247sports has a list of the 250 highest ranked recruits signed by UT, all-time (well, as far back as 2005ish). Bradley is 4th in that list. Thought it would be interesting to look at the top 25 and see how they have panned out - or not.

Here's the list:
https://247sports.com/college/toledo/Spo...meRecruits

1. James Green, WR (Role player at UT)
2. Corey Jones, ATH (Lots of WR/PR/KR records at UT)
3. Rodney Adams, WR (Transferred after 1 year. Now in the NFL)
4. Carter Bradley, QB (Unknown)
5. Delando Johnson, LB (Solid Contributor at DB)
6. Andre Sturdivant, LB (Never played due to off-the-field issues)
T7. Morgan Williams, RB (Great as a freshman, much less production after that)
T7. Jermaine Robinson, S (Outstanding Safety for UT)
9. Travaris Cadet, QB (Transferred after RS freshamdn season. Now in the NFL as a RB)
T10. Aaron Covington, CB (No longer on roster, after promising freshman season)
T10. Jayrone Elliott, DE (Outstanding DE, though didn't blossom until senior year. Now in the NFL)
T12. Taikwon Paige, CB (JUCO. Contributor at UT. Had injuries as I recall)
T12. Bernard Reedy, WR (Lots of records at WR/KR/PR. Now in the NFL)
T12. Robert Bell, LB (Solid LB at UT)
15. Chris Green, LB (Career hampered by injuries thus far)
16. David Fluellen, RB (One of the best RB at UT. Now in the NFL)
17. Chris Dukes, CB (Started multiple seasons at CB for UT)
18. Kedonis Haslem, OG (Unknown. Yet to play for UT)
- Jermaine Robinson ... in the list twice
20. Alonzo Russell, WR (One of the top WR at UT. Now in the NFL)
21. Brian Blackburn, QB (Transferred out)
T22. DJ Lenehan, QB (Transferred out)
T22. Kaunda Hancock, WR (Transferred out)
24. Justin Olack, WR (Solid Role Player at UT)
25. AJ Hampton, CB (Unknown. Hasn't even officially signed)
26. James Gordon, LB (Role Player at UT)

Some others for reference:
T37. Greg Mancz
65. Eric Page
89. Treyvon Hester
100. Barry Church
101. Dan Molls
125. Logan Woodside
129. Kareem Hunt
146. Storm Norton
149. Terry Swanson
185. Terrance Owens
n/a Cody Thompson
n/a Diontae Johnson
n/a Michael Roberts

(12-20-2017 04:47 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  247sports has a list of the 250 highest ranked recruits signed by UT, all-time (well, as far back as 2005ish). Bradley is 4th in that list. Thought it would be interesting to look at the top 25 and see how they have panned out - or not.

Here's the list:
https://247sports.com/college/toledo/Spo...meRecruits

1. James Green, WR (Role player at UT)
2. Corey Jones, ATH (Lots of WR/PR/KR records at UT)
3. Rodney Adams, WR (Transferred after 1 year. Now in the NFL)
4. Carter Bradley, QB (Unknown)
5. Delando Johnson, LB (Solid Contributor at DB)
6. Andre Sturdivant, LB (Never played due to off-the-field issues)
T7. Morgan Williams, RB (Great as a freshman, much less production after that)
T7. Jermaine Robinson, S (Outstanding Safety for UT)
9. Travaris Cadet, QB (Transferred after RS freshamdn season. Now in the NFL as a RB)
T10. Aaron Covington, CB (No longer on roster, after promising freshman season)
T10. Jayrone Elliott, DE (Outstanding DE, though didn't blossom until senior year. Now in the NFL)
T12. Taikwon Paige, CB (JUCO. Contributor at UT. Had injuries as I recall)
T12. Bernard Reedy, WR (Lots of records at WR/KR/PR. Now in the NFL)
T12. Robert Bell, LB (Solid LB at UT)
15. Chris Green, LB (Career hampered by injuries thus far)
16. David Fluellen, RB (One of the best RB at UT. Now in the NFL)
17. Chris Dukes, CB (Started multiple seasons at CB for UT)
18. Kedonis Haslem, OG (Unknown. Yet to play for UT)
- Jermaine Robinson ... in the list twice
20. Alonzo Russell, WR (One of the top WR at UT. Now in the NFL)
21. Brian Blackburn, QB (Transferred out)
T22. DJ Lenehan, QB (Transferred out)
T22. Kaunda Hancock, WR (Transferred out)
24. Justin Olack, WR (Solid Role Player at UT)
25. AJ Hampton, CB (Unknown. Hasn't even officially signed)
26. James Gordon, LB (Role Player at UT)

Some others for reference:
T37. Greg Mancz
65. Eric Page
89. Treyvon Hester
100. Barry Church
101. Dan Molls
125. Logan Woodside
129. Kareem Hunt
146. Storm Norton
149. Terry Swanson
185. Terrance Owens
n/a Cody Thompson
n/a Diontae Johnson
n/a Michael Roberts

Morgan Williams had 14 TDs as a Senior, that was #4th in the MAC. 6 TDs as a Freshman.

i don't know about that list. Going by some of my old Phil Steele mags (which aggregate the top 5 or so recruiting service lists and average out the rankings) some of those recruits were in the middle of their class at UT behind some unranked kids, not at the top. It does show that your ranking as a 16 year old tends to be only a partial predictor of how good you will be at 20 or 21. Julian was much higher rated than Woodside. Jonvea (a solid player) was higher rated than Cody or Dionte Johnson (better players). Quinn was a ranked higher at LB than Adeniyi (both became DE and Adeniyi the better). Both Lamar and Daniel Davis were ranked higher than Childress (who starts ahead of them). Mathis was a lowly ranked db coming in, etc... The sweet spot for Toledo has generally been guys with lots of offers but average recruiting rankings (Hunt, Church, Nkansah, for example)

(12-20-2017 10:52 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 04:47 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  247sports has a list of the 250 highest ranked recruits signed by UT, all-time (well, as far back as 2005ish). Bradley is 4th in that list. Thought it would be interesting to look at the top 25 and see how they have panned out - or not.

Here's the list:
https://247sports.com/college/toledo/Spo...meRecruits

1. James Green, WR (Role player at UT)
2. Corey Jones, ATH (Lots of WR/PR/KR records at UT)
3. Rodney Adams, WR (Transferred after 1 year. Now in the NFL)
4. Carter Bradley, QB (Unknown)
5. Delando Johnson, LB (Solid Contributor at DB)
6. Andre Sturdivant, LB (Never played due to off-the-field issues)
T7. Morgan Williams, RB (Great as a freshman, much less production after that)
T7. Jermaine Robinson, S (Outstanding Safety for UT)
9. Travaris Cadet, QB (Transferred after RS freshamdn season. Now in the NFL as a RB)
T10. Aaron Covington, CB (No longer on roster, after promising freshman season)
T10. Jayrone Elliott, DE (Outstanding DE, though didn't blossom until senior year. Now in the NFL)
T12. Taikwon Paige, CB (JUCO. Contributor at UT. Had injuries as I recall)
T12. Bernard Reedy, WR (Lots of records at WR/KR/PR. Now in the NFL)
T12. Robert Bell, LB (Solid LB at UT)
15. Chris Green, LB (Career hampered by injuries thus far)
16. David Fluellen, RB (One of the best RB at UT. Now in the NFL)
17. Chris Dukes, CB (Started multiple seasons at CB for UT)
18. Kedonis Haslem, OG (Unknown. Yet to play for UT)
- Jermaine Robinson ... in the list twice
20. Alonzo Russell, WR (One of the top WR at UT. Now in the NFL)
21. Brian Blackburn, QB (Transferred out)
T22. DJ Lenehan, QB (Transferred out)
T22. Kaunda Hancock, WR (Transferred out)
24. Justin Olack, WR (Solid Role Player at UT)
25. AJ Hampton, CB (Unknown. Hasn't even officially signed)
26. James Gordon, LB (Role Player at UT)

Some others for reference:
T37. Greg Mancz
65. Eric Page
89. Treyvon Hester
100. Barry Church
101. Dan Molls
125. Logan Woodside
129. Kareem Hunt
146. Storm Norton
149. Terry Swanson
185. Terrance Owens
n/a Cody Thompson
n/a Diontae Johnson
n/a Michael Roberts

Morgan Williams had 14 TDs as a Senior, that was #4th in the MAC. 6 TDs as a Freshman.

Expectations after that freshman game against Miami were probably unrealistic.

where did this listing come from?

Nevermind... just found it in first post

(12-21-2017 09:00 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  where did this listing come from?

Nevermind... just found it in first post

Yeah this list doesnt make sense. I am pretty sure Church was a 4 star and recall him being one of UT's highest rated recruits. This list has him at 100. That makes no sense.

(12-21-2017 02:29 PM)BDV27 Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 09:00 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  where did this listing come from?

Nevermind... just found it in first post

Yeah this list doesnt make sense. I am pretty sure Church was a 4 star and recall him being one of UT's highest rated recruits. This list has him at 100. That makes no sense.

Barry was a 3 star recruit with a number of offers from schools like: Indiana, NC State,
Iowa, Maryland, West Virginia, "The" University of Toledo, other MAC schools.