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If the XFL is coming back why not they XBA?
12-22-2017 02:13 PM
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(12-22-2017 02:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  If the XFL is coming back why not they XBA?

Because at least Vince McMAhon knows how to book venues, sell tickets, work with TV partners, recruit athletes, etc. (And the XFL still went bust).
12-22-2017 03:11 PM
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many of these kids today are actually getting a good education (free of charge) Yes they make money for the school but playing BB or FB is their "job" to earn the free tuition and board, just as working in the cafeteria is the "job" of some other kid receiving financial aid.
What will happen when these kids that accept Balls offer get injured or don't make the pros? with limited skills what will their future be like? At least if they go to school they have a degree to fall back on. Unless they are able to learn a trade their options will be limited.
I have to go back and read it, but is offer $3000 a month for the lower tier recruits? you cant survive in NYC or LA in that
12-23-2017 10:12 AM
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(12-23-2017 10:12 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  many of these kids today are actually getting a good education (free of charge) Yes they make money for the school but playing BB or FB is their "job" to earn the free tuition and board, just as working in the cafeteria is the "job" of some other kid receiving financial aid.
What will happen when these kids that accept Balls offer get injured or don't make the pros? with limited skills what will their future be like? At least if they go to school they have a degree to fall back on. Unless they are able to learn a trade their options will be limited.
I have to go back and read it, but is offer $3000 a month for the lower tier recruits? you cant survive in NYC or LA in that

About the same as the kids who declare for the draft after their freshman or sophomore year and go undrafted, or go mid-second-round and don't make the roster.
12-23-2017 09:45 PM
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I was ready to heartily agree with gosports, but the obvious answer occurs to me: Europe.
12-23-2017 10:05 PM
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I don't see more than a handful of fans attending these games. You might get some relatives if they are close enough but that doesn't seem likely. There are no college fans that might want to see how a former player is doing.

They might be able to rent HS or city rec-league gyms fairly cheap. Scheduling would still be difficult because HS gyms have a tight schedule with all the boys and girls sports. City gyms are fairly active with adult and youth leagues. The best solution might be to put all the teams in 1 location and hope you get enough ticket/concessions revenue to pay the rent. Maybe play a road game or two in some towns close by.

If I had a child in that position I would try to get him into AAU basketball.
12-26-2017 09:20 AM
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(12-26-2017 09:20 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I don't see more than a handful of fans attending these games. You might get some relatives if they are close enough but that doesn't seem likely. There are no college fans that might want to see how a former player is doing.

They might be able to rent HS or city rec-league gyms fairly cheap. Scheduling would still be difficult because HS gyms have a tight schedule with all the boys and girls sports. City gyms are fairly active with adult and youth leagues. The best solution might be to put all the teams in 1 location and hope you get enough ticket/concessions revenue to pay the rent. Maybe play a road game or two in some towns close by.

If I had a child in that position I would try to get him into AAU basketball.

I've often wondered why the G-League doesn't do this. Pick a city that doesn't have an NBA team but is still relatively large, and eliminate all your travel costs. Someplace like St. Louis comes to mind. You could get by with a single arena for the whole league by judicious practice and game schedules.

The whole point is development. Nobody cares about who the G-League champion is. For that matter, who even knows who that is? The NBA could help itself by adding games to their megabucks TV deal to showcase one and done players, billing them as the Stars of Tomorrow. There's no reason why the league can't pay a little more for those players who will be lottery picks after one season.
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12-26-2017 10:18 AM
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Dayton Ohio would be a fantastic city to host this model
12-26-2017 08:48 PM
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(12-26-2017 10:18 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 09:20 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I don't see more than a handful of fans attending these games. You might get some relatives if they are close enough but that doesn't seem likely. There are no college fans that might want to see how a former player is doing.

They might be able to rent HS or city rec-league gyms fairly cheap. Scheduling would still be difficult because HS gyms have a tight schedule with all the boys and girls sports. City gyms are fairly active with adult and youth leagues. The best solution might be to put all the teams in 1 location and hope you get enough ticket/concessions revenue to pay the rent. Maybe play a road game or two in some towns close by.

If I had a child in that position I would try to get him into AAU basketball.

I've often wondered why the G-League doesn't do this. Pick a city that doesn't have an NBA team but is still relatively large, and eliminate all your travel costs. Someplace like St. Louis comes to mind. You could get by with a single arena for the whole league by judicious practice and game schedules.

The whole point is development. Nobody cares about who the G-League champion is. For that matter, who even knows who that is? The NBA could help itself by adding games to their megabucks TV deal to showcase one and done players, billing them as the Stars of Tomorrow. There's no reason why the league can't pay a little more for those players who will be lottery picks after one season.

The point of the G-League is to develop a healthy minor league. Some of the franchises like Sioux Falls and Santa Cruz pretty much fill the venue every night. And now most G-League teams are located within a couple hours of their parent NBA club to facilitate both rapid call up and more interaction with the parent club in training and executives etc. The schedule if by region (West play West, East play East, with only 1 game against each of the other region, and two of those at the showcase in Toronto), so travel is somewhat minimized.

For the single location, the Summer League is going to that with all 30 teams in Las Vegas, July 6-19 next year.

There are very few players that fit the mold of what LaVar Ball has in mind. Most of the development league players are guys who used up their NCAA eligibility and then spend a few years in the G-League trying to break into the NBA. If you have the talent to get to the NBA there are plenty of schools to one and done or two and done. How many cannot handle 2 semi-serious Freshmen level classes (including one "intro to" in that count) packaged with some athletics related course (e.g., intercollegiate athletics, weight training) and a "how to handle your finances" type class for two quarters or semesters? UCLA, Arizona, KU, and UK have that down to an art, and many schools can match that.

The entire clientele LaVar is seeking to serve may number under one hundred, but only a very select handful have any professional future. And those who do are going to take the traditional route and get some work in under the coaches with a track record, and being BMOC in the process.
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Why on earth would any 18 year old play in Lavar Ball's league when the G League is an option?
12-27-2017 10:07 AM
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(12-26-2017 10:18 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 09:20 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  I don't see more than a handful of fans attending these games. You might get some relatives if they are close enough but that doesn't seem likely. There are no college fans that might want to see how a former player is doing.

They might be able to rent HS or city rec-league gyms fairly cheap. Scheduling would still be difficult because HS gyms have a tight schedule with all the boys and girls sports. City gyms are fairly active with adult and youth leagues. The best solution might be to put all the teams in 1 location and hope you get enough ticket/concessions revenue to pay the rent. Maybe play a road game or two in some towns close by.

If I had a child in that position I would try to get him into AAU basketball.

I've often wondered why the G-League doesn't do this. Pick a city that doesn't have an NBA team but is still relatively large, and eliminate all your travel costs. Someplace like St. Louis comes to mind. You could get by with a single arena for the whole league by judicious practice and game schedules.

The whole point is development. Nobody cares about who the G-League champion is. For that matter, who even knows who that is? The NBA could help itself by adding games to their megabucks TV deal to showcase one and done players, billing them as the Stars of Tomorrow. There's no reason why the league can't pay a little more for those players who will be lottery picks after one season.

That is similar to what MLB does with the Arizona Fall League - 6 teams (each with 5 parents MLB teams), playing in 6 of the Spring Training parks. Open to players in AA or below. A lot of stars have played in the Fall League.
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