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AAC expansion candidates?
Since we are stuck in purgatory for at least 5 years who would you like for AAC expansion?

My FB only favorites would be East - Army West - BYU

Both are indy.

The one issue with Army is the Navy game. Solution:

1. They never play a REGULAR conference game.
2. If Army is the East Champ and Navy the West Champ the regularly scheduled Army-Navy year end also would be the AAC Championship Game.

In the East UMass could be considered as an all sport.

Other possible's would involve raiding MW or CUSA:

Would love Boise.
 
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RE: AAC expansion candidates?
Ah yes, another conference realignment thread.

Hard pass on the UMass. How about this:

Welcome to the party
BYU (football only)
Army (football only)
Colorado State

Gone like a fart in the wind
ECU
Tulsa
Tulane

Once Cincinnati rejoins the P5, replace us with Marshall, OU, or Toledo.
 
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I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.
 
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RE: AAC expansion candidates?
The tops would be BYU, Army, and Boise, but I think there are too may logistical problems to make any of them happen.

Wouldnt mind cutting out ECU and maybe Tulsa.

More realistic adds would be WKU and Marshall. Not sure we are getting a ton of value added as far a TV viewership and money, but their FB and BB teams are always competitive.

Another wildcard team, Arkansas State.
 
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RE: AAC expansion candidates?
(12-24-2017 11:21 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  Ah yes, another conference realignment thread.

Hard pass on the UMass. How about this:

Welcome to the party
BYU (football only)
Army (football only)
Colorado State

Gone like a fart in the wind
ECU
Tulsa
Tulane

Once Cincinnati rejoins the P5, replace us with Marshall, OU, or Toledo.

I am fine keeping Tulane. They have historically been competetive somewhat, but do bring alot of prestige as an Acedemic institution. ECU and Tulsa can bite the dust.
 
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RE: AAC expansion candidates?
If the American really wants to be something more than just a tweener league the next expansion probably has be national.

Army (football only)
SDSU
Colorado State
Boise State
BYU
UNLV
Gonzaga (All sports but football)

Football East: Army, Navy, Cincinnati, UConn, Temple, ECU, USF, UCF, Memphis
Football West: Houston, SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, SDSU, Boise State, Colorado State, BYU, UNLV
Ten conference games: 7 division, 2 crossover

Basketball East: Cincinnati, UConn, Temple, ECU, UCF, USF
Basketball Central: Memphis, Tulsa, Tulane, Houston, Wichita State, SMU
Basketball West: BYU, Gonzaga, SDSU, UNLV, Colorada State, Boise State
20 conference games, 8 division games, 12 crossover.
 
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(12-24-2017 11:27 AM)jarr Wrote:  The tops would be BYU, Army, and Boise, but I think there are too may logistical problems to make any of them happen.

Wouldnt mind cutting out ECU and maybe Tulsa.

More realistic adds would be WKU and Marshall. Not sure we are getting a ton of value added as far a TV viewership and money, but their FB and BB teams are always competitive.

Another wildcard team, Arkansas State.

TV matters and WKU and Marshall add little. Arkansas State adds nothing.

National cache would come from Boise, Army, BYU.
 
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(12-24-2017 12:10 PM)doss2 Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 11:27 AM)jarr Wrote:  The tops would be BYU, Army, and Boise, but I think there are too may logistical problems to make any of them happen.

Wouldnt mind cutting out ECU and maybe Tulsa.

More realistic adds would be WKU and Marshall. Not sure we are getting a ton of value added as far a TV viewership and money, but their FB and BB teams are always competitive.

Another wildcard team, Arkansas State.

TV matters and WKU and Marshall add little. Arkansas State adds nothing.

National cache would come from Boise, Army, BYU.

Agree with Doss. If there is going to be any adds, it will only be teams that increase revenue.
 
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(12-24-2017 10:42 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Since we are stuck in purgatory for at least 5 years who would you like for AAC expansion?

My FB only favorites would be East - Army West - BYU

Both are indy.

The one issue with Army is the Navy game. Solution:

1. They never play a REGULAR conference game.
2. If Army is the East Champ and Navy the West Champ the regularly scheduled Army-Navy year end also would be the AAC Championship Game.

In the East UMass could be considered as an all sport.

Other possible's would involve raiding MW or CUSA:

Would love Boise.

Mountain Western time zone is crazy, won't happen. Maybe Army and Rice. Rice was awful this year.
 
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Rice are you serious. Adds no TV area.
 
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RE: AAC expansion candidates?
Oberlin (last Ohio team to beat O$U.)

Mount Union (lots of national championships)

Grand Valley State (BK national championship)

West Liberty University (dad's alma mater, national NAIA champs in football, national runner up in D-II hoops)

Easy road trips. TV interest is moot since only local fans care about AAC. Built in buy games for Fick and Mick. Won't hurt or help rankings - just like Wichita.
 
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Expansion?

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(12-24-2017 11:24 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.

After the way we finished the season, any talk by UC fans of "culling the unworthy" should be reserved for a later time.
 
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(12-24-2017 02:42 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 11:24 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.

After the way we finished the season, any talk by UC fans of "culling the unworthy" should be reserved for a later time.

We got Tubervilled. You think Texas should be kicked out of the Big 12 for a few terrible years? We're arguably the biggest overall sports and academics brand in the AAC. There's a reason we are considered a/the top P5 expansion candidate in the G5.
 
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(12-24-2017 02:42 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 11:24 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.

After the way we finished the season, any talk by UC fans of "culling the unworthy" should be reserved for a later time.

Additionally, we have shown a commitment to our athletics that ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane just haven't. Throwing us in with them due to a few years in 1 sport is silly... Come on, now. 04-cheers
 
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I am greatly in favor of AAC expansion as soon as we worm our way into a better conference ourselves.
 
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(12-24-2017 03:04 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I am greatly in favor of AAC expansion as soon as we worm our way into a better conference ourselves.

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(12-24-2017 02:45 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 02:42 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 11:24 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.

After the way we finished the season, any talk by UC fans of "culling the unworthy" should be reserved for a later time.

We got Tubervilled. You think Texas should be kicked out of the Big 12 for a few terrible years? We're arguably the biggest overall sports and academics brand in the AAC. There's a reason we are considered a/the top P5 expansion candidate in the G5.

All I'm saying is that it sounds tone deaf to talk about kicking out other schools from the conference when our record is as bad or worse as theirs. We're in no position to look down our noses at anyone right about now.
 
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(12-24-2017 05:15 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 02:45 PM)TubaCat Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 02:42 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(12-24-2017 11:24 AM)TubaCat Wrote:  I don't think adding programs would be wise without first culling the unworthy.

After the way we finished the season, any talk by UC fans of "culling the unworthy" should be reserved for a later time.

We got Tubervilled. You think Texas should be kicked out of the Big 12 for a few terrible years? We're arguably the biggest overall sports and academics brand in the AAC. There's a reason we are considered a/the top P5 expansion candidate in the G5.

All I'm saying is that it sounds tone deaf to talk about kicking out other schools from the conference when our record is as bad or worse as theirs. We're in no position to look down our noses at anyone right about now.

I don't think we're disagreeing, as much as looking at conference value in different ways. If our value were restricted to football performance, I would agree with you.
 
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FWIW, the American football winning percentage since its inception...

Navy 18-6 (.750) 3 Seasons
UCF 28-13 (.683)
Houston 27-13 (.675)
Memphis 25-16 (.610)
USF 24-16 (.600)
Temple 23-17 (.575)
Cincinnati 20-20 (.500)
Tulsa 12-20 (.375) 4 Seasons
ECU 11-21 (.344) 4 Seasons
SMU 13-27 (.325)
UConn 11-29 (.275)
Tulane 7-25 (.219) 4 Seasons
 
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