(01-03-2018 10:36 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:08 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Memphis can claim Chalmers didn't hit that 3-pointer but it doesn't make it so.

That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

More money and it is his alma mater.

You can do better than that. UCF could easily match the money as a national champion.

(01-03-2018 11:09 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:08 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Memphis can claim Chalmers didn't hit that 3-pointer but it doesn't make it so.

That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

He's done all he can do at UCF. Finish an undefeated season and be the only team to do so. He's looking for another challenge - that's why he's going to a 7-loss team. That, and it happens to be his alma mater, he's getting a huge bump in pay, and he is practically a hero there for his play while there.

As for your argument (and since you appear to be a fan of the SEC): Why did Saban leave LSU after winning a National Championship? To go to his next challenge - trying to resurrect the Miami Dolphins. If I recall, they weren't the best of teams the previous season. These guys are all the same or they wouldn't be in the business - they want to challenge themselves to prove their mettle.

I understand the 'challenge' part. But Frost only coached at UCF for 2 seasons. So he has only had 1 real recruiting class before this year. Most of the players he didn't recruit. So the 'challenge' argument really isn't as applicable as Saban's who spent 5 seasons at LSU and did not leave LSU until the season after winning the NC.

I'm not a fan of the SEC. I'm a fan of the Tigers. My kids attended UGA, so I pull for them if they are not playing the Tigers. I hate Ole Miss, TN and AU. The others I am indifferent.

UCF could pay him everything Nebraska is paying him.

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:08 PM)TOGC Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 01:55 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Interesting story on UCF AD Danny White (not the Cowboys QB) claims national football title for the Knights.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-bowl-win/

Memphis can claim Chalmers didn't hit that 3-pointer but it doesn't make it so.

That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

As Bear Bryant once said- When mama (Nebraska) calls to come home, you come home (maybe not the exact wording but you get the gist).

(01-04-2018 10:22 AM)wylioats Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:08 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Memphis can claim Chalmers didn't hit that 3-pointer but it doesn't make it so.

That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

As Bear Bryant once said- When mama (Nebraska) calls to come home, you come home (maybe not the exact wording but you get the gist).

Mama called. He was gone in October.

(01-04-2018 09:21 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 10:36 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

More money and it is his alma mater.

You can do better than that. UCF could easily match the money as a national champion.

It's still his alma mater, and what does it matter? Nebraska is a better gig, no one is disputing that. Why did Cal leave Memphis? It's a better gig ... he could've won it all here, but Kentucky is a better job. If we had beaten Kansas, I am 100% confident he still would've left.

Sounds like you are arguing just to argue. There's no relevance to Frost leaving and whether or not UCF has an argument that they are National Champions.

(01-04-2018 12:23 AM)Herff Tiger Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:29 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I don't know what you are talking about. what is the "G5"? I know about the G4 and the P6, but "G5"...

I don't like that American Power commercial, "POW6R" or "Pow6r" or whatever it is. We have some strong teams right now, a few years ago Temple and Houston were strong, and UConn was for a couple of years, back before the AAC. Cincinnati was back in that time too. But I don't think you can legitimately label us a Power Conference.

Maybe in a few years we'll have enough teams put it together at the same time and the quality of play and conference SOS will earn us that name, but marketing hype won't make it true now.

Come on, man... We are not a Power conference, nor will we be if "Maybe in a few years we'll have enough teams put it together at the same time and the quality of play and conference SOS will earn us that name." When we will be a Power conference is when we have a major bowl tie-in and we get at least $12-$15MM per team per year. The point of the marketing campaign is not to say that we are a power conference NOW. The point is to start the ball rolling that way. First you believe, then you achieve. Not the other way around.

Or in political terms - tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.

The late great Harry Chapin once wrote "reality is only just a word." "Power 5" is a made-up, contrived, propaganda/PR move to separate us from them. It is perception. We are merely just trying to change perception.

It used to be that if you had a "top-tier" team in your league, you got a "seat at the table". For instance, back in the '80's, there is no way the Big East gets an automatic Orange bowl bid if they don't add Miami. AT least, under that system, if a league could get one of its teams to a high enough level, that team's success would benefit everyone in the league.

Then the bigger leagues started poaching the top-tier teams during the league expansion period (starting back in the early '90's.) That happened to the BE when the ACC poached Miami, Pitt & BC, and to CUSA when the BE poached Louisville, USF & Cincinnati, and again when the ACC poached Louisville a couple of years ago.

I"m not saying that we would have a "seat at the table" if Louisville was still in the AAC, but it sure would help our argument for a P6 group of conferences.

Pushing this narrative helps everyone. We all know what the deal is but pointing out the flaws in the current system is a good thing. Contrgats to UCF, if we were in the same boat I would hope we would be printing NC T-shirts.

(01-04-2018 03:10 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  Pushing this narrative helps everyone. We all know what the deal is but pointing out the flaws in the current system is a good thing. Contrgats to UCF, if we were in the same boat I would hope we would be printing NC T-shirts.

Agree. And - I'm not normally an advocate for mixing politics and sports - but if there was ever a time, now is when key leaders from AAC states should be getting behind this also. When Utah was routinely getting the shaft, Orrin Hatch got involved. Whaddaya know, Utah got invited to the P12.

The problem is UTK owns all of our pols with any clout. I'm sure Florida is the same way with FSU and UF.

(01-04-2018 09:21 AM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 10:36 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:28 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:24 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 09:21 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  That is totally in-congruent with the situation at hand.

He lives to run down the Memphis program.

Meanwhile, UCF is paying their coaches the same stipend they would IF they had won a national championship.

That's big time football.

Is a coach leaving a team that just won their so called 'national championship' and going to a team that lost 7 games big time? If he really thinks they won the national championship why is he leaving?

More money and it is his alma mater.

You can do better than that. UCF could easily match the money as a national champion.

My answer had two parts to it. Money AND ALMA MATER. I don't think UCF can match the second part.

I personally think it’s pretty damn awesome that UCF is showing the BALLS to make this claim. Many decades ago colleges such as BAMMER made claims on national titles which they shouldn’t have claimed.

I think it’s funny as hell to see the SEC d-sucker PAUL F have to fight to dispute UCF’s claim.

The record is clear and non disputable

UCF BEAT AUBURN

AUBURN BEAT BAMA AND GEORGIA

UCF IS UNDEFEATED

PERIOD. PERIOD. PERIOD