star to a talk show host sounds like it was written for a dystopian novel.

But I think that's the problem. Hiring the most powerful person in the world has turned into a reality show. It started with Obama and we got even further afield with Trump. I'm pretty much disgusted with the process. As we all should be with any process that gives us the choice of Trump v. Hillary.

I agree.

Wait what? It started with Obama?
Obama was not a powerful person and he wasn't a reality tv star.

No, but he ran as a rock star, not a conventional presidential candidate. He sold the hype, the sizzle, not the steak. At the end of the day, there was no steak.

Maybe not for you but for me he was a great president. I basically made good on everything I hoped he would do.

Secondly, Clinton before him was a rock star. He even jammed with Fleetwood Mac.

Reagan before him was a movie star.

Obama isn't at fault for everything. Geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzuuuuuusssssss

With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.

Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.

(01-10-2018 05:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.

Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.

Obama was a great president. Just look at his approval rating.

He was a community organizer. He knew how to work with people. The republicans vowed not to work with him no matter what. They even walked away from their own legislation to oppose him.

Trump has never worked a day in his life. As far as working with both parties, I welcome it. I'm actually hoping that happens so something can actually get done in Congress for once.

I'm not holding my breathe.

(01-10-2018 05:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-10-2018 05:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.

Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.

Obama was a great president. Just look at his approval rating.

He was a community organizer. He knew how to work with people. The republicans vowed not to work with him no matter what. They even walked away from their own legislation to oppose him.

Trump has never worked a day in his life. As far as working with both parties, I welcome it. I'm actually hoping that happens so something can actually get done in Congress for once.

I'm not holding my breathe.

I don't think Obama was a horrible president, but not close to great.

Trump has worked AND he has some real qualities that you want in a leader. His problem isn't a lack of good qualities, it's a match in bad personality issues.

(01-10-2018 05:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.

Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.

...and the DACA Bill will be the main factor for many non-Trumpers to vote for him come 2018. That's why he had that meeting with Ds and Rs on national television. If it failed the Dims would partly own it if it passed the Rs (which the MSM despises) will get half the credit. The Rs can say that they're not the evil people that hates the working/illegals class like the media and the Demons portray them as.

For that I can say one thing about Trump: He is crazy...like a fox.