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RE: USF fails again
(12-18-2017 09:20 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:54 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:50 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:44 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  You're comparing Big East days to AAC days.
USF averaged 53,170 fans in its six home games at Raymond James Stadium in 2007.
no im not....I said during diaco's Final year....we also never went 3-9 while we were in the big east..... we played cuse at home in 2016 (that is the game that i am referring to) and we are going to there dump this year...we all now you guys had good attendance in the big east. We did too.

2005-2010? I meant to quote your husky brethren above.

oh no worries

but since you asked about the numbers:
2003: 37,059

2004: 39,304

2005: 40,000

2006: 38,939

2007: 38,919

2008: 39,331

2009: 38,229

2010: 38,248

2011: 36,668

2012:34,672

our stadium is 40,000 seats

these numbers are pretty good for 6-8 wins per year.
we dont wan't much when it comes to football. just make a bowl game every year and were happy lol. if you win a conference championship even better. if randy gets us a bowl game the rent will sell out again

What about the Fiesta Bowl? Most likely the peak of the program (not an insult better than I can say) only selling 2,700 of your 17,500 allotment.

Everyone has to bring that up....well its tough and very expensive for husky fans to travel from ct to az as well as the game tickets are expensive. but yeah it very shamefull. hopefully when you get to a ny6 bowl (if you ever do) you'll post better numbers 05-stirthepot
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(12-18-2017 09:31 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:20 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:54 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:50 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  no im not....I said during diaco's Final year....we also never went 3-9 while we were in the big east..... we played cuse at home in 2016 (that is the game that i am referring to) and we are going to there dump this year...we all now you guys had good attendance in the big east. We did too.

2005-2010? I meant to quote your husky brethren above.

oh no worries

but since you asked about the numbers:
2003: 37,059

2004: 39,304

2005: 40,000

2006: 38,939

2007: 38,919

2008: 39,331

2009: 38,229

2010: 38,248

2011: 36,668

2012:34,672

our stadium is 40,000 seats

these numbers are pretty good for 6-8 wins per year.
we dont wan't much when it comes to football. just make a bowl game every year and were happy lol. if you win a conference championship even better. if randy gets us a bowl game the rent will sell out again

What about the Fiesta Bowl? Most likely the peak of the program (not an insult better than I can say) only selling 2,700 of your 17,500 allotment.

Everyone has to bring that up....well its tough and very expensive for husky fans to travel from ct to az as well as the game tickets are expensive. but yeah it very shamefull. hopefully when you get to a ny6 bowl (if you ever do) you'll post better numbers 05-stirthepot

Let's also not act like it was a 10+ win season. UCONN played in that game not because they were good that year, but because everyone else (including USF, as usual) sucked worse. Why would a UCONN fan blow money on a trip to Arizona to watch their team get blown out, especially when (unlike USF), we had basketball season and the NCAA tournament to look forward to?
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(12-18-2017 09:35 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:31 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:20 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:54 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  2005-2010? I meant to quote your husky brethren above.

oh no worries

but since you asked about the numbers:
2003: 37,059

2004: 39,304

2005: 40,000

2006: 38,939

2007: 38,919

2008: 39,331

2009: 38,229

2010: 38,248

2011: 36,668

2012:34,672

our stadium is 40,000 seats

these numbers are pretty good for 6-8 wins per year.
we dont wan't much when it comes to football. just make a bowl game every year and were happy lol. if you win a conference championship even better. if randy gets us a bowl game the rent will sell out again

What about the Fiesta Bowl? Most likely the peak of the program (not an insult better than I can say) only selling 2,700 of your 17,500 allotment.

Everyone has to bring that up....well its tough and very expensive for husky fans to travel from ct to az as well as the game tickets are expensive. but yeah it very shamefull. hopefully when you get to a ny6 bowl (if you ever do) you'll post better numbers 05-stirthepot

Let's also not act like it was a 10+ win season. UCONN played in that game not because they were good that year, but because everyone else (including USF, as usual) sucked worse. Why would a UCONN fan blow money on a trip to Arizona to watch their team get blown out, especially when (unlike USF), we had basketball season and the NCAA tournament to look forward to?


Hey, he went for blood i had to clap back.
you know that. Its obvious the big east was weak. but still, we have a bcs appearance and the bulls don't. I was just defending UConn after he went after our tickets sales for that game. lol

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(12-18-2017 09:31 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:20 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:54 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:50 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  no im not....I said during diaco's Final year....we also never went 3-9 while we were in the big east..... we played cuse at home in 2016 (that is the game that i am referring to) and we are going to there dump this year...we all now you guys had good attendance in the big east. We did too.

2005-2010? I meant to quote your husky brethren above.

oh no worries

but since you asked about the numbers:
2003: 37,059

2004: 39,304

2005: 40,000

2006: 38,939

2007: 38,919

2008: 39,331

2009: 38,229

2010: 38,248

2011: 36,668

2012:34,672

our stadium is 40,000 seats

these numbers are pretty good for 6-8 wins per year.
we dont wan't much when it comes to football. just make a bowl game every year and were happy lol. if you win a conference championship even better. if randy gets us a bowl game the rent will sell out again

What about the Fiesta Bowl? Most likely the peak of the program (not an insult better than I can say) only selling 2,700 of your 17,500 allotment.

Everyone has to bring that up....well its tough and very expensive for husky fans to travel from ct to az as well as the game tickets are expensive. but yeah it very shamefull. hopefully when you get to a ny6 bowl (if you ever do) you'll post better numbers 05-stirthepot

Unfortunately I had to use your team as an example but I dont see how we are getting so much **** about our "bowel" game.

Birmingham, at least the area around the stadium is the worst I have ever visited. We played there exactly 1 year ago. We are up against a mediocre P5 team that doesn't want to be there either. Expectations for this team were much greater. The game is on the weekend of christmas. Tbh I'd rather save the money watch it on tv and buy my wife something nice for Christmas.

I am almost at the point where my CFB obsession needs to be reevaluated. We as a conference are just reaching for the stars when in reality they are already burnt out. UCF should be in a spot to win a NC and instead are playing a team that can use lack of motivation as an excuse or win and say I told you so.

At least Bball is fair, oh wait USF sucks at that.

I like our conference mates and the conference just not the respect level and $$ we get. I really dont understand the hatred towards USF on this board, sans UCF.
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(12-18-2017 09:46 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:31 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:20 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 09:09 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:54 PM)Ocalabull Wrote:  2005-2010? I meant to quote your husky brethren above.

oh no worries

but since you asked about the numbers:
2003: 37,059

2004: 39,304

2005: 40,000

2006: 38,939

2007: 38,919

2008: 39,331

2009: 38,229

2010: 38,248

2011: 36,668

2012:34,672

our stadium is 40,000 seats

these numbers are pretty good for 6-8 wins per year.
we dont wan't much when it comes to football. just make a bowl game every year and were happy lol. if you win a conference championship even better. if randy gets us a bowl game the rent will sell out again

What about the Fiesta Bowl? Most likely the peak of the program (not an insult better than I can say) only selling 2,700 of your 17,500 allotment.

Everyone has to bring that up....well its tough and very expensive for husky fans to travel from ct to az as well as the game tickets are expensive. but yeah it very shamefull. hopefully when you get to a ny6 bowl (if you ever do) you'll post better numbers 05-stirthepot

Unfortunately I had to use your team as an example but I dont see how we are getting so much **** about our "bowel" game.

Birmingham, at least the area around the stadium is the worst I have ever visited. We played there exactly 1 year ago. We are up against a mediocre P5 team that doesn't want to be there either. Expectations for this team were much greater. The game is on the weekend of christmas. Tbh I'd rather save the money watch it on tv and buy my wife something nice for Christmas.

I am almost at the point where my CFB obsession needs to be reevaluated. We as a conference are just reaching for the stars when in reality they are already burnt out. UCF should be in a spot to win a NC and instead are playing a team that can use lack of motivation as an excuse or win and say I told you so.

At least Bball is fair, oh wait USF sucks at that.

I like our conference mates and the conference just not the respect level and $$ we get. I really dont understand the hatred towards USF on this board, sans UCF.


The hate will pass. During the off season right when I joined this board everyone was ripping on UConn. So i get what ur saying.


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During bowl season, we all have to be AAC fans. As much as I hate usf I was pulling for them to do their part to make the conference look good. It’s unfortunate, hope this leak to the media was intended to light a fire under their fan base.
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I went last year and there were more USF fans than SC fans. I didn't buy my tickets from USF because they were $50 each for crappy seats. I paid $20 on stubhub for 5th row seats and just moved to the USF section. Actually I walked on the field with the band at halftime and watched the game from the sideline with the team.
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(12-18-2017 11:13 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  I went last year and there were more USF fans than SC fans. I didn't buy my tickets from USF because they were $50 each for crappy seats. I paid $20 on stubhub for 5th row seats and just moved to the USF section. Actually I walked on the field with the band at halftime and watched the game from the sideline with the team.
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(12-18-2017 08:02 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 06:37 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  As far as having increased attendance if you were in a P5 conference, who wouldn't? If Memphis played Tennessee, Ole Miss and Alabama during the regular season, we would have hard sellouts every week. There is no excuse for USF's attendance. You act like USF is above all the other teams in the AAC. That is laughable.

The fair comparisons for our attendance are Cincy and UConn, the other two schools that got demoted during the massive 2010-2012 realignment.

Data for this year isn't in yet, but in 2016 our official NCAA attendance was better than UConn or Cincy, and it also was better than UConn and Cincy in 2014, perhaps the nadir of our program in terms of being four straight years of losing football and coming on the heels of the demotion. It was better than those two in 2013 as well, worse in 2015.

So while yes, our attendance does leave a lot to be desired, and no question we need to do better at building our fan base, it's not clear why so much attention is focused on USF attendance. 07-coffee3

why the attention? when a top 25 team in our league can only do 1000 tickets...its badly affects us all ..we renegotiate for bowls in 2 years..this is bad for all

also your "released" numbers are very badly inflated, even beyond normal. even your beat writers has noted this many times.. he once noted you reported over 35k and only had 15k actual people show up (cant inflate bowl numbers)

and that plays into cincy who had a small stadium cap prior to last year...you were reporting numbers larger than cincy's max capacity on only a reality of 15-17k actual people, while cincy was having actual sell outs but reporting the max amount (less than usfs reported)

no manipulated numbers cincy and uconn have been bad the last few years...ive seen uconn sellout every time they remotely think they are decent..ive watched cincy games packed to the brim when they are decent (in the AAC)...

your rebuttal point of look at cincy and uconn doesn't add the aspect of quality of team... i GUARANTEE you cincy or uconn coming of a top 25 season projected to have another top 25 season with a qb likely to be decorated as the best in its history sell out every game or close (40k actual people)

True story. UCONN regularly sold out their 40K stadium (actual butts in seats) with 8 to 9 win teams from 2005-2010. USF's attendance for a 10+ win team is a complete joke.

Here's the true story: In UConn's best year, 2010, your Fiesta Bowl year, USF had better attendance than UConn.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2010.pdf
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You south Florida fans are something else. If you can't handle a newbie like me calling you out then how do you think the big12 fans are ever going to treat you ?

Big babies. You're just jealous that after having every advantage over ucf for years you have NOTHING to show for it.

Not only that but UCF has surpassed you in every way.
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(12-19-2017 12:44 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  You south Florida fans are something else. If you can't handle a newbie like me calling you out then how do you think the big12 fans are ever going to treat you ?

Big babies. You're just jealous that after having every advantage over ucf for years you have NOTHING to show for it.

Not only that but UCF has surpassed you in every way.

Lol you seem like you are about 5'2"
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Cut USF some slack...that’s a long distance for commuters.


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(12-18-2017 03:53 PM)Bull Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 03:38 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 03:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 03:21 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-fo...l-tickets/

I'm glad. Maybe this will teach Aresco that USF has had its fill of the Birmingham Bowl.

No team should ever have to go to that bowl more than once a decade, yet we get stuck with it in back to back years.

Good example of an informal boycott. 07-coffee3

I think I am probably one of the only people to ever say this... but I think Birmingham is a cool city. Nowhere near as bad as its reputation. The Avondale area is really cool, and there are a few good breweries in town.

I was there for the bowl game last year... We went up to see the statue of Vulcan that overlooks the city. It was pretty cool! I thought the stadium was fine. I would hardly consider it as bad a bowl as many on this forum rage on about...

Did they ever fix the hand on Vulcan that was on backwards? lol
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(12-19-2017 12:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:02 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 06:37 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  As far as having increased attendance if you were in a P5 conference, who wouldn't? If Memphis played Tennessee, Ole Miss and Alabama during the regular season, we would have hard sellouts every week. There is no excuse for USF's attendance. You act like USF is above all the other teams in the AAC. That is laughable.

The fair comparisons for our attendance are Cincy and UConn, the other two schools that got demoted during the massive 2010-2012 realignment.

Data for this year isn't in yet, but in 2016 our official NCAA attendance was better than UConn or Cincy, and it also was better than UConn and Cincy in 2014, perhaps the nadir of our program in terms of being four straight years of losing football and coming on the heels of the demotion. It was better than those two in 2013 as well, worse in 2015.

So while yes, our attendance does leave a lot to be desired, and no question we need to do better at building our fan base, it's not clear why so much attention is focused on USF attendance. 07-coffee3

why the attention? when a top 25 team in our league can only do 1000 tickets...its badly affects us all ..we renegotiate for bowls in 2 years..this is bad for all

also your "released" numbers are very badly inflated, even beyond normal. even your beat writers has noted this many times.. he once noted you reported over 35k and only had 15k actual people show up (cant inflate bowl numbers)

and that plays into cincy who had a small stadium cap prior to last year...you were reporting numbers larger than cincy's max capacity on only a reality of 15-17k actual people, while cincy was having actual sell outs but reporting the max amount (less than usfs reported)

no manipulated numbers cincy and uconn have been bad the last few years...ive seen uconn sellout every time they remotely think they are decent..ive watched cincy games packed to the brim when they are decent (in the AAC)...

your rebuttal point of look at cincy and uconn doesn't add the aspect of quality of team... i GUARANTEE you cincy or uconn coming of a top 25 season projected to have another top 25 season with a qb likely to be decorated as the best in its history sell out every game or close (40k actual people)

True story. UCONN regularly sold out their 40K stadium (actual butts in seats) with 8 to 9 win teams from 2005-2010. USF's attendance for a 10+ win team is a complete joke.

Here's the true story: In UConn's best year, 2010, your Fiesta Bowl year, USF had better attendance than UConn.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2010.pdf


Actually our best year was 2007. Well in my opinion it was. We were 9-3 and ranked a for a solid chunk of that year. And we won share of the big east. We lost the bcs bowl birth chances when we played 2 wvu. But you guys should beat us in attendance ur stadium is so much bigger and we were a basketball school at that time.


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USF fans... what do you think would be the best way to engage the current students (aka, not "spoiled alumni")? How does USF currently distribute/handle student tickets for games?
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(12-19-2017 08:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:02 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  The fair comparisons for our attendance are Cincy and UConn, the other two schools that got demoted during the massive 2010-2012 realignment.

Data for this year isn't in yet, but in 2016 our official NCAA attendance was better than UConn or Cincy, and it also was better than UConn and Cincy in 2014, perhaps the nadir of our program in terms of being four straight years of losing football and coming on the heels of the demotion. It was better than those two in 2013 as well, worse in 2015.

So while yes, our attendance does leave a lot to be desired, and no question we need to do better at building our fan base, it's not clear why so much attention is focused on USF attendance. 07-coffee3

why the attention? when a top 25 team in our league can only do 1000 tickets...its badly affects us all ..we renegotiate for bowls in 2 years..this is bad for all

also your "released" numbers are very badly inflated, even beyond normal. even your beat writers has noted this many times.. he once noted you reported over 35k and only had 15k actual people show up (cant inflate bowl numbers)

and that plays into cincy who had a small stadium cap prior to last year...you were reporting numbers larger than cincy's max capacity on only a reality of 15-17k actual people, while cincy was having actual sell outs but reporting the max amount (less than usfs reported)

no manipulated numbers cincy and uconn have been bad the last few years...ive seen uconn sellout every time they remotely think they are decent..ive watched cincy games packed to the brim when they are decent (in the AAC)...

your rebuttal point of look at cincy and uconn doesn't add the aspect of quality of team... i GUARANTEE you cincy or uconn coming of a top 25 season projected to have another top 25 season with a qb likely to be decorated as the best in its history sell out every game or close (40k actual people)

True story. UCONN regularly sold out their 40K stadium (actual butts in seats) with 8 to 9 win teams from 2005-2010. USF's attendance for a 10+ win team is a complete joke.

Here's the true story: In UConn's best year, 2010, your Fiesta Bowl year, USF had better attendance than UConn.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2010.pdf


Actually our best year was 2007. Well in my opinion it was. We were 9-3 and ranked a for a solid chunk of that year. And we won share of the big east. We lost the bcs bowl birth chances when we played 2 wvu. But you guys should beat us in attendance ur stadium is so much bigger and we were a basketball school at that time.


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(12-19-2017 09:06 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 08:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:02 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 07:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  why the attention? when a top 25 team in our league can only do 1000 tickets...its badly affects us all ..we renegotiate for bowls in 2 years..this is bad for all

also your "released" numbers are very badly inflated, even beyond normal. even your beat writers has noted this many times.. he once noted you reported over 35k and only had 15k actual people show up (cant inflate bowl numbers)

and that plays into cincy who had a small stadium cap prior to last year...you were reporting numbers larger than cincy's max capacity on only a reality of 15-17k actual people, while cincy was having actual sell outs but reporting the max amount (less than usfs reported)

no manipulated numbers cincy and uconn have been bad the last few years...ive seen uconn sellout every time they remotely think they are decent..ive watched cincy games packed to the brim when they are decent (in the AAC)...

your rebuttal point of look at cincy and uconn doesn't add the aspect of quality of team... i GUARANTEE you cincy or uconn coming of a top 25 season projected to have another top 25 season with a qb likely to be decorated as the best in its history sell out every game or close (40k actual people)

True story. UCONN regularly sold out their 40K stadium (actual butts in seats) with 8 to 9 win teams from 2005-2010. USF's attendance for a 10+ win team is a complete joke.

Here's the true story: In UConn's best year, 2010, your Fiesta Bowl year, USF had better attendance than UConn.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2010.pdf


Actually our best year was 2007. Well in my opinion it was. We were 9-3 and ranked a for a solid chunk of that year. And we won share of the big east. We lost the bcs bowl birth chances when we played 2 wvu. But you guys should beat us in attendance ur stadium is so much bigger and we were a basketball school at that time.


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Yup. LOL Quohood.

USF had better attendance in 2007 than UConn as well. 07-coffee3
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(12-19-2017 09:32 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 09:06 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 08:25 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 12:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-18-2017 08:02 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  True story. UCONN regularly sold out their 40K stadium (actual butts in seats) with 8 to 9 win teams from 2005-2010. USF's attendance for a 10+ win team is a complete joke.

Here's the true story: In UConn's best year, 2010, your Fiesta Bowl year, USF had better attendance than UConn.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_r...e/2010.pdf


Actually our best year was 2007. Well in my opinion it was. We were 9-3 and ranked a for a solid chunk of that year. And we won share of the big east. We lost the bcs bowl birth chances when we played 2 wvu. But you guys should beat us in attendance ur stadium is so much bigger and we were a basketball school at that time.


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Yup. LOL Quohood.

USF had better attendance in 2007 than UConn as well. 07-coffee3


But who won the game


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(12-19-2017 09:34 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(12-19-2017 09:32 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  USF had better attendance in 2007 than UConn as well. 07-coffee3


But who won the game

Competing against UConn in football has always been fun, and historic for us. In 2000, you were the first FBS team we ever beat as an FBS team.

And in the Big East, you got the best of us, 5-3, frustrating, because so many of the games were close. IIRC, you beat us three in a row from 2009-2011, and each game was frustratingly close from a USF point of view. Tough, hard-fought football games, and even in the AAC it was the same until the last two years.
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