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So when you have the 8th ranked recruiting class in the MAC you blame it on the difficulty of your School of Motel Management??

Western graduating Doctors, lawyers, engineers, pilots, business leaders. Dumbbell Tech is 20 million in the hole because they can’t finance the Clem Caddidlhopper School of Medicine.

How to use the vacancy sign 101. Bait Shop Management 200. Canoe Livery logistics 300. Pro Shop marketing 305.

“We’d have recruited him but our standards are too high

Wait........so Davis didn’t join his brother because he didn’t have the grades to get into University of Phoenix North? Yet he was offered by Iowa and left with a degree. Or maybe Enos was an idiot

Bono needs to up his Alpha

I don't know much about Chip1RO, but he seems to be a very bitter person. As if a Bronco stole his girlfriend at some point or something like that. Every single post he makes somehow has to bash WMU. The way he talks, it's as if WMU is on par with community colleges and CMU is waiting for their Ivy League invite. He's just sad and delusional.

(12-16-2017 03:56 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  I don't know much about Chip1RO, but he seems to be a very bitter person. As if a Bronco stole his girlfriend at some point or something like that. Every single post he makes somehow has to bash WMU. The way he talks, it's as if WMU is on par with community colleges and CMU is waiting for their Ivy League invite. He's just sad and delusional.

It's not just bashing either. There is some deep seeded hatred there. Like on a psychologically disturbed level.

(12-16-2017 04:02 PM)PezKingGL1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 03:56 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  I don't know much about Chip1RO, but he seems to be a very bitter person. As if a Bronco stole his girlfriend at some point or something like that. Every single post he makes somehow has to bash WMU. The way he talks, it's as if WMU is on par with community colleges and CMU is waiting for their Ivy League invite. He's just sad and delusional.

It's not just bashing either. There is some deep seeded hatred there. Like on a psychologically disturbed level.

I agree. There is a general fun "hatred" between the two fan bases like with every rivalry, but he takes it to another level. The type of person that hopes for a tragedy to occur at the rival school.

Hard to believe there are grown men that act like this.

Wouldn’t single him out. They’re 70% slappies. A three game win streak in any sport is the beginning of a dynasty with these guys. Getting any recruit is the mark of a monster class, never mind they were the only offer.

The 8 game losing streak last year when the little ball hog was jacking up 50 was the best.

They can't come close to us in engineering, business, communication, international anything, fine arts, law, or med school. The delusion is real up there.

(12-16-2017 01:46 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  So when you have the 8th ranked recruiting class in the MAC you blame it on the difficulty of your School of Motel Management??

Western graduating Doctors, lawyers, engineers, pilots, business leaders. Dumbbell Tech is 20 million in the hole because they can’t finance the Clem Caddidlhopper School of Medicine.

How to use the vacancy sign 101. Bait Shop Management 200. Canoe Livery logistics 300. Pro Shop marketing 305.

“We’d have recruited him but our standards are too high

New retread enrolls at University of Phoenix North. Khalil Pimplton, a 2017 graduate of Muskegon HS is leaving VaTech. 5’8” 170 pound Pimplton has 4 catches for 5 yards. Hopefully he’ll be able to handle the rigors of CMU.

Check out who happens to be a PHI BETA KAPPA University......Some of you may not be aware of this EARNED honor for WMU...


https://www.pbk.org/web/PBK_Member/Chapt...y_New.aspx

An overview of PHI BETA KAPPA history...

https://www.pbk.org/WEB/PBK_Member/About...1a6b1ed3a6

The fact that cmu is no where wear near sniffing distance of this list tells you all you need to know...

So now Dr. Dumbell wants to compare Med schools.

University of Phoenix North was built on a 25 million dollar loan, that has left them 20 million in debt. It was cobbled together in an existing janitors closet, and is affiliated with a small regional hospital 25 miles away.

Conversely the Homer Stryker Med School was built with 165 million in donations from 3 billionaire donors. It is spitting distance from two world class hospitals.

CMU has become a shabby school.

Its Leadership Institute is more concerned about advancing extreme left-wing ideology than producing thoughtful, disciplined leaders. It has contempt for religion and military. Scary place for anyone who is independent or conservative. No room for dialog.

Granted, WMU has its leftist wing-nuts, but there is room, and respect, for other views.

How can you even compare the two med schools? WMU's is affiliated with two great hospitals in Bronson and Borgess that happen to be right down the road. They also work with the Battle Creek VA medical center and other regional healthcare institutions.

What do they have in Mt. Pee? Jack squat.

(12-17-2017 11:29 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  How can you even compare the two med schools? WMU's is affiliated with two great hospitals in Bronson and Borgess that happen to be right down the road. They also work with the Battle Creek VA medical center and other regional healthcare institutions.

What do they have in Mt. Pee? Jack squat.

They go to Midland.

(12-16-2017 08:06 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  Wouldn’t single him out. They’re 70% slappies. A three game win streak in any sport is the beginning of a dynasty with these guys. Getting any recruit is the mark of a monster class, never mind they were the only offer.

The 8 game losing streak last year when the little ball hog was jacking up 50 was the best.

Chipdip is at his absolute best when taking Chimps down a peg or two. He finds centers of creativity in his brain he didn't know he had. Beckoning back to the Golden Days in our internet forum battles with the CMU convicts.

(12-17-2017 11:13 AM)GullLake Wrote:  CMU has become a shabby school.

Its Leadership Institute is more concerned about advancing extreme left-wing ideology than producing thoughtful, disciplined leaders. It has contempt for religion and military. Scary place for anyone who is independent or conservative. No room for dialog.

Granted, WMU has its leftist wing-nuts, but there is room, and respect, for other views.

Very true. WMU has Democrats for our leadership posts currently, but they're old-school Democrats who believe in accomplishment, values and fulfilling a mission with our university. Not the new-wave Democrats who don't believe in much of anything except intolerance for traditional views.

As a conservative I was initially apprehensive with the selection of President Montgomery, with his strong connections to the Clinton and Obama Administrations. But, I think he values the things I noted above and has a vision for Western. And he's smart enough to know he has to court Alumni Donors from ALL political persuasions.

Per our Medical School, WMU did it right. We determined how much money we needed to run a first class school, then lined up donors for the money and in-kind materials we needed to make that happen. And it was ALL private donors, no state money that can't be relied on for much longer. I'm really proud of how WMU put it together and executed their concept. We're even granting MD degrees, not DO degrees like MSU-hence, we have our niche, we're not sucking anyone's exhaust in the effort to place physicians in the state. Doing it right, right, right.

CMU relies on state money for their Medical School, because the put together the concept very shabbily. Other than to get a Medical school before arch rival Western, they really had no strategic plan. As Dip notes, that school is likely not going to last because they lack funding. I predict the state will ask CMU leadership to fold their school into Western's or MSU's, because currently it's not viable. You heard it here first.

We started out with $100,000,000 from day one and added another $65,000,000 along the way....We took an existing Upjohn downtown research facility, gutted the place and put about $65,000,000 into it. We created a brand new state of the art facility....According to our MedSchool newsletter, we added another $27 or 28,000,000 this year in private donations....
Those folks have no idea of the disparities between our two schools....

(12-17-2017 01:22 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:13 AM)GullLake Wrote:  CMU has become a shabby school.

Its Leadership Institute is more concerned about advancing extreme left-wing ideology than producing thoughtful, disciplined leaders. It has contempt for religion and military. Scary place for anyone who is independent or conservative. No room for dialog.

Granted, WMU has its leftist wing-nuts, but there is room, and respect, for other views.

Very true. WMU has Democrats for our leadership posts currently, but they're old-school Democrats who believe in accomplishment, values and fulfilling a mission with our university. Not the new-wave Democrats who don't believe in much of anything except intolerance for traditional views.

As a conservative I was initially apprehensive with the selection of President Montgomery, with his strong connections to the Clinton and Obama Administrations. But, I think he values the things I noted above and has a vision for Western. And he's smart enough to know he has to court Alumni Donors from ALL political persuasions.

Per our Medical School, WMU did it right. We determined how much money we needed to run a first class school, then lined up donors for the money and in-kind materials we needed to make that happen. And it was ALL private donors, no state money that can't be relied on for much longer. I'm really proud of how WMU put it together and executed their concept. We're even granting MD degrees, not DO degrees like MSU-hence, we have our niche, we're not sucking anyone's exhaust in the effort to place physicians in the state. Doing it right, right, right.

CMU relies on state money for their Medical School, because the put together the concept very shabbily. Other than to get a Medical school before arch rival Western, they really had no strategic plan. As Dip notes, that school is likely not going to last because they lack funding. I predict the state will ask CMU leadership to fold their school into Western's or MSU's, because currently it's not viable. You heard it here first.

FWIW Slight correction to above: MSU offers both DO & MD degrees as they have two med schools.

CMU's med school has a different - and needed - focus. They focus on rural health, something WMU will never do because of our research agenda, donors, and location. What they do up there is needed. It's very different from what we do. You will see our future doctors in the largest research hospitals in the world. Theirs will be specialized into rural areas throughout the country. I'm not bashing them for this, just pointing out the difference. Rural health has long been ignored by our education system.

(12-17-2017 08:23 PM)broncofan1 Wrote:  CMU's med school has a different - and needed - focus. They focus on rural health, something WMU will never do because of our research agenda, donors, and location. What they do up there is needed. It's very different from what we do. You will see our future doctors in the largest research hospitals in the world. Theirs will be specialized into rural areas throughout the country. I'm not bashing them for this, just pointing out the difference. Rural health has long been ignored by our education system.

You raise good points.

However, despite the emphasis, there is nothing that requires CMU med school graduates to practice in rural areas. They are just as free to work in suburban/urban settings, or leave the State entirely, as graduates of any other school.

There is no reason to believe that CMU med school graduates will help address the rural health care problem any more than current graduates from UM, MSU and WSU. Its med school is a "Me too!" duplication and probably won't survive, as previous posters have pointed out.

Frankly, with MSU being the land grant institution with an extension service, you would think it would be the one placing emphasis on rural care.