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RE: Frazier?
(12-28-2017 12:09 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:08 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

Mr finance took one thing I said and turned it into a million posts. Sorry. For some reason he was dead set on trying to tell me that two years of money is more than one. Lol.

Anywho, firing carey would be very stupid for many reasons. Including and now especially because there is only one year left on his deal lol. I made a bunch of other points but mr finance was having none of it.

Your other points were irrevelant in regards to the 1 vs 2 year firing discussion.

You were deflecting by bringing up points not relevant to the topic. The lemonade stand thing is really when you jumped the shark.

Yeah, you should get going on that if you’re going to convince Frazier to fire a coach with one year left on his deal. It’s the fiscally responsible thing to do. Try Country Time lemonade, it’s probably the most cost effective.
12-28-2017 12:11 PM
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(12-28-2017 12:10 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:03 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

It isn't the most important thing on the message board. So you're wrong. 02-13-banana

We should go back and forth about 20 times in a importance debate that is really opinion based and therefore cant be proven wrong or right. I will employ circular logic and eventually trap you so you actually make yourself wrong.

I’d argue that his own logic trapped himself. I can’t take credit for that as much as I would like to.
12-28-2017 12:11 PM
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(12-28-2017 12:11 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:10 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:03 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

It isn't the most important thing on the message board. So you're wrong. 02-13-banana

We should go back and forth about 20 times in a importance debate that is really opinion based and therefore cant be proven wrong or right. I will employ circular logic and eventually trap you so you actually make yourself wrong.

I’d argue that his own logic trapped himself. I can’t take credit for that as much as I would like to.

You literally have no idea what you are saying lol.
12-28-2017 12:12 PM
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(12-28-2017 12:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:09 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:08 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

Mr finance took one thing I said and turned it into a million posts. Sorry. For some reason he was dead set on trying to tell me that two years of money is more than one. Lol.

Anywho, firing carey would be very stupid for many reasons. Including and now especially because there is only one year left on his deal lol. I made a bunch of other points but mr finance was having none of it.

Your other points were irrevelant in regards to the 1 vs 2 year firing discussion.

You were deflecting by bringing up points not relevant to the topic. The lemonade stand thing is really when you jumped the shark.

Yeah, you should get going on that if you’re going to convince Frazier to fire a coach with one year left on his deal. It’s the fiscally responsible thing to do. Try Country Time lemonade, it’s probably the most cost effective.

I’ve never said anything about some kind of agenda I had in trying to convince Frazier to fire Carey. You’re deflecting again.
12-28-2017 12:14 PM
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I get the Carey hate. I want him gone too. At the very least a new offensive coordinator who gives the offense an entire overhaul. The west is about to get very top heavy with Toledo and WMU. But it will suck if you try to discuss individual players or the schedule or just about anything, and you know it will get hijacked by Carey haters. Every topic doesn't have to do that. the off-season is long enougj
12-28-2017 12:15 PM
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(12-28-2017 12:14 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:09 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:08 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

Mr finance took one thing I said and turned it into a million posts. Sorry. For some reason he was dead set on trying to tell me that two years of money is more than one. Lol.

Anywho, firing carey would be very stupid for many reasons. Including and now especially because there is only one year left on his deal lol. I made a bunch of other points but mr finance was having none of it.

Your other points were irrevelant in regards to the 1 vs 2 year firing discussion.

You were deflecting by bringing up points not relevant to the topic. The lemonade stand thing is really when you jumped the shark.

Yeah, you should get going on that if you’re going to convince Frazier to fire a coach with one year left on his deal. It’s the fiscally responsible thing to do. Try Country Time lemonade, it’s probably the most cost effective.

I’ve never said anything about some kind of agenda I had in trying to convince Frazier to fire Carey. You’re deflecting again.

Hahaha this is incredible.
12-28-2017 12:15 PM
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(12-28-2017 12:15 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:14 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:11 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:09 PM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:08 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Mr finance took one thing I said and turned it into a million posts. Sorry. For some reason he was dead set on trying to tell me that two years of money is more than one. Lol.

Anywho, firing carey would be very stupid for many reasons. Including and now especially because there is only one year left on his deal lol. I made a bunch of other points but mr finance was having none of it.

Your other points were irrevelant in regards to the 1 vs 2 year firing discussion.

You were deflecting by bringing up points not relevant to the topic. The lemonade stand thing is really when you jumped the shark.

Yeah, you should get going on that if you’re going to convince Frazier to fire a coach with one year left on his deal. It’s the fiscally responsible thing to do. Try Country Time lemonade, it’s probably the most cost effective.

I’ve never said anything about some kind of agenda I had in trying to convince Frazier to fire Carey. You’re deflecting again.

Hahaha this is incredible.

The final frontier.

Responding without talking about the topic at hand. He’s out of rebuttals folks. Have the last word champ, you’ll feel like a real winner.

Enjoy your day.
12-28-2017 12:17 PM
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(12-28-2017 11:16 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:13 AM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:07 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:04 AM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 10:57 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Why on earth would you waste the money to fire carey right now lol, are you insane? Firing Carey costs money. Did you not know that? And it’s more money than we can afford to throw away right now.

Also, coming off maybe the best on paper recruiting class we’ve had in years? It would make no sense at all. None. im sorry he frustrates you, and I get it, so if you are so inclined, feel free to pay his buyout after we fire him.

In regards to my post on Carey having less time on his contract than you originally thought, you still haven’t given an answer to that question. You’re just saying the same thing over and over again.

So I’ll ask again...

What makes it “even more stupid” to fire him now than after the 2019 season after you found out he had less time on his contract than you originally thought?

Ummmm b/c he still has one more year on his deal then. What is so hard to grasp?

You said to reasses after the 2019 season. He’s not signed through the 2019 season. Based on that comment you obviously thought he was under contract for at least 2 more football seasons.

I pointed out that he’s under contract for only one more football season and then you said it would be “even more stupid” to fire him once you gained the correct information, even though with less time on the contract it would cost less money to eat for a buyout.

So you’ve yet to explain why it is dumber to fire someone with less time on a contract in comparison to someone with more time especially since you’ve been harping on money since the beginning. You contradicted yourself.

Hahahaha you still think paying money to fire a coach that wins more than he loses at a G5 school is smart. You need to deal with your own issues then. Unless you have the money to pay him to be fired for literally no reason other than you don’t like his scheming and big game coaching. I’m here to tell you, there are no big games in the G5. None. So yes, firing him with just one year left would be even more stupid, much more stupid.

Keeping him and killing next year's recruiting class when he's likely to not get extended and be let go is also not smart.

He's 21-17 in the last three seasons, he's barely winning more vs. losing.
12-28-2017 04:33 PM
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(12-28-2017 04:33 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:16 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:13 AM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:07 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:04 AM)PrideinthePack2 Wrote:  In regards to my post on Carey having less time on his contract than you originally thought, you still haven’t given an answer to that question. You’re just saying the same thing over and over again.

So I’ll ask again...

What makes it “even more stupid” to fire him now than after the 2019 season after you found out he had less time on his contract than you originally thought?

Ummmm b/c he still has one more year on his deal then. What is so hard to grasp?

You said to reasses after the 2019 season. He’s not signed through the 2019 season. Based on that comment you obviously thought he was under contract for at least 2 more football seasons.

I pointed out that he’s under contract for only one more football season and then you said it would be “even more stupid” to fire him once you gained the correct information, even though with less time on the contract it would cost less money to eat for a buyout.

So you’ve yet to explain why it is dumber to fire someone with less time on a contract in comparison to someone with more time especially since you’ve been harping on money since the beginning. You contradicted yourself.

Hahahaha you still think paying money to fire a coach that wins more than he loses at a G5 school is smart. You need to deal with your own issues then. Unless you have the money to pay him to be fired for literally no reason other than you don’t like his scheming and big game coaching. I’m here to tell you, there are no big games in the G5. None. So yes, firing him with just one year left would be even more stupid, much more stupid.

Keeping him and killing next year's recruiting class when he's likely to not get extended and be let go is also not smart.

He's 21-17 in the last three seasons, he's barely winning more vs. losing.

Does anyone know the bowl win bonus the coaching staff gets? I think they get a bonus if they make a bowl and bonus if they win. Maybe Carey and staff are not incentivized enough to win and are happy just to make one.
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(12-28-2017 04:47 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Maybe Carey and staff are not incentivized enough to win and are happy just to make one.

If this were true, that's another reason not to give him another extension, and more importantly, another reason a change is in order.
12-28-2017 06:31 PM
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STF needs to be held accountable. Don't let his odd colored suits fool you. He's as big a bozo as RC.
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(12-28-2017 12:11 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:08 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 12:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Message boards.....where the most important thing in life is proving a total stranger wrong.

Mr finance took one thing I said and turned it into a million posts. Sorry. For some reason he was dead set on trying to tell me that two years of money is more than one. Lol.

Anywho, firing carey would be very stupid for many reasons. Including and now especially because there is only one year left on his deal lol. I made a bunch of other points but mr finance was having none of it.

One thing about it though, and somebody mentioned it above, that you don't want a lame duck coach which is why they are generally extended ahead of time. I just hope we don't extend him to avoid that....

Good post, 007, which is why I will become increasingly concerned if time passes and we don't see the notice that Carey has been let go.

He will not be lame duck - you are correct. NIU will either extend him or release him. Nothing will happen until after the holiday break, but look for a decision by the end of January.
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