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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 04:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
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(12-25-2017 04:10 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:36 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  We should have hired kiffin, applewhite should never have even gotten an interview.


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Lame... How do you not give someone the opportunity to move up.

You feel ready and confident you the right man for the job... Wouldn't you want the chance to run your own ship?!? My


Ok.... so what your saying is we should give some one the job regardless of ability to actually coach simply because they deserve it? Because clearly kiffin is a better coach than applewhite, so thats the only way i can explain your logic.

As far as the second party, what does applewhites thoughts on his coaching ability have to do with anything. I don’t give a crap what a coach thinks, it doesn’t change he fact he cant coach.


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LOL... I never said he deserved it... No one ever knows who's going to pan out until he/she is given the opportunity.


But it alot people knew based on how he preformed as OC that is was not going to turn out well. That should have been a big clue, and kiffin doing well as Alabamas OC and being hungry to coach again should have been another big clue that he was the one we should have gone with.


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You are benefiting from hindsight bias though. Nobody could have predicted that Lane was going to have the first year he did.
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Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 05:40 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:38 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:34 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:14 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:10 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Lame... How do you not give someone the opportunity to move up.

You feel ready and confident you the right man for the job... Wouldn't you want the chance to run your own ship?!? My


Ok.... so what your saying is we should give some one the job regardless of ability to actually coach simply because they deserve it? Because clearly kiffin is a better coach than applewhite, so thats the only way i can explain your logic.

As far as the second party, what does applewhites thoughts on his coaching ability have to do with anything. I don’t give a crap what a coach thinks, it doesn’t change he fact he cant coach.


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LOL... I never said he deserved it... No one ever knows who's going to pan out until he/she is given the opportunity.


But it alot people knew based on how he preformed as OC that is was not going to turn out well. That should have been a big clue, and kiffin doing well as Alabamas OC and being hungry to coach again should have been another big clue that he was the one we should have gone with.


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You are benefiting from hindsight bias though. Nobody could have predicted that Lane was going to have the first year he did.


But everyone could have predicted it would be better than applewhites. It didn’t take a genius to know that applewhite was not on the same level as kiffin.


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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 02:11 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote:  This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.

You get worked by Army, and you show up to talk smack because a mediocre Coog team got beat by a team that kicked your butt? Seriously?

At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 05:47 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 02:11 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote:  This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.

You get worked by Army, and you show up to talk smack because a mediocre Coog team got beat by a team that kicked your butt? Seriously?

At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.

You are right. At the end of the day, the games are played and they matter. The MW and AAC are 2-2 against each other this year and are close to .500 since the AACs inception. Two good G5 conferences. Will be interesting to see if Fresno tops the Top 25 in a few weeks. They need a lot of help. USF and UCF are locks IMO.
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 07:25 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 05:47 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 02:11 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote:  This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.

You get worked by Army, and you show up to talk smack because a mediocre Coog team got beat by a team that kicked your butt? Seriously?

At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.

You are right. At the end of the day, the games are played and they matter. The MW and AAC are 2-2 against each other this year and are close to .500 since the AACs inception. Two good G5 conferences. Will be interesting to see if Fresno tops the Top 25 in a few weeks. They need a lot of help. USF and UCF are locks IMO.
Fresnos win means they are slightly better than Tulane. Lol
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 05:31 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 04:46 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:23 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 01:29 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 12:05 PM)fanhood Wrote:  People get provoked when I simply post stats, and zero commentary.

Forgive me if I also quote or paraphrase others. Sorry that that is so inflammatory.

It’s the constant attack on the league that is old from you and others. Many of us realize this conference is the last life our schools have. You don’t see is going to the Mwc constantly attacking the conference or the schools in it. It’s weite the obsession you have for the AAC. Whatever it is , how about chilling a bit with it. Merry Christmas by the way.

The moment people stop going bat **** crazy when simple statistics are posted, is the moment there will be nothing left to laugh and poke fun at.

if i came to the sdsu forum and posted stats like:

ranking most p5 win the last 10 years by a g5
most top 25 wins by a g5
national ap program ranking (based around the ap poll)
teams who have played in major bowls
most draft picks the last 2 years

it is clearly just naming stats but there is also a clearly malicious purpose to it

Oh I see, so people are so small that they cannot objectively look at stats, because they dislike the writer, poster, journalist, politician, researcher, etc? That's not an indictment on me, it's indictment on those individuals. Kind of my point.

What point is that? That the new rules don't apply to you? That you're above such things?
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 07:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 07:25 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 05:47 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 02:11 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  You get worked by Army, and you show up to talk smack because a mediocre Coog team got beat by a team that kicked your butt? Seriously?

At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.

You are right. At the end of the day, the games are played and they matter. The MW and AAC are 2-2 against each other this year and are close to .500 since the AACs inception. Two good G5 conferences. Will be interesting to see if Fresno tops the Top 25 in a few weeks. They need a lot of help. USF and UCF are locks IMO.
Fresnos win means they are slightly better than Tulane. Lol

This is an excellent point actually... We lost to Tulane so in reality Tulane will go toe to toe with Fresno or vise versa. Hehe
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 09:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 07:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 07:25 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 05:47 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.

You are right. At the end of the day, the games are played and they matter. The MW and AAC are 2-2 against each other this year and are close to .500 since the AACs inception. Two good G5 conferences. Will be interesting to see if Fresno tops the Top 25 in a few weeks. They need a lot of help. USF and UCF are locks IMO.
Fresnos win means they are slightly better than Tulane. Lol

This is an excellent point actually... We lost to Tulane so in reality Tulane will go toe to toe with Fresno or vise versa. Hehe

In conference destruction? I guess Fresno turning down an AAC invite is akin to Tulane accepting one so you may be right lol.
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RE: Houston vs Fresno State (Hawaii Bowl) GameThread
(12-25-2017 07:25 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 05:47 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 03:21 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 02:11 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(12-25-2017 08:39 AM)fanhood Wrote:  This game is further proof that the Hawaii Bowl was Fresno's Super Bowl, and that Houston players were underwhelmed, as they only get hyped for NY6 Bowls.

You get worked by Army, and you show up to talk smack because a mediocre Coog team got beat by a team that kicked your butt? Seriously?

At first I felt the same way. Then I realized that Army is the 2016 AAC Champs, which of course makes them P6, so it's a badge of honor, right?
This typifies a G4 living in the past whereas a P6 mindset is about today, and more importantly the future!

In 2016, Army WAS a team that could make a humorous purative claim on AAC honors: beat both CCG participants. It's instructive though to note fanhood's "is"
In 2017, Army lost to an AAC team that was 3-5 in conference and escaped from two AAC teams 4-4 in conference on missed field goals. Those are three teams at #5-8 in the AAC, and Army is inches from 0-3 against them. Meanwhile, the woops ran roughshod (440 yards on the ground, Rocky Long?!?) over a mwc contender. Top of the mwc equal to or less than AAC middle of the pack? Sounds about right. Thank you Army and transitive property for offering ANOTHER mathematical proof that AAC is better than mwc and other G4s top to bottom, year after year.

You are right. At the end of the day, the games are played and they matter. The MW and AAC are 2-2 against each other this year and are close to .500 since the AACs inception. Two good G5 conferences. Will be interesting to see if Fresno tops the Top 25 in a few weeks. They need a lot of help. USF and UCF are locks IMO.

Why are you here trying to convince us? Go tell the world about P7! 03-lmfao
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