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(12-23-2017 08:11 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 03:43 PM)LetsGoODU Wrote:  Their band was awesome. Ours is fine, but fine doesn’t do much to excite. If the band members are picking the songs, that’s even more headscratching.

Our band is the most energetic group at the TED besides a handful of us. They understand the game, cheer, jeer, and are into it. Could some of the tunes be better/different? Sure. I’ll take all the awesome stuff their doing!


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Agreed - their energy is outstanding. I wish the rest of the crowd would be more energetic. It still burns me up when the VCU fans were louder than ours in the Ted. I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved. It also doesn’t help that the student attendance is generally weak. But you can always count on our band to bring it every game.

(12-23-2017 04:12 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Who conducts at the games? He is usually in a blue blazer and tie. Needless to say compared to VCU's and GMU's band, he looks a little stiff. Why no guitars?? The pep band reminds me more of players from a symphony orchestra moonlighting. I'd rather see a grimy, loud, contemporary rock or jazz band. Just play some slightly more current, up beat tunes.

Dr. T, drum major, or grad assistant. Guitars would be a waste of money IMO. Mason had electric violins. Those things sound horrible. I'm not big on electrical instruments in pep band. That's just me

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(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

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(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

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I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

OK the venue sucked, but there was a noticeable feel of energy in the crowd. I liked it. It's what you get when rivals play and each team brings it's fans. This is exactly what's missing at the TED. Rarely is there more than literally a handful of opposing fans at the games to help fuel the energy. This is one element we gave up when we changed conferences.

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

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I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

That goes into whether the majority of us graduates in our 20s ( I'm 27) stay in Hampton roads or go elsewhere but that's a whole other story. I graduated in 15 but moved back to Richmond. I'd go to every game if I lived there but I don't

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(12-24-2017 10:04 AM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

That goes into whether the majority of us graduates in our 20s ( I'm 27) stay in Hampton roads or go elsewhere but that's a whole other story. I graduated in 15 but moved back to Richmond. I'd go to every game if I lived there but I don't

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Yes, that certainly makes a difference as it is unreasonable to expect anyone to drive 4 hours round trip 2 or 3 times a week to go to a basketball game. You sound like a good fan ODUMONARCHZ1 and if more students and recent graduates that live in the area were more like you it would be a different situation.

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

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I was a season ticket holder at University of Michigan for four years before returning to Norfolk last year. People had the same complaints about Michigan MBB. With the exception of the students, too many fans were older and less vocal. The big difference was the student section. At UM they were usually packed, loud and fun to watch. Ignoring this game because school is out, it would be nice to see more students and energy in the student section. I know there are vast differences in the fan bases between a primarily residential campus and more commuters here at ODU. By the way, the band played Sweet Adeline at UM too; and yes, we sang the "bump bump bump".

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

Again, it isn't the fans as much as the lack of big moments. The NIT run a few years back proved that the fans are fully capable of stepping up to the task. I bet the Ted will be rocking on February 1 against MTSU if we are 8-0 or 7-1 going into it.

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(12-24-2017 10:20 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

Again, it isn't the fans as much as the lack of big moments. The NIT run a few years back proved that the fans are fully capable of stepping up to the task. I bet the Ted will be rocking on February 1 against MTSU if we are 8-0 or 7-1 going into it.

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The NIT run was first come first served to all seats. The crowd had a different make up and it was light years better. It helped that the game had some meaning. As for the Norfolk State game, there was a tension in the air. I believe it was because the game DID have meaning. The meaning being that it was MUST win for us as showing we’re the top dog in town and a HUGE game for Norfolk State as many of their fans feel they are given a back seat to ODU in the city and media.


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(12-24-2017 10:20 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

Again, it isn't the fans as much as the lack of big moments. The NIT run a few years back proved that the fans are fully capable of stepping up to the task. I bet the Ted will be rocking on February 1 against MTSU if we are 8-0 or 7-1 going into it.

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Again, every game (moment) has to be a big game (moment) to the fans, and yes the students (younger crowd) being there does change the dynamics.

VCU has that kind of atmosphere game in, game out and doesn't need it to be an NIT game to have it.

(12-24-2017 10:09 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 10:04 AM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 09:58 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 08:48 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-23-2017 08:26 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  I think our base crowd is just older and more reserved.

I think that's the biggest factor and root cause of our atmosphere overall.

No offense to our seasoned dedicated fans that aren't part of that stigma. But scan the Ted all around the best seats. It's mostly older folks taking in an enjoyable game. It's all cyclical as fan bases go through generations.

I don't think we are an anomaly either. I think many universities are in the same boat looking at games on tv.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

I don't believe that anything is going to change much till the students, and those that just graduated (or others that are in their 20's) start showing up en mass every single game. That is the biggest difference between ODU's atmosphere and VCU's. In my opinion the crowd dictates and creates the atmosphere and a younger crowd would have a different one from what the older crowd currently has.

I'm not saying to ostracize the older people from coming to the games. I'm saying that if an influx of younger people in their late teens and 20's would routinely come out in large groups that alone would lower the average age.

That goes into whether the majority of us graduates in our 20s ( I'm 27) stay in Hampton roads or go elsewhere but that's a whole other story. I graduated in 15 but moved back to Richmond. I'd go to every game if I lived there but I don't

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Yes, that certainly makes a difference as it is unreasonable to expect anyone to drive 4 hours round trip 2 or 3 times a week to go to a basketball game. You sound like a good fan ODUMONARCHZ1 and if more students and recent graduates that live in the area were more like you it would be a different situation.

Thanks I appreciate that

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Not gonna say JJ must go again, I have become satisfied with mediocrity! The thrill is gone.

You guys wanna beat your chests about how ODU shouldn't be forced to breathe the same air as Norfolk State? Then don't trail them with less than eight minutes left and don't beat them less impressively than Bowling Green, Little Rock and Robert Morris.

You guys wanna complain about playing NSU in anything but a buy game? Then don't say a word when P5 programs big-time ODU at every turn, because they're playing the same game.

And for those of you who explicitly say that ODU shouldn't play any MEAC schools without mentioning other similarly performing conferences, well ... that ****'s just not cool. Or shouldn't be. It's one thing to say "hey, don't play so many low-majors" or "do we need five games from the same conference" or whatever. But singling out the MEAC is kinda a collar-tuggingly uncomfortable statement, y'know?

(12-24-2017 11:50 AM)Spantheman34 Wrote:  Not gonna say JJ must go again, I have become satisfied with mediocrity! The thrill is gone.

I'm frustrated as well, but JJ can't go right now. We aren't going to do any better at his pay grade and we clearly cannot afford to increase it. Wood needs to go now and the department needs to be restructured.

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(12-24-2017 01:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 11:50 AM)Spantheman34 Wrote:  Not gonna say JJ must go again, I have become satisfied with mediocrity! The thrill is gone.

I'm frustrated as well, but JJ can't go right now. We aren't going to do any better at his pay grade and we clearly cannot afford to increase it. Wood needs to go now and the department needs to be restructured.

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Fact.

[quote='Cyniclone' pid='14928465' dateline='1514139304']
You guys wanna beat your chests about how ODU shouldn't be forced to breathe the same air as Norfolk State? Then don't trail them with less than eight minutes left and don't beat them less impressively than Bowling Green, Little Rock and Robert Morris.

You guys wanna complain about playing NSU in anything but a buy game? Then don't say a word when P5 programs big-time ODU at every turn, because they're playing the same game.

And for those of you who explicitly say that ODU shouldn't play any MEAC schools without mentioning other similarly performing conferences, well ... that ****'s just not cool. Or shouldn't be. It's one thing to say "hey, don't play so many low-majors" or "do we need five games from the same conference" or whatever. But singling out the MEAC is kinda a collar-tuggingly uncomfortable statement, y'know?
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Whether you want to admit it or not there is a pecking order. And the MEAC most definitely is below CUSA, just like CUSA is below the P5. You want to play someone higher in the pecking order, then you play on their home court. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS! No one is saying otherwise. They want to play again, then IT’S AT THE TED! If not, then they can carry their @s! We don’t need the game. This was and always will be a pride game for NS w/absolutely no value to ODU. We won the game and our RPI dropped significantly. NS is not currently and never will be on our level. ODU owns the 757!

(12-24-2017 01:15 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  You guys wanna beat your chests about how ODU shouldn't be forced to breathe the same air as Norfolk State? Then don't trail them with less than eight minutes left and don't beat them less impressively than Bowling Green, Little Rock and Robert Morris.

You guys wanna complain about playing NSU in anything but a buy game? Then don't say a word when P5 programs big-time ODU at every turn, because they're playing the same game.

And for those of you who explicitly say that ODU shouldn't play any MEAC schools without mentioning other similarly performing conferences, well ... that ****'s just not cool. Or shouldn't be. It's one thing to say "hey, don't play so many low-majors" or "do we need five games from the same conference" or whatever. But singling out the MEAC is kinda a collar-tuggingly uncomfortable statement, y'know?

(12-24-2017 09:28 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  [quote='Cyniclone' pid='14928465' dateline='1514139304']

Whether you want to admit it or not there is a pecking order. And the MEAC most definitely is below CUSA, just like CUSA is below the P5. You want to play someone higher in the pecking order, then you play on their home court. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS! No one is saying otherwise. They want to play again, then IT’S AT THE TED! If not, then they can carry their @s! We don’t need the game. This was and always will be a pride game for NS w/absolutely no value to ODU. We won the game and our RPI dropped significantly. NS is not currently and never will be on our level. ODU owns the 757!

(12-24-2017 09:35 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(12-24-2017 01:15 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  You guys wanna beat your chests about how ODU shouldn't be forced to breathe the same air as Norfolk State? Then don't trail them with less than eight minutes left and don't beat them less impressively than Bowling Green, Little Rock and Robert Morris.

You guys wanna complain about playing NSU in anything but a buy game? Then don't say a word when P5 programs big-time ODU at every turn, because they're playing the same game.

And for those of you who explicitly say that ODU shouldn't play any MEAC schools without mentioning other similarly performing conferences, well ... that ****'s just not cool. Or shouldn't be. It's one thing to say "hey, don't play so many low-majors" or "do we need five games from the same conference" or whatever. But singling out the MEAC is kinda a collar-tuggingly uncomfortable statement, y'know?

(12-24-2017 09:28 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  [quote='Cyniclone' pid='14928465' dateline='1514139304']

Whether you want to admit it or not there is a pecking order. And the MEAC most definitely is below CUSA, just like CUSA is below the P5. You want to play someone higher in the pecking order, then you play on their home court. THAT IS THE WAY IT IS! No one is saying otherwise. They want to play again, then IT’S AT THE TED! If not, then they can carry their @s! We don’t need the game. This was and always will be a pride game for NS w/absolutely no value to ODU. We won the game and our RPI dropped significantly. NS is not currently and never will be on our level. ODU owns the 757!

And of course, they played their very best against us, and our guys were feeling the pressure. NS’s coach wants this game b/c he wants to prove they’re on the same level. Here is the fact: THEY ARE NOT! They need to start by focusing on beating the DIII schools on their schedule.