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RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-28-2017 09:47 PM)TTT Wrote:  This thread is pretty ridiculous....

It's a thread started by EE, isn't that a given?
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(12-28-2017 10:24 PM)BoutThemDawgs Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 09:47 PM)TTT Wrote:  This thread is pretty ridiculous....

It's a thread started by EE, isn't that a given?


clt heard a rumour that FSU was not eligible
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(12-28-2017 02:27 AM)Ourland Wrote:  USM looked very bad today.

FSU played below their talent all year. They, in spite of bad year were motivated to win. Talent won out. Loosing their starting QB set them back big time, but the frosh who is good has enough game time under his belt now, for the game to be slowing down and coming his way. They have the talent for a very quick turn around and back to winning 9 to 10 games a year.
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RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
Ouch, Kentucky and Tennessee had no where near the talent of FSU. FSU had serious talent on both sides of the ball. We got smoked! Glad we're playing Auburn next year. You have to play the best...

Our passing game all season long was anemic. Griggs and Howard don't have it. New talent at QB will be tested this Spring. Our defense was alright this year, but UNT exposed us. Our secondary, though graduating a ton, which could be a good thing, HAS to improve, or Fine/Guyton will torch us again.
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(12-28-2017 09:47 PM)TTT Wrote:  Sigh. This thread is pretty ridiculous....trying to find/grasp whatever solace there may be in that embarrassment of a performance. News flash: there isn't any. We disgraced ourselves and the conference. This was probably the worst FSU team in the past 40 years vs a very mediocre team from a very sub-par conference and we got destroyed. Why? Because of x's and o's AND jimmies and joes.

This was the result of a the lowest paid coach and lowest paid staff in CUSA with a bunch of 2/3-star players going up against a coach/staff getting paid 2-3 times the amount with 4/5 star players. We really shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.

You didnt do worse than FIU. They lost 28-3 to a sub par 6-6 temple team from a mediocre conference after beating an arguably better 5-7 tulane team earlier in the season from the same conference.

That being said USM should have been playing Appalachian State.
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(12-29-2017 01:28 PM)voss749 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 09:47 PM)TTT Wrote:  Sigh. This thread is pretty ridiculous....trying to find/grasp whatever solace there may be in that embarrassment of a performance. News flash: there isn't any. We disgraced ourselves and the conference. This was probably the worst FSU team in the past 40 years vs a very mediocre team from a very sub-par conference and we got destroyed. Why? Because of x's and o's AND jimmies and joes.

This was the result of a the lowest paid coach and lowest paid staff in CUSA with a bunch of 2/3-star players going up against a coach/staff getting paid 2-3 times the amount with 4/5 star players. We really shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.

You didnt do worse than FIU. They lost 28-3 to a sub par 6-6 temple team from a mediocre conference after beating an arguably better 5-7 tulane team earlier in the season from the same conference.

This is suppose to make him feel better? I hope you are not a therapist.

And y'all lost to Navy, member of said "mediocre conference" and a 6-6 Buffalo of the MAC. 01-wingedeagle
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RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 01:28 PM)voss749 Wrote:  That being said USM should have been playing Appalachian State.


They will be on 9/15/18
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(12-28-2017 02:57 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 09:38 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 09:16 PM)Tulanefan32 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:55 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  Two teams with national brands that brought a large number of out of town and out of state fans which would have been even better if not in mid day mid week in terrible weather. Only thing lacking was a decent showing by USM.

National brand? Lol
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I watched the game on TV and outside of the announcers talked nothing about USM. A couple Ito Smith is a nice players comments, but it was 3 hours of Taggart and what will FSU look like next year talk mixed in with where Derwin James and Josh Sweat would go in the draft. It's why I did not want FAU in that game.

So, you were afraid that FSU would have done FAU the same way they did USM then. Because, the game's narrative totally changes if it's competetive or becomesa 3 hour Lane Kiffin love fest if you start blowing them out.

No, as talented as FSU is if we beat them the ''they didn't want to be there or best players did not play'' excuse machine would roll.

I never get the obsession of G5 going out of the way to play a broken P5 school it does nothing for our teams trying to grow.
I wanted USF in Tampa or Boca. If we played USF with a great atmosphere in back and forth competitive game I think it does more for our leagues than
beating a 6-6 team with a Dline coach.

The UCF-USF game did more for the AAC than USF beating a 6-6 Tech team with a coach on the hot seat in a bowl in a city none of their fans wanted to go to.
If let's say FAU, FIU, USF, UCF were all playing each other every year and putting on great games, people would take notice and sense the excitement as opposed to jumping through hoops to play some middle of the road big 10 team.
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(12-29-2017 02:46 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  No, as talented as FSU is if we beat them the ''they didn't want to be there or best players did not play'' excuse machine would roll.

Kind of like the one that Toledo fans are using to justify their curb-stomping at the hands of Appy State?
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How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.
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(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.

I like our coach. Heck he was 8-4 heading into this bowl game in year 2. The QB position hurt us a lot this year. Not having a clear starter, and then one getting banged up. The Defense was good this year, despite the bad showing in the bowl game. Some definitely don’t agree with me, but I think he has done an OK job. But at USM, that’s not enough. He has to win championships soon, or he will be gone.
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(12-28-2017 10:24 PM)BoutThemDawgs Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 09:47 PM)TTT Wrote:  This thread is pretty ridiculous....

It's a thread started by EE, isn't that a given?

I started this thread because the Independence Bowl has been sagging in recent years and needed an uplifting matchup. They negotiated with USM and Fla State over a 2-3wk period and the deal was signed when everything fell in place. This game outdrew last year which was a matchup between Vanderbilt and NC State although the weather this year was terrible. Lots more tickets sold than fans who showed up. Shreveport got the influx of out of towners and out of staters, the bowl drew well, but proved to be a total on field disaster for USM. Call the thread ridiculous if you like.
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(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.

We were clearly playing the best team we faced all year. One who has playoff expectations every year. Just a few years removed from a natty.
If we brought Rockne back from the dead to coach us it wouldn't have made a difference.
JH wasnt my first choice but we are headed in a good direction.
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(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.


It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.
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(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.


It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.

Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.
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(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.


It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.

Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.

what are you trying to say? USM had good talent? FSU didnt have good talent? ULM has almost as much talent as FSU and more than USM? ULM is better than USM, but USM got lucky when they beat ULM? FSU really kind of sux, but USM is pathetic, despite not having FCS talent?

Please tell us what USM fans are being disingenuous about.
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(12-29-2017 03:53 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 02:46 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  No, as talented as FSU is if we beat them the ''they didn't want to be there or best players did not play'' excuse machine would roll.

Kind of like the one that Toledo fans are using to justify their curb-stomping at the hands of Appy State?

There are pro's a cons to both,but FAU got screwed having to play Akron.

Most FAU fans do not agree with me on this but honestly, I would have rather played the fun in state game then playing FSU when down.

Beating them would have been like hooking up with the girl you always liked after she gained 50lbs.
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(12-29-2017 07:53 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote:  How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.


It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.

Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.

what are you trying to say? USM had good talent? FSU didnt have good talent? ULM has almost as much talent as FSU and more than USM? ULM is better than USM, but USM got lucky when they beat ULM? FSU really kind of sux, but USM is pathetic, despite not having FCS talent?

Please tell us what USM fans are being disingenuous about.

...I'm saying it's very obvious that some USM fans are being very disingenuous about the talent difference between USM and FSU. If ULM can still be within 11 points of FSU late in the 3rd quarter of their game with FSU just prior to yours, then it's easy to argue that FSU's talent wasn't extremely better than USM's. Better, yes, most likely. But last time I looked, FSU still played with only 11 players, just like USM did. And USM has good players. USM just didn't show up for the bowl game.
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There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
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(12-29-2017 08:23 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 03:53 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 02:46 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  No, as talented as FSU is if we beat them the ''they didn't want to be there or best players did not play'' excuse machine would roll.

Kind of like the one that Toledo fans are using to justify their curb-stomping at the hands of Appy State?

There are pro's a cons to both,but FAU got screwed having to play Akron.

Most FAU fans do not agree with me on this but honestly, I would have rather played the fun in state game then playing FSU when down.

Beating them would have been like hooking up with the girl you always liked after she gained 50lbs.

You didn't want to play FSU because they were 6-6? Your FAU, not Alabama. You've got a short history dominated by loses. You should be so lucky to have a good shot at beating FSU no matter the circumstances.
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