(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry! And those numbers include McDuffie.

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

(12-22-2017 10:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Rutgers lost -

Already posted in the Church League thread in the smack forum.

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

(12-22-2017 11:25 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

Depends on how you define starter.. are you talking starter for THIS game or people who have started the majority of the games. There is a lot of variance there.

This is a dumb argument overall anyways as neither side can prove anything. Both could be right or wrong.. we will literally never know. So try not to get so upset over it

(12-22-2017 11:25 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

That’s my point. The stats of the guy who “didn’t start” is normally a starter. Because they are INTERCHANGEABLE.

Two of our five starters shouldn’t ever even touch the ball on offense due to how incompetent they are on that side of the ball. You really don’t think we can’t replace that without some massive drop off? If someone can catch a pass they’re an improvement over the starters on the offensive side. Our top 5 are not world beaters. Our top 2 are world beaters. The rest are pieces of a puzzle.

(12-22-2017 11:36 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:25 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

That’s my point. The stats of the guy who “didn’t start” is normally a starter. Because they are INTERCHANGEABLE.

Two of our five starters shouldn’t ever even touch the ball on offense due to how incompetent they are on that side of the ball. You really don’t think we can’t replace that without some massive drop off? If someone can catch a pass they’re an improvement over the starters on the offensive side. Our top 5 are not world beaters. Our top 2 are world beaters. The rest are pieces of a puzzle.

But yet your second five, whom ever they are, can beat a majority of the AAC. Makes sense now.

(12-22-2017 11:43 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:36 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:25 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:12 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  Your bench tonight scored 25 points on 5-of-16 shooting with 3 assists and 6 turnovers against FGCU. But they are interchangeable with your starters and they could be the sixth best team in the AAC. This is gold, Jerry!

I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

That’s my point. The stats of the guy who “didn’t start” is normally a starter. Because they are INTERCHANGEABLE.

Two of our five starters shouldn’t ever even touch the ball on offense due to how incompetent they are on that side of the ball. You really don’t think we can’t replace that without some massive drop off? If someone can catch a pass they’re an improvement over the starters on the offensive side. Our top 5 are not world beaters. Our top 2 are world beaters. The rest are pieces of a puzzle.

But yet your second five, whom ever they are, can beat a majority of the AAC. Makes sense now.

Correct. Because our second five is better than our first five (minus Shamet) on a lot of nights.

(12-22-2017 11:48 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:43 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:36 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:25 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:20 PM)AndShock Wrote:  I assume you’re counting Shaq Morris in those stats? Who went 0/5 with a turnover? Who is averaging the second most points and third most rebounds on the team? Who has STARTED 75% of our games? Yes, one of our STARTERS had one of the worst games on the team tonight. Are you saying our STARTERS wouldn’t finish top half in the AAC now?

Seriously? I went to stats of the guys who didn’t start aka the second team. And you translate that to me saying your starters wouldn’t finish in the top half of the AAC. You guys are unbelievable.

That’s my point. The stats of the guy who “didn’t start” is normally a starter. Because they are INTERCHANGEABLE.

Two of our five starters shouldn’t ever even touch the ball on offense due to how incompetent they are on that side of the ball. You really don’t think we can’t replace that without some massive drop off? If someone can catch a pass they’re an improvement over the starters on the offensive side. Our top 5 are not world beaters. Our top 2 are world beaters. The rest are pieces of a puzzle.

But yet your second five, whom ever they are, can beat a majority of the AAC. Makes sense now.

Correct. Because our second five is better than our first five (minus Shamet) on a lot of nights.

lol okay. I think I’ll go back and check the stats of your starters vs. the second team and see the results.

(12-22-2017 09:51 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:46 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:42 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:31 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 09:26 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  What I can’t get past is the d-wad who came on here claiming WSU second five could win the AAC. I almost want to go back and find who that was because you deserved zero credibility.

I have said the second five would place in the top half. And I still believe that to be true.

Are you kidding me?? Let’s assume Cincy, SMU, Houston, WSU and USF are the top 5. You think WSU’s second team would be better than Temple, UConn and Memphis? Dear lord, man. What world do you live in, because it isn’t reality.

I don't think either of you are in reality. WSUs second 5 wouldn't finish top 5 ... And WSU won't finish forth like you think

Maybe you’re watching different WSU games than I am. No way you’re better than Cincy. I don’t think you’re better than us. Houston is a toss up, and I think UCF and Temple can beat you.

I had to attend a couple parties tonight so I was unable to go to the game. Then I come back to this? Moody, you on magic mushrooms or something? LMFAO! We get one of our star players back after months of inactivity, coach is obviously doing some final tweaking of lineups before the start of conference play, Shaq was ill with a migraine, and the team had already transported mentally to their respective holiday destinations.

I don't know WTF some of you guys are smoking but... the Shockers are for real and have been for years now. We aren't #11 with TWO losses for no reason. It's almost as if some of you think we're this unproven manufactured brand or something. I guess it's just wishful thinking. Anything other than a first place finish in this conference will be a major national disappointment and shock.

Whatever you think you're seeing right now you can just forget about it. Every team has ups and downs (especially in the preseason). I can guarantee you we will be locked in for the start of conference play fighting tooth and nail for every victory. Some victories will be easy, some will be tough, and some will never come. But talking as if we're not still the preseason favorite is borderline lunacy.

Get your **** together people. Don't blow all your reputation away before the season even starts. Wait for the team you envy to melt down, don't predict it before it happens - especially when they're #11 in the country. Use some common sense.


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A lot of teams have two losses #SmuHoustoncincinnati. It will be interesting but your not a shoe in to win the conference.

(12-23-2017 02:46 AM)coogdiehard Wrote:  A lot of teams have two losses #SmuHoustoncincinnati. It will be interesting but your not a shoe in to win the conference.

But not a lot of teams have lost to Drexel.

(12-23-2017 03:05 AM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 02:46 AM)coogdiehard Wrote:  A lot of teams have two losses #SmuHoustoncincinnati. It will be interesting but your not a shoe in to win the conference.

But not a lot of teams have lost to Drexel.

We were terrible that game and pretty lack luster throughout the whole tournament, but I think part of that can be attributed to having 8 newcomers and only playing one game before the tournament. Since the start of December this team has looked much better and will continue to round into form during conference play. Nobody's going through conference unscathed this year, too many good teams and no truly great teams. Personally I don't care how we finish in league play as long as we do well enough to make it as an at large.

(12-22-2017 11:06 PM)AndShock Wrote:  

(12-22-2017 11:03 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  WSU should just play their AAC dominating subs exclusively since the starters can not put away the likes of SD St, Ark St, and FGCU.

I know this was a shot but you’re actually the closest to getting the point out of anyone so far. Our subs are basically interchangeable with our starters, minus Landry Shamet and Markis McDuffie.

Back when Memphis was relevant, Tiger fans (most with tongue firmly in cheek) use to discuss that our second team would win the diluted CUSA. It was fun and harmless trolling, but I think you really mean that your second unit alone would beat a BJ Taylor lead UCF team.