(01-03-2018 01:44 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 01:32 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 06:19 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(01-02-2018 06:11 PM)Footballeagle Wrote:  The ole Metro Conference. It was a great Basketball conference. Casey Fisher, John White, Kenny Syler, Randolph Keys were a fun group to watch

yep. you forgot my favorite from that team though - Derrick Hamilton! he had the best dunks.

that starting five was too much fun watching from the rowdy rail.....man, we gave the refs more shite than you can imagine...that was our version of the fab 5

fisher moved like he was on ice, white had the purest stroke I've ever seen, hamilton and keys were monsters inside, and syler was there when you needed him....

the spoon years were pretty dayum good too....

#goodtimes

Best Rowdy rail moment ever had to be the night the post player from cincy had heard enough and threw the ball in the stands after a dunk.

he thought it was dodge ball.....

the shite we gave the opposition/refs back then would get one arrested today (seriously, the 'n' word was NEVER an option....it was always about mummy, sis, or the ho' playing slow)

#collegeageddrunks .... wouldn't trade it for anything....

I'm sure the entire situation has caused Doc's problems here. My problem isn't with Doc at all. I'm sure he's a nice guy doing the best with what he's got. But let's be real. He was hired to get us through the NCAA investigation. It's over, so it's time we turn over a new leaf and reignite some excitement into this program. It's not his fault, but he'll take the fall. Like Batman at the end of The Dark Knight.

(01-03-2018 11:58 AM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  Doc's never won anywhere and looks like he won't here.

He did win at UTEP, albeit with Gillespie's players.

Seems most people in CBB think he has a very high basketball IQ, and is a good guy to have on your bench as an assistant, but isn't cut to be a head coach at the D1 level. He's an average at-best in-game coach and not a good recruiter.

(01-03-2018 09:49 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Doc isn't cut to be a head coach at the D1 level.

Sounds like a perfect match.

Doc needs to win these next 2 games. Point blank. This team seems to be a little better than last year. But with the transfers eligible and returning players a year older I was expecting more. I thought 18 wins should be doable. But for me to continue to support him he needs to win these 2 C-USA games at home against sub par teams. If he doesn’t he’s most likely looking at 0-6 to start conference play. That’s not good enough in year 4, no matter how bad of a situation he came in to. At that point I would begin actively hoping for his firing. I’ve been patient because he walked into the worst situation imiginable, but in year 4, he can’t post another awful record, we should be doing better than that.

When I say I’ve supported him, I don’t mean I’ve ever thought he was a great coach or the right man for the job. I just haven’t openly hoped for his firing like some. I didn’t love the hire and have never thought he was doing great. However, considering how bad things were I was patient with him, hoping he could be serviceable and get us through the NCAA mess, put together some solid teams in years 4-6, make the job more desireable and when he moves on we hire an up and comer. No really great young coach was ever coming here during the mess we were in the last few years. I hoped he’d keep the seat warm, have a little success, ride off into the sunset. Then we hire another coach of Donnie Tyndall’s caliber except this time one that wouldn’t get us in trouble. That is what I had hoped Doc could do.

In reality, Doc hasn’t improved the situation at all and may be making it worse, making the job less and less attractive for the future. In this case he needs to be fired as soon as we can get it done. I am about 80% sure this is what needs to happen. If he can win these games this week AND salvage a 14-16 win season, I’d be willing to reserve a final judgement until next year. Next year I’d expect him to win around 20 games or he’s gone. However, if he can’t get these 2 games this week, we are looking at another 10-12 win season. In that case I’d be convinced, he has to go ASAP.

Basically I just went around the world to say that, in my opinion, Doc’s job should depend on the rest of this season, and potentially next. These next 2 games are absolute must wins in that regard.

(01-03-2018 09:49 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Seems most people in CBB think he has a very high basketball IQ, and is a good guy to have on your bench as an assistant, but isn't cut to be a head coach at the D1 level.

This right here is why I’m skeptical he leaves of his own accord before his contract runs out, even if it gets down to only one year remaining. What’s in it for him to resign rather than chance being fired? If you’re a young coach hoping to keep your reputation intact and get a second chance at some point down the road, that’s one thing, but this is realistically Sadler’s last opportunity to be a head coach. He can always become an assistant again and will have no trouble landing elsewhere in that capacity. He’s got nothing to lose by holding on to this job as long as he possibly can.

(01-03-2018 12:52 AM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  And boy, you attend games? You must be as fun as a barrel of monkies to sit next to, with your negative attitude. Ill look for the most pissed off person in the building if i ever attend a game and be sure to avoid you.

You say “if I ever attend a game”?

That says all anyone who actually is a USM fan needs to know about you.

2.5 point favorites at home vs. East Juarez tonight. Gobbler's new TVs are paying off already.

I was somewhat optimistic at the beginning of the season, but I was wrong.

The basketball program has exactly one pitch: playing time. That is IT.

The facilities are among the worst in the country, we have no fan support, we have no tradition, no prestige, a bad conference and a limited talent pool. Outside of playing time, why in the hell would any decent recruits want to play here? Just be honest with yourselves.

Fielding a competitive basketball program will always be an uphill battle here. It always has been. We hang our hats on a NIT championship from 30 freaking years ago. Eustachy did well here because he's a good basketball coach.....naturally we didn't try to retain him because he didn't give us warm and fuzzies. Tyndall did it because he cheated and had schedules that probably ranked in the 200's in difficulty. Doc isn't any good, but what exactly were you people were expecting? We have no money either, so just tough it out and put your hopes and ifs in the baseball program. Besides, it would be stupid to piss away 700k on a program that has some glaring needs independent of the coach. We will probably need it for football after next season anyway.

Regardless of who is coaching next year there are some positives to build on......only 1 senior on this year's roster, the current starting 5 are all juniors along with 3 other juniors on the bench, and 3 sophomores. We will be up to 11 scholarships next year from the current 9 which would give whomever the coach is the flexibility to bring in more options while still having a good base of returning experience; not necessarily extremely or 3 (or 4) star talented experience but it is experience along with the fact that all postseason bans/sanctions have been served. With 2 more years still on his contract if he can't produce next year he needs to be shown the door for sure.

(01-04-2018 12:48 PM)usm99 Wrote:  Regardless of who is coaching next year there are some positives to build on......only 1 senior on this year's roster, the current starting 5 are all juniors

They aren't very good though

(01-04-2018 10:41 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  What were you people were expecting?

Pretty much what it is now. The new TVs are a surprise.

Doc and his boys took care of business last week at home so now let's once again see how they do when they are on the road as well as against better competition. I don't expect to win both but at the same time the improvement from the last 2 games will be quickly forgotten should we get blown out at both UAB and Middle Tennessee.

We won’t go to NCAA this year, so realistically, it’s best to evaluate at seasons end how we improved and not game to game. If we lost out, would anyone care that we had a 2 game win streak? And if we won out, would people care what happened OOC?

Well that last 2 games were more than just wins. We controlled both games most of the way. They showed that, on our home court, we are better than the bottom teams in the conference. I don’t see any way we could possibly lose out unless we have a major injury. Now if we can go on the road and get some wins against the bottom teams, and steal a win at home against a decent team, that will represent another step forward.

I don’t expect any road wins against any of the top 4 teams in the conference. I don’t think we’re that good yet. But I could see us getting 1 of them at home. Problem is, without having looked at it a whole lot, it seems like our road schedule is pretty tough by C-USA standards. Our first 4 road C-USA games are against teams that may finish top 5.

(01-04-2018 01:23 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 12:48 PM)usm99 Wrote:  Regardless of who is coaching next year there are some positives to build on......only 1 senior on this year's roster, the current starting 5 are all juniors

They aren't very good though

we're playing a 4 guard setup most of the time that protects the ball and will live and die on shooting % and making free throws when we get fouled....it's not like we're going to outmatch in size....depth is our biggest problem right now.....

I'm curious......wtf did you expect at this point???

that's our game this year.....just don't watch it if you don't like it.....tune into oprah.....

(01-08-2018 05:44 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  If we won out, would people care what happened OOC?

Probably be too busy fighting off zombies to notice.

(01-08-2018 06:29 PM)Eagle9 Wrote:  Well that last 2 games were more than just wins. We controlled both games most of the way. They showed that, on our home court, we are better than the bottom teams in the conference. I don’t see any way we could possibly lose out unless we have a major injury. Now if we can go on the road and get some wins against the bottom teams, and steal a win at home against a decent team, that will represent another step forward.

I don’t expect any road wins against any of the top 4 teams in the conference. I don’t think we’re that good yet. But I could see us getting 1 of them at home. Problem is, without having looked at it a whole lot, it seems like our road schedule is pretty tough by C-USA standards. Our first 4 road C-USA games are against teams that may finish top 5.

this is doc's challenge this week....taking one on the road by keeping the "C" moving forward is the task at hand....

these guys don't suck....we simply don't have enough of them....

(01-08-2018 06:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  We don't have enough guys that don't suck.