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RE: Why P6 won't help the AAC
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.
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(01-05-2018 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.

The MAC has 1 really good school. The MWC has most of their schools in the top 200, like the AAC. The MWC has 3 tier 1 schools research schools: Hawaii, Colorado St, New Mexico and elite Air Force. SDSU is tier 2? Wow, Fanhood. CUSA has Rice and no one else. Sun Belch has no one.
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(01-05-2018 09:32 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.

The MAC has 1 really good school. The MWC has most of their schools in the top 200, like the AAC. The MWC has 3 tier 1 schools research schools: Hawaii, Colorado St, New Mexico and elite Air Force. SDSU is tier 2? Wow, Fanhood. CUSA has Rice and no one else. Sun Belch has no one.

C-USA has Rice, FIU, UAB and UNT in Carnegie tier 1.

Plus in tier 2 are FAU, UTEP, UTSA, USM, Charlotte, ODU
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(01-06-2018 09:51 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:32 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.

The MAC has 1 really good school. The MWC has most of their schools in the top 200, like the AAC. The MWC has 3 tier 1 schools research schools: Hawaii, Colorado St, New Mexico and elite Air Force. SDSU is tier 2? Wow, Fanhood. CUSA has Rice and no one else. Sun Belch has no one.

C-USA has Rice, FIU, UAB and UNT in Carnegie tier 1.

Plus in tier 2 are FAU, UTEP, UTSA, USM, Charlotte, ODU

I should have caught UAB. My bad. FIU and UNT surprise me as Carnegie tier 1 research schools, but good for the. It’s a good marker. Houston just only recently baceame a tier 1.
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RE: Why P6 won't help the AAC
(01-05-2018 09:32 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.

The MAC has 1 really good school. The MWC has most of their schools in the top 200, like the AAC. The MWC has 3 tier 1 schools research schools: Hawaii, Colorado St, New Mexico and elite Air Force. SDSU is tier 2? Wow, Fanhood. CUSA has Rice and no one else. Sun Belch has no one.

All of the MAC schools serve as overflow for the B1G, the strongest public university conference.

For instance the thing in SE Michigan for years was that if you couldn't get into the University of Michigan you would then go to Eastern Michigan. The same kind of kid from the same kind of neighborhood could be found in both schools.

WMU/CMU/EMU are major state schools along with MSU/Michigan. There are a lot of lessor state schools like Ferris St, Northern Michigan, Grand Valley St ect. In Ohio its Youngstown St, Wright St, Cleveland St but they are actually D1.

Many of the CUSA/SBC schools outside of Texas/Florida where they are large major public schools are more of the lessor state school variety IMO. Marshall for example is more on the level of a Youngstown St or a Wright St not a MAC school.
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(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
That's not how the interwebs work.
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(01-05-2018 09:32 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 09:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 12:13 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  The P6 promotion doesn’t necessarily bother me. I think it’s brilliant. All 13 AAC schools are quality universities.
In terms of academic profile, the AAC looks like the P5. The other conferences don't.

7 of the 12 football schools are Carnegie I in research while 4 others are Carnegie II. Only Navy, which is an elite undergraduate school, is not.

There are only 9 Tier I in the other 4 conferences and all but the MAC have 4 or 5 schools below Carnegie II. The MAC has 1, but only has 1 tier I.

In the P5, 7 of the 10 Big 12 and 10 of the 14 SEC schools are Tier I. Only 8 in P5 are Tier II while the other 57 are Tier I.

The results are similar when you look at the number of USNWR national top 200 schools. All P5 are in, almost all the AAC, only some of the rest.

The MAC has 1 really good school. The MWC has most of their schools in the top 200, like the AAC. The MWC has 3 tier 1 schools research schools: Hawaii, Colorado St, New Mexico and elite Air Force. SDSU is tier 2? Wow, Fanhood. CUSA has Rice and no one else. Sun Belch has no one.

The MW has land grant schools and state flagships. You can't discount that.
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One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.
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(01-08-2018 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.

One quibble here: the AAC could get a contract bowl, but for the reasons you mention it just won't be with a major bowl. But i bet something like the Bahamas Bowl would be happy to sign a contract to host the AAC champ in years when they do not make the playoff.
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(01-08-2018 09:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.

One quibble here: the AAC could get a contract bowl, but for the reasons you mention it just won't be with a major bowl. But i bet something like the Bahamas Bowl would be happy to sign a contract to host the AAC champ in years when they do not make the playoff.

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(01-04-2018 11:36 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  All the P6 promotion has done is alienate every other G5 school and fans.


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(01-08-2018 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.

Yup. Ive said before--getting a big raise on the AAC media deal will be easier than trying to significantly improve the AAC bowl line up (basically for the exact reasons you outline). Just to be clear--I do expect the AAC bowl line up to improve in the next cycle (I think their attendance and performance has earned that)--but it will be incremental improvement. Anyone expecting something on the level of a contract bowl (or probably even a Liberty level bowl) will likely be sorely disappointed. 04-cheers
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I don't understand the rationale of (G4) fans when they criticize the AAC about this. Are you guys angry that the AAC is trying to put itself in the best position it can? This is like being angry at someone for doing a good job........

How dare you try and improve yourself!!!!!!
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(01-08-2018 04:02 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't understand the rationale of (G4) fans when they criticize the AAC about this. Are you guys angry that the AAC is trying to put itself in the best position it can? This is like being angry at someone for doing a good job........

How dare you try and improve yourself!!!!!!

What is the G4? Do you mean the G5?
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(01-08-2018 12:09 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  All of the MAC schools serve as overflow for the B1G, the strongest public university conference.

For instance the thing in SE Michigan for years was that if you couldn't get into the University of Michigan you would then go to Eastern Michigan. The same kind of kid from the same kind of neighborhood could be found in both schools.

What? No.

"Dad, my dreams of an Engineering degree at Michigan have been dashed so I'm hitting up EMU"
has rarely been uttered, at least not un-ironically.

I assure you MAC schools are not filled with Big Ten overflow unless the idea of overflow is the same reason I didn't get into Harvard even though I sent in an application 03-lmfao

And I am very proud NIU alumni who was accepted to a number of Big Ten schools.
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(01-08-2018 04:32 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:09 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  All of the MAC schools serve as overflow for the B1G, the strongest public university conference.

For instance the thing in SE Michigan for years was that if you couldn't get into the University of Michigan you would then go to Eastern Michigan. The same kind of kid from the same kind of neighborhood could be found in both schools.

What? No.

"Dad, my dreams of an Engineering degree at Michigan have been dashed so I'm hitting up EMU"
has rarely been uttered, at least not un-ironically.

I assure you MAC schools are not filled with Big Ten overflow unless the idea of overflow is the same reason I didn't get into Harvard even though I sent in an application 03-lmfao

And I am very proud NIU alumni who was accepted to a number of Big Ten schools.

Not to mention people have various reasons for choosing schools. Location, cost, relationships, etc. .
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(01-08-2018 04:25 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 04:02 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  I don't understand the rationale of (G4) fans when they criticize the AAC about this. Are you guys angry that the AAC is trying to put itself in the best position it can? This is like being angry at someone for doing a good job........

How dare you try and improve yourself!!!!!!

What is the G4? Do you mean the G5?

What really is the G5? Is it in the dictionary or some officially recognized NCAA designation?

It's a made up term. I can't blame them for making up another one.
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(01-08-2018 09:43 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.

One quibble here: the AAC could get a contract bowl, but for the reasons you mention it just won't be with a major bowl. But i bet something like the Bahamas Bowl would be happy to sign a contract to host the AAC champ in years when they do not make the playoff.

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You doubt that the Bahamas Bowl would be willing to sign a contract for the AAC champ? I don't. 07-coffee3
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(01-08-2018 05:22 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:43 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 09:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  One quibble with the OP: it will actually be even harder for the AAC to get a contract bowl than a CFP spot. If there’s overwhelming evidence that a team deserves a playoff spot (e.g. undefeated *and* multiple OOC wins against top P5 teams), then the CFP committee *could* be persuaded.

In contrast, bowl committees don’t give a crap about on-the-field results. In a sport that is already biased toward the elite programs, the bowls might be the most elitist of them all. These bowls couldn’t even stand Big East 2.0 with schools like West Virginia and Louisville that actually brought a good amount of fans. Being a “big time bowl” means having schools like Michigan, USC, Florida, etc. regardless of their records. We’ve seen time and time again (and we see it with the payout amounts) that bowls would rather take the 3rd, 4th or 5th place school from the Big Ten or SEC than any G5 school. The bowl part of the system is honestly more entrenched and stacked against the G5 than the playoff itself.

One quibble here: the AAC could get a contract bowl, but for the reasons you mention it just won't be with a major bowl. But i bet something like the Bahamas Bowl would be happy to sign a contract to host the AAC champ in years when they do not make the playoff.

You used to bother me, but you've become a joke. That piece of craziness from you just made me laugh. 01-wingedeagle

You doubt that the Bahamas Bowl would be willing to sign a contract for the AAC champ? I don't. 07-coffee3

The key to an AAC "contract game" has never been finding a bowl. The key is finding a network willing to pay around 40 million a year for the right to televise the game. That wasnt anywhere to be found in 2012 when the CFP was being hammered out. Thats just one of many reasons that Im extremely skeptical of NIU's AD claim that a G5 playoff would be worth $150 million.
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RE: Why P6 won't help the AAC
MWC are close to be a P7 conference. They would be if they boot San Jose State out. Lets look at this by Conference and so forth.

AAC:
UConn. 1
Cincinnati 1
UCF 1
Houston 1
USF 1
Temple 1
Tulane 1
East Carolina 2
Memphis 2
SMU 2
Tulsa 2
Wichita State 2
Navy ?

C-USA:
UAB 1
FIU 1
North Texas 1
Rice 1
Charlotte 2
FAU 2
ODU 2
Southern Mississippi 2
UTEP 2
UTSA 2
La. Tech 3
Middle Tennessee State 3
Marshall 4
Western Kentucky 4

MAC:
Buffalo 1
Akron 2
Ball State 2
Bowling Green 2
Central Michigan 2
Kent State 2
Miami 2
Northern Illinois 2
Ohio U. 2
Toledo 2
Western Michigan 2
Eastern Michigan 3

MWC:
Colorado State 1
Hawaii 1
New Mexico 1
UNLV 2
UNR 2
San Diego State 2
Utah State 2
Wyoming 2
Air Force 4
Boise State 3
Fresno State 3
San Jose State 4

SBC:
Georgia State 1
UTA 1
La.-Lafayette 2
South Alabama 2
Texas State 2
Georgia Southern 3
Little Rock 3
La.-Monroe 3
Appalachian State 4
Arkansas State 4
Coastal Carolina 4
Troy 4

Ind:
UMass. 1
BYU 2
New Mexico State 2
Liberty 3

Some others of interests.
Albany 1
UC-Davis 1
Delaware 1
Georgetown 1
George Mason 1
George Washington 1
Milwaukee 1
VCU 1
Wayne State, mich. 1
August 2
UAH 2
Alaska 2
Colorado Mines 2
Florida Tech 2 (could be 1 in the next Carnegie report in 2020' update)
Fordham
Florida A&M 2
Dayton 2
Idaho 2
Jackson State 2
Lehigh 2
Michigan Tech 2
Missouri S&T 2
Montana State 2
Maine 2
Montana 2
North Carolina A&T 2
North Dakota State 2
Northern Arizona 2
New Hampshire 2
North Dakota 2
Northern colorado 2
Portland State 2
URI 2
South Dakota State 2
South Dakota 1
Southern Illinois 2
Texas A&M- Commerce 2
William & Mary 2
Azusa Pacific 3
East Tennessee State 3
Fullerton State 3
Grand Canyon 3
Idaho State 3
Indiana State 3
Indiana PA 3.
Kennesaw State 3
Lamar 3
Lindenwood 3
Mercer 3
Omaha 3
Sam Houston State 3
Tenn. State 4
Tenn. Tech 3
Kingsville 3
UTRGV 3
Valdosta State 3
Villanova 3
West Florida 3
West georgia 3
Abilene Christian 4
Angelo State 4
Arkansas Tech 4
Cal. Poly 4
Central Washington 4
Citadel 4
UCA 4
Central Oklahoma 4
Delta State 4
Eastern Illinois 4
Eastern Kentucky 4
Eastern Washington 4
FGCU 4
Gonzaga 4
Jacksonville State 4
James Madison 4
Long Beach State 4
McNeese State 4
Missouri State 4
North Alabama 4
North Florida 4
Northern Iowa 4
Sacramento State 4
SFA 4
Tarleton State 4
Towson 4
Weber State 4
Kutztown 4
West Chester 4
West Texas A&M 4
Western Carolina 4
Western Illinois 4
Youngstown State 4

Now, if we go by reports, the AAC looked at or rumored to have looked at Villanova ODU, S. Miss., UMass., VCU and Dayton. It tells you that they are looking at 1 and 2 ranked research schools when they expanded. That eliminated the 3 and 4 ranked carnegie schools. Out of the 1 and 2 ranked schools, they want success on the field and on the court both. That eliminates several C-USA, MAC and SBC schools. Stony Brook could be a future target if they continue to be good at both football and basketball, So for a better tv contract to be better? They may need some more good football schools and add some very good basketball programs, I would look at VCU, Dayton, Stony Brook, ODU, UAB and Northern Illinois to try and boast their image.
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