RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 08:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:53 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote: How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.
It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.
Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.
what are you trying to say? USM had good talent? FSU didnt have good talent? ULM has almost as much talent as FSU and more than USM? ULM is better than USM, but USM got lucky when they beat ULM? FSU really kind of sux, but USM is pathetic, despite not having FCS talent?
Please tell us what USM fans are being disingenuous about.
...I'm saying it's very obvious that some USM fans are being very disingenuous about the talent difference between USM and FSU. If ULM can still be within 11 points of FSU late in the 3rd quarter of their game with FSU just prior to yours, then it's easy to argue that FSU's talent wasn't extremely better than USM's. Better, yes, most likely. But last time I looked, FSU still played with only 11 players, just like USM did. And USM has good players. USM just didn't show up for the bowl game.
please, someone tell me...is this guy really serious? what is wrong with you man? what did you make on the ACT?
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 08:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:53 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote: How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.
It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.
Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.
what are you trying to say? USM had good talent? FSU didnt have good talent? ULM has almost as much talent as FSU and more than USM? ULM is better than USM, but USM got lucky when they beat ULM? FSU really kind of sux, but USM is pathetic, despite not having FCS talent?
Please tell us what USM fans are being disingenuous about.
...I'm saying it's very obvious that some USM fans are being very disingenuous about the talent difference between USM and FSU. If ULM can still be within 11 points of FSU late in the 3rd quarter of their game with FSU just prior to yours, then it's easy to argue that FSU's talent wasn't extremely better than USM's. Better, yes, most likely. But last time I looked, FSU still played with only 11 players, just like USM did. And USM has good players. USM just didn't show up for the bowl game.
To me it seemed like FSU had quite on their coach during the season and that they were more motivated during the bowl game, for whatever reason. That combination with USM not bringing their A game led to the whipping we took.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 08:30 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:53 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:
(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote: How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.
It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.
Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.
what are you trying to say? USM had good talent? FSU didnt have good talent? ULM has almost as much talent as FSU and more than USM? ULM is better than USM, but USM got lucky when they beat ULM? FSU really kind of sux, but USM is pathetic, despite not having FCS talent?
Please tell us what USM fans are being disingenuous about.
...I'm saying it's very obvious that some USM fans are being very disingenuous about the talent difference between USM and FSU. If ULM can still be within 11 points of FSU late in the 3rd quarter of their game with FSU just prior to yours, then it's easy to argue that FSU's talent wasn't extremely better than USM's. Better, yes, most likely. But last time I looked, FSU still played with only 11 players, just like USM did. And USM has good players. USM just didn't show up for the bowl game.
It's not disingenuous. Maybe if we had a QB, we could have brought a few more drives in for 7, but even then, that doesn't change the fact that our Lines got manhandled, our QB had 1 second tops to make any play happen, our RBs were getting hit 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage, their WRs and DBs were a foot taller than ours, and their QB had all the time in the world to pick apart our zone. The line was the biggest issue that got exploited. Our schemes and gameplan were also a problem. We were outmanned on and off the field. Only place we won was in the stands, which while it doesn't change the game score, hopefully some recruits saw that we travel well and support our program.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 07:01 PM)HogDawg Wrote:
(12-29-2017 06:50 PM)EagNBran Wrote:
(12-29-2017 04:33 PM)Ourland Wrote: How disappointed are Southern Miss fans with the head coach? That was a bad performance. The offense looked bad and the defense ran out of gas. It looks like to me that the team is playing under it's potential.
It looked bad because we were completely outmatched. FSU isn't a typical 6-6 ACC team. They were expected to be in the playoffs, but had an injury that caused problems. They've put things together the second half of the year to get back to 6-6 and ran over us as they should have. It's not a matter that we looked bad. It's that the talent gap was that large.
Geez. Some of you USM guys are acting like your had FCS talent out there wearing the the back and gold. I think you're being a little disingenuous. This was the same 6-6 FSU team that only led ULM 21-10 late in the 3rd Qtr in its previous game only 3 weeks prior on 12/2. FSU wasn't that good.
One word: motivation
FSU and their gang of 4/5 stars had nearly a month (not one week like with ULM) to prepare for the chance to continue a 41 year streak of winning seasons vs an average team from a below average conference. They weren't going to be the class who broke the streak so they came out highly motivated and dominated us. I thought we had a chance but I was wrong. Considering what was as stake, I think FSU was winning their bowl game regardless of who their opponent was (aside from maybe 3-4 teams).
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2017 10:31 PM by TTT.)
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-27-2017 09:16 PM)Tulanefan32 Wrote:
(12-27-2017 08:55 PM)eager eagle Wrote: Two teams with national brands that brought a large number of out of town and out of state fans which would have been even better if not in mid day mid week in terrible weather. Only thing lacking was a decent showing by USM.
National brand? Lol
Hey Toolamer, all that needs to be said to a loser like you....
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
I'd kill to be where Tulane is now. In a good conference with a good coach who has them improving. As opposed to Bower 2.0 who won't ever get USM over 8 wins. Past records mean nothing.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 09:32 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
So few? I think we have too many
I’ve always wondered how Ole Miss has any Black players. With thier history and thier “Rebel” mascot, I would think they players would choose the other Mississippi schools.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-30-2017 05:58 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote: I'd kill to be where Tulane is now. In a good conference with a good coach who has them improving. As opposed to Bower 2.0 who won't ever get USM over 8 wins. Past records mean nothing.
Well I am sure the Tulane team would welcome a new supporter. By the way it has been 16 years since Tulane won 8 games.
(This post was last modified: 12-30-2017 10:27 PM by usmbacker.)
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-30-2017 08:55 PM)Seminowl Wrote:
(12-29-2017 09:32 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
So few? I think we have too many
I’ve always wondered how Ole Miss has any Black players. With thier history and thier “Rebel” mascot, I would think they players would choose the other Mississippi schools.
Minimum of 1,000 for a visit and 2 white girls in every room. Thats how.
om used to brag of redshirting Miss America's. Now daddys sweetheart is used to lure recruits.
During the Nutt lawsuit we heard of a former staffer that was leaning to file suit against Freeze for requiring her to transport "escorts" for players.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
Gee, so why does U of Alabama, or LSU, or Mississippi State have so many African-Amuricans on their rosters?
OF COURSE it IS because of the large African-Amurican population.....and, as it has been with U.S. minorities in the past.....such as the Irish, and then the Italians.....sports, music and "extracurricular activities" have traditionally been a way out, and some of the few ways to access wealth.
(This post was last modified: 12-31-2017 08:27 PM by eaglebeaver.)
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-31-2017 08:26 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
Gee, so why does U of Alabama, or LSU, or Mississippi State have so many African-Amuricans on their rosters?
OF COURSE it IS because of the large African-Amurican population.....and, as it has been with U.S. minorities in the past.....such as the Irish, and then the Italians.....sports, music and "extracurricular activities" have traditionally been a way out, and some of the few ways to access wealth.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-30-2017 10:16 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-30-2017 08:55 PM)Seminowl Wrote:
(12-29-2017 09:32 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
So few? I think we have too many
I’ve always wondered how Ole Miss has any Black players. With thier history and thier “Rebel” mascot, I would think they players would choose the other Mississippi schools.
Minimum of 1,000 for a visit and 2 white girls in every room. Thats how.
om used to brag of redshirting Miss America's. Now daddys sweetheart is used to lure recruits.
During the Nutt lawsuit we heard of a former staffer that was leaning to file suit against Freeze for requiring her to transport "escorts" for players.
I've always heard that's how Alabama got Julio Jones to commit. Got dropped off at his room and two white girls were waiting inside for him.
RE: The Independence Bowl got most of what they wanted
(12-31-2017 11:45 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:
(12-30-2017 10:16 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-30-2017 08:55 PM)Seminowl Wrote:
(12-29-2017 09:32 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(12-29-2017 08:35 PM)Ourland Wrote: There's a real talent gap between the two teams, but it isn't enormous. Someone tell me why USM has so few white players. Is that reflection of the demographics of the state? Are all the players from Mississippi? It doesn't matter, but I am curious. I've always noticed that through the years, and I assume it's due to the state having a large African American population.
So few? I think we have too many
I’ve always wondered how Ole Miss has any Black players. With thier history and thier “Rebel” mascot, I would think they players would choose the other Mississippi schools.
Minimum of 1,000 for a visit and 2 white girls in every room. Thats how.
om used to brag of redshirting Miss America's. Now daddys sweetheart is used to lure recruits.
During the Nutt lawsuit we heard of a former staffer that was leaning to file suit against Freeze for requiring her to transport "escorts" for players.
I've always heard that's how Alabama got Julio Jones to commit. Got dropped off at his room and two white girls were waiting inside for him.