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Programs sustain success by beating top teams (TCU, Boise, Gonzaga, Butler). Those programs then started getting the recruits and fan support necessary to raise their talent level and donations. Otherwise, gaudy records are short lived (Fresno, Marshall).

2005-2011 TCU (entire MW tenure)
6-4 vs Top 10
4-0 vs 11-25

No one held it against TCU losing to top 10 Texas, but top 10 wins like Oklahoma & Wisconsin earned the Horned Frogs the big ticket.

2006-2011 Boise State beat top 20 teams Georgia, Virginia Tech, Utah, Oklahoma, Oregon (x2) and.....#3 TCU. They lost a few on the way, but everyone remembers those wins and few remember the losses.
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(12-17-2017 03:26 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Programs sustain success by beating top teams (TCU, Boise, Gonzaga, Butler). Those programs then started getting the recruits and fan support necessary to raise their talent level and donations. Otherwise, gaudy records are short lived (Fresno, Marshall).

2005-2011 TCU (entire MW tenure)
6-4 vs Top 10
4-0 vs 11-25

No one held it against TCU losing to top 10 Texas, but top 10 wins like Oklahoma & Wisconsin earned the Horned Frogs the big ticket.

2006-2011 Boise State beat top 20 teams Georgia, Virginia Tech, Utah, Oklahoma, Oregon (x2) and.....#3 TCU. They lost a few on the way, but everyone remembers those wins and few remember the losses.

We were capable a few years ago, but not now. Tcu and boise definitely have better fan support. I think a dome would legitimize our crowds. No kids are freezing their ass off through halftime.
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(12-17-2017 10:33 AM)golf4501 Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

That's was my guess as frank just signed up Dec 1st, but I believe MD was banned a few days after that?

Hopefully it will be taken care of by the moderators, if it gets out of hand again.
Hmm, what did I miss?

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(12-17-2017 08:16 PM)sarasotahuskie Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:33 AM)golf4501 Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

That's was my guess as frank just signed up Dec 1st, but I believe MD was banned a few days after that?

Hopefully it will be taken care of by the moderators, if it gets out of hand again.
Hmm, what did I miss?

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Wait you guys literally banned someone?! Haha
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(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

03-lmfao I don't know Frank & I don't know MD02. But I do know Frank is NOT MD02....03-lmfao
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(12-16-2017 02:28 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Next year will be ugly. I prefer an easier ooc schedule so we can try and run the table, get ranked, and get an access bowl. You guys are nuts for liking next year's schedule.

No. Give me the toughest competition. To be the best, you have to play the best. To bring the program to the next level, we need big wins against the big boys. Oh, what could have been had we beaten Ohio State...!
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(12-17-2017 08:46 PM)Spudskie Wrote:  
(12-16-2017 02:28 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Next year will be ugly. I prefer an easier ooc schedule so we can try and run the table, get ranked, and get an access bowl. You guys are nuts for liking next year's schedule.

No. Give me the toughest competition. To be the best, you have to play the best. To bring the program to the next level, we need big wins against the big boys. Oh, what could have been had we beaten Ohio State...!

It only matters when you can stack it up with a perfect or almost perfect season. Hence scheduling correctly. If we best Ohio st. And go 8-4 and lose in a bowl you think that's successful?

Those boise st and you teams that upset teams also had double digit win seasons and won bowl games.
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I dont think Frank is MD, i can smell MD rationalization.
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(12-17-2017 08:44 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

03-lmfao I don't know Frank & I don't know MD02. But I do know Frank is NOT MD02....03-lmfao

This thread is making me appreciate the days of WhiskeyDick. 03-cloud9
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(12-17-2017 09:16 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  I dont think Frank is MD, i can smell MD rationalization.



You mean nobody else here thinks Carey is below average? Mind boggling
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(12-17-2017 09:33 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:44 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

03-lmfao I don't know Frank & I don't know MD02. But I do know Frank is NOT MD02....03-lmfao

This thread is making me appreciate the days of WhiskeyDick. 03-cloud9

I actually miss him. He was good for a laugh once a week. Pound sand
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(12-17-2017 10:33 AM)golf4501 Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 10:17 AM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(12-17-2017 08:42 AM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Whats the Lol? Pretty obvious the program is not improving with Carey.

I think we'd all feel better with kill, novak, or Doeren going into a tough ooc.

Oh geez. Turning this into an anti-Carey post sounds familiar. Is MD back as Frank?

That's was my guess as frank just signed up Dec 1st, but I believe MD was banned a few days after that?

Hopefully it will be taken care of by the moderators, if it gets out of hand again.
That was the first thing I thought. A new poster with serious issues from the start? And I resent the "Frank" reference, as that is my first name.
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Nice to meet you frank. Are you Italian also?

No issues. Just some things that frusturate me about the program. I hope we don't start off 1-3. It will take 3 straight wins just to get above. 500

Look at wmu last year. @ NW and U of I, home fcs team and beatable G5 Georgia State. They were ranked like 13th I think and made it to the cotton bowl. Where is that idiot who said you don't get access bowl this way?!
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(12-16-2017 02:28 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Next year will be ugly. I prefer an easier ooc schedule so we can try and run the table, get ranked, and get an access bowl. You guys are nuts for liking next year's schedule.

Lets look at each opponent with facts

Iowa finished their regular season 7-5 4-5 in the Big 10, 3 of their conference wins came over Illinois, Minnesota and Nebraska. Played one great game vs OSU but only beat Minny by 7 at home and lost to Purdue by 9 at home. They are beatable

FSU finished 6-6 and needed wins over Delaware St and Louisiana Monroe to get a bowl bid. Beat Duke by only 7 and Syracuse by 3. Yeah they beat Florida but Florida is a shell of what they used to be. They are beatable.

BYU lost to UT St and beat UNLV by only 10(one of the worst FBS programs) and lost to UMASS at home. They are very b eatable. FInsihed 4-9.

Utah finaished 6-6 squeaking to bowl eligibility with win over North Dakota BYU, Colorado and San Jose state. 3- 6 in conference. Huskies have them at home, are beatable.

Huskies should be no worse than 2-2, could be 3-1. NIU has beaten Iowa before
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I'm with you policiious. Definitely think every OOC game is a winnable. I'm not being Pollyanna, but with the O line (assuming Scharping comes back) and D line coming back we have a very strong base. Obviously have to have improvement from the QB position.
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(12-22-2017 11:10 AM)Policiious Wrote:  
(12-16-2017 02:28 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  Next year will be ugly. I prefer an easier ooc schedule so we can try and run the table, get ranked, and get an access bowl. You guys are nuts for liking next year's schedule.

Lets look at each opponent with facts

Iowa finished their regular season 7-5 4-5 in the Big 10, 3 of their conference wins came over Illinois, Minnesota and Nebraska. Played one great game vs OSU but only beat Minny by 7 at home and lost to Purdue by 9 at home. They are beatable

FSU finished 6-6 and needed wins over Delaware St and Louisiana Monroe to get a bowl bid. Beat Duke by only 7 and Syracuse by 3. Yeah they beat Florida but Florida is a shell of what they used to be. They are beatable.

BYU lost to UT St and beat UNLV by only 10(one of the worst FBS programs) and lost to UMASS at home. They are very b eatable. FInsihed 4-9.

Utah finaished 6-6 squeaking to bowl eligibility with win over North Dakota BYU, Colorado and San Jose state. 3- 6 in conference. Huskies have them at home, are beatable.

Huskies should be no worse than 2-2, could be 3-1. NIU has beaten Iowa before
FSU gets one of the best quarterbacks in the nation, Deondre Francois, back so I don’t expect NIU to beat FSU, but I totally agree that all the other games are winnable games.
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One of the best QBs in the nation? The only reason he had great success his fresh year was they had to pay attention to dalvin cook. Is Francois good? Yes. One of the best in the nation, no.

I think Utah is winnable because it's at home, BYU will be a win IMO. It is played mid season so we should have all aspects playing well by then. Iowa will be a close game but winnable. I just don't see us going down to FSU and pulling out a W. One of the better home field advantages with the crowd.

We should be 2-2 for non conf. Could be 3-1. I hope like hell Childers gets to work this off season.
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A few other facts about the opposition i have uncovered;

Iowa will have to replace a 1st team AFCA All American Linebacker in Josey Jewell and they also have a 1st team AFCA All American Defensive Back in Josh Jackson who is a Junior who may come out early. If your selected 1st team AA why would you come back for a senior season when you will obviously be drafted if you declared. Those are huge holes for Iowa to fill on D, not that their replacements can't be just as good but that would be asking alot.

FSU also has a 2nd team AA Dback in Derwin James who is a Junior, he may come out early.

Utah has a 2nd team AA PlaceKicker in Matt Day also a Junior, not likely to leave early. He could put on a show in DeKalb. They also have 1st team Pac 12 Punter in Mitch Wishnowsky(JR) so their Kicking game is one of the best in the country and
Both are likely to return
Utah has 2 2nd team Pac 12 Offensive players in WR Darren Carrington II and OL Salesi Uhatafe, both Seniors could be graduating. Only 1 2nd Team Pac 12 D player in DB Julian Blackmon SO, have a 2nd Team Pac 12 Return SPecialist in Boobie Hobbs, Sr. May be Graduating. So they have holes to fill on offense.

James was FSU's only 1st team all ACC player this season, Seminoles have 1 2nd Team Center and a 2nd team DB Tavarus McFadden both Juniors. They do have a 3rd team DT Derrick Nnadi who is a Senior, may be graduating.

2 of the 4 teams are bowling eventhough FSU should not be because one of thier 6 wins wsas over Delaware St. NIU is not playing Alabama, Clemson Oklahoma and Ohio State, these teams are beatable.
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(12-22-2017 11:37 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  One of the best QBs in the nation? The only reason he had great success his fresh year was they had to pay attention to dalvin cook. Is Francois good? Yes. One of the best in the nation, no.

I think Utah is winnable because it's at home, BYU will be a win IMO. It is played mid season so we should have all aspects playing well by then. Iowa will be a close game but winnable. I just don't see us going down to FSU and pulling out a W. One of the better home field advantages with the crowd.

We should be 2-2 for non conf. Could be 3-1. I hope like hell Childers gets to work this off season.

Yes Francois. You remember what a mismatch the orange bowl was on a athletic level.
Hopefully crowd shows up for Utah to get a hostile advantage.
Byu is on downtick since Bronco left
We won the last one vs Iowa right? They'll be on upset alert looking for revenge.
I want 4-0 but I'll just be disappointed and it will like a depressing year if we don't go 3-1.
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(12-22-2017 03:36 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  I want 4-0 but I'll just be disappointed and it will like a depressing year if we don't go 3-1.

lol.
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