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The Western teams have had it with the beat downs they have been handed in the conference championships. Go align in a weaker conference so we can claim our wins in bowl games.
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12-30-2017 08:47 PM
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I do think changes are coming to the G5 level. I also think So Miss, UAB, and La Tech are the only true unknowns. Would they rather go West with the Texas schools or East with Marshall, MTSU, WKU, ODU, FAU, etc?



I would love to see a new eastern based G5 conference. Something along the lines of

East

Marshall
ODU
FAU
FIU
App State
Ga Southern

West

MTSU
WKU
So Miss
UAB
La Tech
Troy
12-30-2017 10:21 PM
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Why is UTSA being left out? Just curious
12-30-2017 10:25 PM
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RE: New Conference
(12-30-2017 04:43 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-30-2017 04:22 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  
(12-30-2017 04:10 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-30-2017 03:54 PM)Soaring Eagle Wrote:  
(12-30-2017 03:39 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  I dont think USM or UAB or La Tech would want to leave WKU , MT or ODU

Not going to speak for all of USM but watching ECU, Memphis, TCU, UL, and Tulane leave us behind, I don’t care how you arrange the deck chairs.

As to the proposed new conference I don’t see any advantage over the current lineup.

Doesnt make any difference how you mix and match any or all or some of the group because it will make no difference at all. Therefore, for the time being, USM will either head out as an Indy or restructure with a group including ULL, ULM, So Alabama, Troy, Ark State, Mdl Tn, La Tec h if they want in, and another or two around the fringe. This move WILL result in less team travel and better fan proximity. Those are the only alternatives. No need for us to travel to UTSA, New Mexico State, Fla Intl, FAU, Old Dominion, etc when So Ala, ULL, Troy, ULM, etc are just around the corner.

You will die as an Indy. For all that is right in college football, you're willing to join up with ULM and So Alabama?

Have at it.

I will invite you down when we play South Al. Take a look at the crowd and then remember the 25-30 that shows up from N Tex. and you will see how that will work for us.
i would still prefer the 25-30 from nt than being in a league with south.
There is no way we or anyone we are associated with would survive as an indy
12-30-2017 10:36 PM
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For some of you (well most of you) I have one question for you. Why do you hate basketball?

Any arrangement that doesn't create a strong football AND basketball establishment is a non-starter. You are just rearranging the chairs on the titanic. I've now been shown the error of my ways. While I readily admit football drives the bus, no bowl game can do what winning basketball games in the NCAA tournament can do. Perhaps short of making the access bowl but even then I have my doubts.

If the Texas schools want to forge their own path more power to you. But you aren't getting La Tech, because they care about basketball. And I kind of hope USM still cares about both too but hard to tell right now.
12-31-2017 12:06 AM
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Oh boy another realignment thread among the G5 where everyone can put forth their personal preferences that will never fly with the personal preferences of any of the other G5 posters because it never addresses the root problem of the fact that we are all G5 and doomed!

And for my G5 personal preference, it is more than swallowing pride to accept ull.
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This thread makes me 03-lmfao
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RE: New Conference
(12-30-2017 10:21 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I do think changes are coming to the G5 level. I also think So Miss, UAB, and La Tech are the only true unknowns. Would they rather go West with the Texas schools or East with Marshall, MTSU, WKU, ODU, FAU, etc?



I would love to see a new eastern based G5 conference. Something along the lines of

East

Marshall
ODU
FAU
FIU
App State
Ga Southern

West

MTSU
WKU
So Miss
UAB
La Tech
Troy

I would support this 100%. I have nothing against the Texas schools, just no attachment to them either. Heck, we've been in a conference with UTEP for 13 years and only played them 4 times in football. With 14 teams we may not play them for another 6 years, who knows. 14 teams is too many, we still haven't even played La Tech in a regular season game.

We have history with Appy, Ga Southern and even Troy.
12-31-2017 01:32 AM
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With every year that passes we all come closer and closer to what is our ultimate fate, which is complete separation from the P-5 "haves" schools. We're almost there now when you consider the fact that we can no longer even compete with P-5 schools in something as basic as the lunchroom anymore. As the gap between the G5 and P5 schools widens each day, it matters less and less how we organize ourselves into G5 conferences.

As for as basketball being a factor in G5 reorganization, anyone that believes that the P5 is going to continue to allow any G5 teams to get "at large" births into the NCAA tournament is naive. Those days will soon be gone forever too.

The people that run college athletics (the rich P5 conferences) are systematically pushing G5 schools out of any degree of relevance at all in ANY sport. The only value we have to P5 conferences these days is that we provide them with the OOC opponents they need in order to fill up those 7 home game schedules every year. Those high dollar season ticket sales are necessary for P5 members to make the whole system work.

These things being said, it will still be fun to watch as threads like this one continue to pop up as we all squabble over who is truly the tallest midget in the room. No one but us cares what we do, so in the end, anything we do or don't do about reorganizing ourselves won't move the needle for any of us.

I'm still thankful that La Tech is in CUSA. We have USM, Rice, UNT, and UAB that are all within "easy" driving distances of where most Tech fans live, plus we have MT and UTSA that are within what I'd call "reasonable" driving distances. I enjoy being able to make a few away games each year, and they're usually pretty competitive games that are fun to watch.

Happy New Year everyone!
12-31-2017 07:56 AM
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(12-30-2017 05:18 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Since we are apparently making up conferences that will never happen, I would be happy with this one for ODU -

ODU
ECU
Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
Charlotte
LA Tech
APP State
GA State

I like that arrangement a lot. But since ECU would never go for that I would suggest switching them with a basketball only school... someone like a Belmont. That gives you the perfect scheduling numbers for both football and basketball. 9 teams in football gives you 8 conference games (4 home, 4 away, play every team every year) and 10 teams in basketball gives you 18 conference games (play every team home and away every year).
12-31-2017 07:59 AM
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(12-30-2017 10:21 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  I do think changes are coming to the G5 level. I also think So Miss, UAB, and La Tech are the only true unknowns.


I think where you’re mistaken is assuming any of those schools has to choose between east or west. They can grab MTSU and a few Sun Belt schools and make a nice, regional conference in the center of east and west. “But what about the schools on east and west sides?” That’s not really our problem to worry about.
12-31-2017 09:08 AM
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(12-30-2017 10:25 PM)davi78239 Wrote:  Why is UTSA being left out? Just curious

My bad. Yes, UTSA should be in this new conference. To satisfy La Tech, I’d dump ULL and add NutsaK.

New Mexico State
Texas State
Rice
UTEP
Arkansas State
North Texas
Louisiana Tech
UAB
Southern Miss
UTSA
12-31-2017 09:49 AM
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The reason this will never happen is because CUSA and the Belt would have to agree on the teams. Both new conferences must be a 12-12 split with equal TV money and an NCAA autobid while being aligned geographically.... Thats a tall order.
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Why must they agree? It seems an airport meeting is in order.
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(12-31-2017 10:04 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  Why must they agree? It seems an airport meeting is in order.

I don't think any...or at least most of the schools don't have the money...and don't 6 teams have to have played together for 7 years or something?
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Starting a new conference is impractical. Won't happen for too many reasons. Improving the conference we have should be the goal. We can't kick anybody out either. What's done is done, unless you're really bad, like Temple was, to get kicked out of the Big East, so that isn't going to happen.

We all want tighter geographic divisions to save travel costs. You could do that by adding schools, but there would need to be added incentive, like more revenue from an extra game or two. If you could pull-off a 4-team playoff for a C-USA swelled to 18 members and 3 divisions, you might have something.

WKU, MTSU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte is a solid grouping. App State and ECU WOULD fit there well, and the Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana schools could be tight as well, but the politics are screwy.

First, UTEP doesn't want NMSU in C-USA with them. La Tech doesn't want ULaMo in C-USA with them. I think they're apathetic to ULaLa. UAB doesn't want Troy or USA in C-USA. I could start pointing to AAC schools, but that would be REALLY boring. (I mean, UCF would just die if it was associated with FAU or FIU. LOL! too soon?)

I like the idea of going big, really big eventually. Your eventual goal is to swallow the bottom of FBS and NOT separate from the P5 schools. That way you control the growth of FBS, consolidate TV markets, and push a massive voting block.
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2060 Miles of hate!!!
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(12-31-2017 07:56 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  As for as basketball being a factor in G5 reorganization, anyone that believes that the P5 is going to continue to allow any G5 teams to get "at large" births into the NCAA tournament is naive. Those days will soon be gone forever too.

This would truly be the biggest and most depressing change. We would hand 80% of the p5 a L as it sits today. Yet we barely get a at large opportunity. The top of most g5 conferences have to win the ccg to get in. It is slowly going that waycompared to football but I've kind of give up on that. But hopefully basketball can stay at least remotely pure, or at least no less than it is now.

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Maybe schools that lose money on bball would be open to dropping it? It's obvious who cares and doesn't and there is no shame in it. If you're a football school just field football. Split the teams up with those that want to go all in with football only and drop bball. Is that even possible with title ix? I'm just spouting nonsense anyway.

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(12-30-2017 05:16 PM)Noodles Wrote:  I'd rather drop sports than be in a conference with Western Abortion Methhead Dollar General Diarrhea Junior College.
******* viruses.

Wow, which school are you referring to? NMSU?
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