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RE: Gary Parrish's take on Seth Davis column
(12-14-2017 07:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (12-14-2017 05:47 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (12-14-2017 04:26 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote: (12-14-2017 03:56 PM)bariggins98 Wrote: (12-14-2017 01:00 PM)72Tiger Wrote: Thanks for the transcription. Parrish doesn't like 'Tubby ball' if you want to call it that. No matter the results, he wouldn't like it. Not his style and not something that is easy to write articles about because Tubby is not a media friendly coach.
I like 'Tubby ball'. By Tubby ball I mean the four year guys built up over time. I don't care too much about the big splash recruiting drama, don't follow any of that on twitter, look at rankings, etc.
That said, there are plenty of coaches who play 'Tubby ball'. We could have hired a better one IMO. We have Tubby tho, and I'd love for it to work. I'm a long term thinker by nature. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not trying to change opinions.
Parrish is crapping all over Tubby. Been doing it -by his own admission - even before this season started. I don't care for it. It's lazy IMO. Write an article about the strengths and weaknesses of the team maybe? Or just throw a bunch of gas on the fire when it's good and hot and there are lots of eager faces looking to see how big the flames can get.
Final point - When we fire Tubby and go with a guy more like what everyone wants, I'll get on board with that. I just like this way better. It suits my style.
True, there are numerous coaches, some with less experience than Tubby, that are winning at NCAAT with 3 and 4 year guys and without the 5* splash ala, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas. GP actually named coaches who have a reputation of recruiting the "right way" that still land solid 3 and 4*s. He specifically mentioned Michigan, Wisconsin, UVA yesterday. There are also schools that hired new coaches the exact same time as Memphis hired Tubby. He's mentioned the recruiting wins by the staffs at Vandy, TCU, UNLV, hell even GaTech whose programs were all worse off than Memphis but have somehow been competitive and signed good recruiting classes.
GP is a lot of things, but lazy is not one of them. He has been "crapping" on Tubby because Tubby has run off 3 Top 100 players, demoted a coach that has more Top 20 players in his immediate family than Tubby has signed in the last decade. That's fine if you want to "do it your way", but when you run off "problem" talent, you better replace it with something. You and your staff better be working your ass off to land Top 30 recruiting classes considering the resources at your disposal. This staff was beaten out on the recruiting trail by Ouchita Baptist for heavens sake!! I don't know what's worse, the fact that our staff actually offered a kid who's only other offers were D-3, or that we LOST A RECRUITING BATTLE TO OUCHITA BAPTIST.
The real question is who in the hell thought this would be a good hire to begin with? 65 years old, had won 1 NCAAT game in a decade, who's average recruiting class was ranked in the 60s-70s and we wonder why we have the results we have. You didn't have to be Nostradamus to know how this was going to turn out.
Parrish worked hard on this? Look, it’s plain to anyone remotely associated with the program that we are in decline. Have been for years. Pastner poisoned the well locally. Memphis kids don’t want to come here anymore. Word gets out. Look at his transfers. He signs the Lawson’s because they hired their dad. They would have went elsewhere if he didn’t pay daddy.
Tubby has done nothing to improve this. Kids still don’t want to come here. No one cares about the good years (Calipari).
You mention the Matt Stanley deal. I’m not sure if he was offered, but my guess is that he was. Regardless, the kid totally backed off once he became torched publicly. Commercial appeal article, talk radio. Why would he come here after that? Add that to the fact that Memphis most likely pulled their offer.
I could care less about the Lawson’s. Those guys enjoyed sticking it to Tubby and the program. Blamed his son giving us the middle finger on fans calling him a (inset N word) during games. How about Dedric punching some dude in the face at Kansas? KJ’s classy recording? Dedric running out on his Bar Louie tab (which turned out to be a misunderstanding, lol). This family is a piece of work and I’m glad to see them gone. If they were here, what would they be trying to extort out of the university now?
Tubby has had his share of failures, but getting rid of these losers isn’t one of them.
The Lawsons "stuck it to Tubby" because he demoted their State Championship winning coach and father to hire his dead weight son. I don't think it is extortion to expect the job you were promised. Again, Keelon has more Top 30 players in his immediate family than Tubby has landed in a decade.
Hiring relatives/AAU coaches/high school coaches/play cousins is not against NCAA rules and this happens all the time. Ever hear of Ronnie and Mario Chalmers?? Interesting that Ronnie resigned his position on the Kansas staff 4 months after Mario hit his famous shot in San Antonio.
Question, where does cheating on a National College Entrance exam, making it rain at the Plush Club, inciting a riot on Beale Street, hitting girl friends/baby momma's, Faux Fur Coat Gate, soliciting prostitutes, and theft of Goldsmith's gift cards rank in your morality barometer vs flipping the bird and walking on a bar tab? Do you harbor this much hate for Derrick Rose, Joey Dorsey, Jeremy Hunt, Robert Dozier, Clyde Wade, and Andre Allen as the Lawsons?
You are talking about the antics of about 10 years of Memphis history by a litany of players. I’m talking about one family that stayed here a few years. Also, the antics you mentioned also came from teams that at least played at a high level. The Lawson’s never got us 20 wins.
I watched Keelons 12U team get it handed to them last week. Where are his other offers? He looked out of his league in 12U basketball!
I'm watching Tubby's teams get pummelled at the end of last year, get pummelled by UAB, get beaten handily by Alabama when they are missing half their team and the refs call fouls on them every 20 seconds, and barely beating the bottom of the barrel of NCAA basketball.
Quote:I watched Keelons 12U team get it handed to them last week. Where are his other offers?
I watched Keelon bring Dedric and KJ knowing that he had a direct line to other recruits ranked literally 150 spots higher than any of Tubby's recruits. What have you watched Saul, Pooh, Esposito and Tubby do?
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