(01-04-2018 10:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ohhhh. LazyTom. So you are selective in your demands of backing up claims and have zero problem with it.

I pffft your claim that I didn’t back it up either. I searched in google and literally 10 articles came up about loopholes and deductions were kept in the tax bill. Arguing about this is a sideshow. It’s not worth my time or effort. I also linked the Wharton school study that showed it to be 9%. That you are claiming I did to do this is further proof that you have a hard time telling the truth. You as you say are a whiny troll. You really post nothing of substance and the day you are curious about something will be your first. Again, You can find these loopholes yourself if you are truly curious. I back up my claims 100x’s the majority on here. Disagree with me fine. Saying I don’t attempt to back up my claims with citations is just an outright lie. It truly is. I have two in this very instance.

UofM posted a claim. Said he couldn’t find it and then we find out it wasn’t true. At least the midnight at least. Where’s the outrage there? You don’t care about the truth. You just care about a partisan angle. Proof is in who you demand citations.... curious

Round and round we go...

To be clear, you posted the interview about the Wharton study that didn't give fact, only speculation (see Owl many #'s response about that) and then posted a link which talked about the Manufacturing "loophole" that was closed by this tax bill. Continue on....

(01-04-2018 10:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  UofM posted a claim. Said he couldn’t find it and then we find out it wasn’t true. At least the midnight at least. Where’s the outrage there? You don’t care about the truth. You just care about a partisan angle. Proof is in who you demand citations.... curious

When you have to resort to outright lies, as can be confirmed by posts in this very thread, you have mental issues.

Also, funny how you once supposedly had me on ignore. Guess you just couldnt get through the day without me.

Where is this midnight document dump UofM?

GB


You said I made an Emotional claim........ it was a Wharton School study......

You are a clown with a band of jesters.


Still more citations than you ever get from the right on here. That you can post two of them shows that I am correct.

(01-04-2018 11:08 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Where is this midnight document dump UofM?

The agreement to turn over witnesses and documents was made prior to the midnight deadline. They will be turned over starting yesterday, and up til the next couple of days.

Now that the agreement is in place, there can be no further stalling. The agreement basically states that Nunes is entitled to the documents and that the FBI/DOJ will comply.

The Fusion GPS documents are going to be released. You need to buckle up.

(01-04-2018 11:10 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  GB


You said I made an Emotional claim........ it was a Wharton School study......

You are a clown with a band of jesters.


Still more citations than you ever get from the right on here. That you can post two of them shows that I am correct.

Anyone can post two "citations" that don't back up their claim....

My claim...All liberals are homosexuals....

My citations...

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/07/0...ain-rally/

https://thinkprogress.org/about-that-not...07d0354f5/

Now, according to Mach logic...I win.

I said that they got the best of both worlds and the effective tax rate was going to be around 9%...... backed by the citation...........

You are a whiny troll. Is this what you are after? Just trolling me?

(01-04-2018 11:16 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I said that they got the best of both worlds and the effective tax rate was going to be around 9%...... backed by the citation...........

You are a whiny troll. Is this what you are after? Just trolling me?

Honestly, I'm not trolling you, just trying to keep you accountable. I have failed...

(01-04-2018 10:19 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 08:59 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Greybeard I find you very disingenuous. When one person attempts to provide links to his claims you can’t turn a blind eye to 95% of this room. I am one person. I do try to link and back up what I say. I know I make a greater attempt at that than 99% of the board. I believe your attempting to troll me or you would raise the considerations with others.

I'm disingenuous? You made an emotional claim with no facts to back it up.

It's all they got. It's all they've had since the election. No need in expecting change any time soon.

What???????????

I posted where I got the 9 percent. Take that for what it is worth. Still 1000% percent more than I ever get in return. I am not making stuff up out of whole cloth. I am making a statement and showing where I got it. Then you have the audacity to say that “I” have trouble backing up my claims???????

Let’s see here.

On one side we have people who post from the Daily Caller, BizParc Reciew, infowars

I in an attempt to foster legit dialogue.... the Wharton school and I have “YOU” dry humping my leg wanting more sources. GTFO of here. You are being ridiculous.

OK, Mach....I throw this out to the rest of the board...am I off base on this? Did Mach legitimately provide details of all the "loopholes" that he stated were still in the tax bill? Or any loopholes that still existed?

If I'm off base, I will be more than happy to let it go, admit I am wrong, and move on.

(01-04-2018 11:32 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  OK, Mach....I throw this out to the rest of the board...am I off base on this? Did Mach legitimately provide details of all the "loopholes" that he stated were still in the tax bill? Or any loopholes that still existed?

If I'm off base, I will be more than happy to let it go, admit I am wrong, and move on.

No, I don't think so..

I made a statement taken from the article that I cited. That you even received the article is 100,000x’s the courtesy that I receive in return. Add that to the ledger. I actually am sympathetic to your request to a degree. I have many times asked people for evidence of their claims and I don’t get it in return. So Even though I provided the link where I got it I didn’t know where the Wharton School study got their numbers.

You have to take into consideration to the source. I would think that the source of the information would be above this ( I would say petty) request. Some of the **** that is cited here amongst you righties. The Wharton School should be a golden standard. Again far far far more credible than I ever receive in return. Case in point. UofM’s claim of midnight document dumps from what he heard on Hannity. It’s a bizzaro world we find ourselves in.

lololol, its so fun to watch Mach become unhinged. He REALLY believed that meeting yesterday was about impeachable offenses. Only to find out that speaker Ryan was telling the DOJ and FBI he was about to bring the hammer on them.

Hey Mach, if you kept up with the real news, you would have not have been played like a fiddle.

The left and their little grubers.

By the end, these guys will be claiming Trump is really a Democrat, and they all preferred Pence from the start.

(01-04-2018 12:04 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By the end, these guys will be claiming Trump is really a Democrat, and they all preferred Pence from the start.

I wouldn't say Trump is a Democrat or a real Republican..he belongs to the party of Trump.

And yes, I would prefer Pence.

(01-04-2018 02:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 12:04 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By the end, these guys will be claiming Trump is really a Democrat, and they all preferred Pence from the start.

I wouldn't say Trump is a Democrat or a real Republican..he belongs to the party of Trump.

And yes, I would prefer Pence.

It’s not what Trump considers himself.

(01-04-2018 12:04 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  By the end, these guys will be claiming Trump is really a Democrat, and they all preferred Pence from the start.

Marc many of us here said all along trump was at best a moderate except on a couple of issues. He was like my 11th choice of everyone who announced, there were even some dems in front of him