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JMU Athletic Facilities
JMU obviously has a beautiful campus and amazing athletic facilities - most of which have been built or renovated since our first football national championship in 2004.
I won't get into listing all of the upgrades but we also know what's on the horizon - the new JMU basketball arena slated for completion by 2020, a new temporary indoor facility for athletics located at Sentara Park (per Coach Houston's 10 year extension) ready by 2018 football season, and the permanent indoor facility where the current Convo resides by the year 2022 according to the Harry Minium article below:

https://pilotonline.com/sports/columnist...45b0a.html

It's a great time to be a Duke!

Oh and on a slightly related note - ODU's FBS stadium renovation is looking like the capacity is now down to 20,000 and will look like FAU's stadium - yuck. No thanks and let's stay out of CUSA if that's the best we could get over there!

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...6738e.html
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(12-21-2017 02:16 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  JMU obviously has a beautiful campus and amazing athletic facilities - most of which have been built or renovated since our first football national championship in 2004.
I won't get into listing all of the upgrades but we also know what's on the horizon - the new JMU basketball arena slated for completion by 2020, a new temporary indoor facility for athletics located at Sentara Park (per Coach Houston's 10 year extension) ready by 2018 football season, and the permanent indoor facility where the current Convo resides by the year 2022 according to the Harry Minium article below:

https://pilotonline.com/sports/columnist...45b0a.html

It's a great time to be a Duke!

Oh and on a slightly related note - ODU's FBS stadium renovation is looking like the capacity is now down to 20,000 and will look like FAU's stadium - yuck. No thanks and let's stay out of CUSA if that's the best we could get over there!

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...6738e.html


20,000 makes it easier to keep this fictional sellout streak going.
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So they're spending all of that money for something that's going to seat LESS than what we have???
HAHAHAHA.

Best part is that it's going to be aluminum. They were calling our stadium "cheap" for using aluminum and now they're getting just that, but with even less capacity.
Can't make this stuff up.
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(12-21-2017 02:23 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  So they're spending all of that money for something that's going to seat LESS than what we have???
HAHAHAHA.

Best part is that it's going to be aluminum. They were calling our stadium "cheap" for using aluminum and now they're getting just that, but with even less capacity.
Can't make this stuff up.

i wouldn't trade places with ODU football in a million years.
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I’d rather wait a few years and do it right than do it half assed or reduced. Even when you build w/ expansion in mind, it’s always more expensive to add on later. 20k stadium keeps them entrenched in C-USA. A 30k stadium, expandable to 40k, esp. in a big market, would look good if the AAC came calling. Tough position they're in right now with having to build on campus.
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What happened to in 2013?[/b]
ODU envisions new, 30,000-seat football stadium
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...cb43b.html
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(12-21-2017 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  What happened to in 2013?[/b]
ODU envisions new, 30,000-seat football stadium
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...cb43b.html

this happened:

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...957e7.html
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baahawaaaha -

Where to start?

in the article
- smaller capacity
- declining interest
- thousands of no shows
- $55 million cost, for a smaller stadium with luxury seats still being debated

As I understand it, further expansion constrained due to the stadiums footprint. Haemorrhaging money in CUSA can't be helping either.

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(12-21-2017 03:03 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  baahawaaaha -

Where to start?

in the article
- smaller capacity
- declining interest
- thousands of no shows
- $55 million cost, for a smaller stadium with luxury seats still being debated

As I understand it, further expansion constrained due to the stadiums footprint. Haemorrhaging money in CUSA can't be helping either.

5-7 record
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Nice work Monarchs

Yup, after all the crap they gave us... We're in FCS and a metro that's less than 1/10 of the VA Beach metro, but have a larger, nicer stadium (than what they're going to be spending more to build brand new than what we did) getting sold out, ~100 spots higher in sagarins, and a higher than ever interest. I don't make it a practice to actively root against most other programs, but man...they were some real self-aggrandizing pricks those first few years. Hilarious to see them fail so hard.
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Yeah, you guys are doing well. I meant to take a picture of our last home game "sellout". Stadium was probably 2/3 full, maybe. Pretty pathetic. I really wish they would quick that gimmick. It's just embarrassing now.

As far as the stadium capacity looking at 20,000 and being an erector set.. yeah. Someone has really messed up somewhere. Over-promising nearly every step of the way. And they waited until the day after early signing to break the news. Feels bad man.

Good luck in your championship game. This Monarch fan still roots for you guys despite previous battles between our keyboard armies.
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(12-21-2017 02:28 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(12-21-2017 02:23 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  So they're spending all of that money for something that's going to seat LESS than what we have???
HAHAHAHA.

Best part is that it's going to be aluminum. They were calling our stadium "cheap" for using aluminum and now they're getting just that, but with even less capacity.
Can't make this stuff up.

i wouldn't trade places with ODU football in a million years.

Why would JMU want to "trade places" with ODU?
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(12-21-2017 03:03 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  baahawaaaha -

Where to start?

in the article
- smaller capacity
- declining interest
- thousands of no shows
- $55 million cost, for a smaller stadium with luxury seats still being debated

As I understand it, further expansion constrained due to the stadiums footprint. Haemorrhaging money in CUSA can't be helping either.

5-7 record
147 in the sagarins
Nice work Monarchs

And a temp press box...which is probably a good idea so fewer reports of their craptastic situation are shared...and no imminent long-range plan to implement an expanded buildout. Sure smells like “big boy” football has taken a turn for the worse at ODU. 03-lmfao

I’m sure ODU faithful are going ballistic over this latest announcement. Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of delusional fans.
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Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/
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(05-24-2018 12:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/

Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.
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(05-24-2018 01:15 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 12:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/

Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.

I would't jump to the conclusion that the convo rebuild won't be done the "right way'...and I sure don't think it will be "outdated" when finished.
I would agree that building new from the ground up would be best, and might actually be less expensive. That said, the rebuilt Convo will likely be a superior practice facility supporting many teams. As far as NDSU's plans, I'm surprised their practice facility doesn't look like an igloo.
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(05-24-2018 02:38 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 01:15 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 12:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/

Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.

I would't jump to the conclusion that the convo rebuild won't be done the "right way'...and I sure don't think it will be "outdated" when finished.
I would agree that building new from the ground up would be best, and might actually be less expensive. That said, the rebuilt Convo will likely be a superior practice facility supporting many teams. As far as NDSU's plans, I'm surprised their practice facility doesn't look like an igloo.

I'm more referring to the limited space inside than aesthetics. While were on the subject, we know if they're remodeling the outside?
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(05-24-2018 03:08 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 02:38 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 01:15 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 12:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/

Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.

I would't jump to the conclusion that the convo rebuild won't be done the "right way'...and I sure don't think it will be "outdated" when finished.
I would agree that building new from the ground up would be best, and might actually be less expensive. That said, the rebuilt Convo will likely be a superior practice facility supporting many teams. As far as NDSU's plans, I'm surprised their practice facility doesn't look like an igloo.

I'm more referring to the limited space inside than aesthetics. While were on the subject, we know if they're remodeling the outside?

I dont think any plans (inside or outside) have been shared publicly, so it’s all guess work right now what a redone Convo will look like. The convo is bigger inside than many people realize, and I fully expect any practice field to be turned 180 degrees from the present orientation of the basketball court. If you look at the width of the seating areas added to the width of the basketball floor area, you’re already close to 65-70 yards (minimum). How much of the concourse areas get used is a guess, but there’s another 10-20 yards of practice surface. It will be expensive...very expensive...which is my biggest concern.
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(05-24-2018 07:03 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 03:08 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 02:38 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 01:15 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 12:35 PM)Anders Wrote:  Not sure where to post this but NDSU has released the plans for their new indoor football practice facility

https://spark.adobe.com/page/lssl2Kbdld4hA/

Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.

I would't jump to the conclusion that the convo rebuild won't be done the "right way'...and I sure don't think it will be "outdated" when finished.
I would agree that building new from the ground up would be best, and might actually be less expensive. That said, the rebuilt Convo will likely be a superior practice facility supporting many teams. As far as NDSU's plans, I'm surprised their practice facility doesn't look like an igloo.

I'm more referring to the limited space inside than aesthetics. While were on the subject, we know if they're remodeling the outside?

I dont think any plans (inside or outside) have been shared publicly, so it’s all guess work right now what a redone Convo will look like. The convo is bigger inside than many people realize, and I fully expect any practice field to be turned 180 degrees from the present orientation of the basketball court. If you look at the width of the seating areas added to the width of the basketball floor area, you’re already close to 65-70 yards (minimum). How much of the concourse areas get used is a guess, but there’s another 10-20 yards of practice surface. It will be expensive...very expensive...which is my biggest concern.

Yep, filling up the hole will be a major undertaking $$$ and then the height of the ceiling becomes an issue. If you think about the ceiling height from the floor as you would enter the building, it's limited. I really hope for a teardown and rebuild yet still make it something many sports can utilize. It sure is prime real estate to only have a practice facility sitting there.

Not an expert at all, but sure seems that a practice facility could be placed in the Convo parking lot and where the actual Convo sits something else go in that area.
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(05-25-2018 05:34 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 07:03 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 03:08 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 02:38 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(05-24-2018 01:15 PM)JMU13 Wrote:  Really wish we bit the bullet and built one the right way - the new "50 yard" facility in what is now the convo will be outdated almost the second it's finished. Not much room for offense and defense to do separate activities in such a small space.

I would't jump to the conclusion that the convo rebuild won't be done the "right way'...and I sure don't think it will be "outdated" when finished.
I would agree that building new from the ground up would be best, and might actually be less expensive. That said, the rebuilt Convo will likely be a superior practice facility supporting many teams. As far as NDSU's plans, I'm surprised their practice facility doesn't look like an igloo.

I'm more referring to the limited space inside than aesthetics. While were on the subject, we know if they're remodeling the outside?

I dont think any plans (inside or outside) have been shared publicly, so it’s all guess work right now what a redone Convo will look like. The convo is bigger inside than many people realize, and I fully expect any practice field to be turned 180 degrees from the present orientation of the basketball court. If you look at the width of the seating areas added to the width of the basketball floor area, you’re already close to 65-70 yards (minimum). How much of the concourse areas get used is a guess, but there’s another 10-20 yards of practice surface. It will be expensive...very expensive...which is my biggest concern.

Yep, filling up the hole will be a major undertaking $$$ and then the height of the ceiling becomes an issue. If you think about the ceiling height from the floor as you would enter the building, it's limited. I really hope for a teardown and rebuild yet still make it something many sports can utilize. It sure is prime real estate to only have a practice facility sitting there.

Not an expert at all, but sure seems that a practice facility could be placed in the Convo parking lot and where the actual Convo sits something else go in that area.

Building new would be cheaper, and your suggestion of building on the parking lot sounds like a possibility that should be considered.

The inside height of the Convo is low when you enter, and seems low because we're always looking down from our seats onto the court. Look up, however, up to the highest row of seats, and you'll see that there is more height than impressions first suggest. I have no idea what an indoor ceiling height should be for FB, but like the possible indoor field length, what's available in height seems close to what's needed.

As a reminder, the existing floor of the convo was dug down...the reason players run down a ramp onto the court, and the floor level might even be dug lower if needed....but it's all still a matter of money.

As an all-purpose indoor training facility (one that might support other varsity teams) the Convo's location seems right. The parking and accessibility are right there, etc. If this project was just a FB-centric indoor facility, however, I'd build it where Goodwin is located. It would seem far more cost effective to save on duplication of a locker room, and provide easier access to the FB team on days when the weather was crappy.

I'd renovate the existing Convo to hold a new swimming and diving complex, along with a new Volleyball court, and move all Kinesiology related programs and other varsity sport main offices to the Convo. Less digging, etc....and possibly a whole lot less money to renovate the Convo...but a much bigger cost to tear down Godwin (including the existing student side), relocate utilities, move the student side so it connects to the endzone seating, and build a properly sized practice facility on the back side of the student seating. Yes, this suggestion might forgo the dream of one day building-out BFS to seat the 40-42k, but it would place the practice facility next to BFS, and if its done right, might expand seating on the student side by another 6-8k, enclose the horseshoe, and get seating to 30-32k (which should meet JMU's needs for a good long while).
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Whenever there is a study to renovate and re-purpose a building, it inevitably comes back that it is more cost effective to build a new facility from the ground up and get what you want. I suspect thats what will happen with the football training facility.

I would retrofit the convo for what it is, an indoor field house. Track, indoor soccer, hoops, playing field, an extension of UREc for intermurals.

The Godwin location is too central / valuable to the campus to be used for a football practice facility. I would leave it for expansion of the stadium, an additional library, dorms or a particle accelerator.....
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