(12-14-2017 12:41 PM)karter25 Wrote:  I don't listen to talk radio but Parrish sounds pretty smart. I see comment after comment about how people dislike what he says and how he is a know it all. He has you listening, that's what he wants.

I stopped listening to him cuz he can’t help shoving his liberal agenda down our throats. Stick to Sports man since he’s good as an analyst and sports journalist. Talking about social issues is good but try to stay even keel. He leans way far to the left and anyone else leaning any other way is stupid according to him.

(12-14-2017 12:33 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 10:56 AM)herkermer Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 10:43 AM)mairving Wrote:  Basically just said that he could have written the column and he's been saying the same stuff all year.

Yep. Typical me me me I I I GP bit... He is a shameless self promoter. Cant argue with the results, he has huge ratings. Cant argue with the fact that hes a pompous, arrogant little know it all doosh either. I also agree with his assessment... sadly.

Yep. For me, he's simply someone I just can't listen to.

Me either but you owe it to yourself to read the portion of the transcript posted above.

(12-14-2017 12:45 PM)450bench Wrote:  Sirius radio is a great thing.

You got that right. Some Stern, Beatles, Eagles.

(12-14-2017 12:45 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 12:41 PM)karter25 Wrote:  I don't listen to talk radio but Parrish sounds pretty smart. I see comment after comment about how people dislike what he says and how he is a know it all. He has you listening, that's what he wants.

I stopped listening to him cuz he can’t help shoving his liberal agenda down our throats. Stick to Sports man since he’s good as an analyst and sports journalist. Talking about social issues is good but try to stay even keel. He leans way far to the left and anyone else leaning any other way is stupid according to him.

^^^^this

(12-14-2017 11:56 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Synopsis -

* Tiger basketball is in much, much worse shape today than it was when Pastner left the program.

* Gary could have written Seth's article at anytime this year but chose not to do it.

* Talent level is the worst it's ever been. He tried to warn everyone this was coming but no one believed him. Everyone wanted to believe it was the Lawson's creating the problem. Now, you see the truth.

Anyone who disagrees with Gary about this is either
1.) stubborn to a fault
2.) just trying to argue
3.) stupid

(Yes, he really said that)

* It is astonishing that Memphis fans are actually trying to claim this a good basketball team, because they are 7-2. The Tigers have beaten the absolute dregs of college basketball and have been blown out by the only semi-decent teams they've played. They are terrible.

* Cited Mississippi State fans writing to demand that Gary include them in his top 25 poll. He said, the Bulldogs are undefeated against mid-majors. Let's see what happens when they finally play someone with a pulse. They played at Cincinnati this week and got murdered. This is the same situation as Memphis.

* Josh Pastner's worst Tiger team had a KenPom of # 90. Memphis fans wanted to run him out of town. Unbelievable as it might sound, Tubby's current team has a KenPom of #152. This should never happen to Memphis Tiger basketball. They have too many resources, amenities and advantages in place to be this abysmal.

* This year's team, predicted to be bad, has performed even worse statistically than originally thought.

* Dr. Rudd excitedly tweeted about the great Tiger victory over Albany last night. Is this how far Memphis basketball has fallen, that the univeristy president is celebrating a win over a low-major team from the American East conference? Albany isn't even the top team in that league this year.

* Louisville is missing their superstar freshman this weekend and will be coached by a 32-year old intern that's out of his element. They are a decent basketball team but not a top 25 club. If Memphis somehow manages to beat them, it will say much more about the state of Louisville basketball than anything about Tubby Smith or Memphis.

That's all I got. Brutal.

He’s wrong about Louisville. If we beat them, it’s a good win.

He makes a good case.

(12-14-2017 12:07 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Parrish like stirring the pot. Much easier role than actually researching and writing a well thought out article.

*Have you ever put a minute of thought or research into anything you post?

*rhetorical question.

(12-14-2017 12:49 PM)NJ1 Wrote:  He makes a good case.

He didn't make a case; he simply pointed out irrefutable facts.

There's no stretched thinking required; no leap of faith; no gaps to fill in.

It is what it is.

(12-14-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  With your editorial...why do that? Why not simply restate without your personal leans, especially since some will only rely on what you wrote?

Er... because it was a basic synopsis and not a word-for-word translation? Which points did you feel misinterepreted what he said?

Thumbs up for taking the time for a thorough transcription.

(12-14-2017 12:27 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 12:07 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Parrish like stirring the pot. Much easier role than actually researching and writing a well thought out article.

Did you even listen?

Here's a part of the transcript. It isn't perfectly translated, so it's not precise word for word correct.

It sounds VERY well researched and thought out.

Seth laid out a lot of the things that we have laid out on this show. About misses in recruiting. The transfers. The tigers' loss at the end of last season. How the roster is well below any normal Memphis historical standard. Attendance is well below any normal Memphis historical standard, in fact the Memphis attendance inside FedEx Forum is at an all time low. A modern era low. The lowest of my lifetime and projects to finish that way. As well it's just it's all bad stuff. And I'm not even saying that enthusiastically.

Or I know because it's just all bad stuff. I'm sick. When Josh Pastner was nudged out the door to go to Georgia Tech, things were obviously not good in a variety of ways. Recruiting had dropped off transfers had picked, up the winning had slipped. Back to back misses for the NCAA tournament, none of that is is untrue. But we talked about it at the time. I was on record saying Josh Pastner and Memphis need to divorce. I thought that they were probably gonna have to be like a couple that stays married just because neither one of them can afford to be divorced. But then Georgia Tech's swooped in and Memphis lowered the buyout and was able to nudge Josh Pastner out the door.

Things were bad in that moment. That was a good day for the University of Memphis and a good day for Josh Pastner, I thought. That's all true. This is also true... in every way you measure a basketball program things have gotten worse since then: attendance, recruiting, season ticket sales, rankings-- everything. You know Josh Pastner's worst kenpom ranking ever was 90th. Tubby Smith's first team finished outside the top 100. Right now they're 152. In every way you measure a basketball program, the Memphis program has gotten incredibly worse in every department without exception since Tubby Smith took over.

This isn't even an argument anymore. I don't even understand how anybody could put up a counter argument to it. I can bring you all the numbers, all the facts. You can't argue against facts. At this point if you're arguing against anything that I'm saying you're either just stubborn to a fault, interested in just being different because you like to be different, or too dumb to understand the argument. You pick. It doesn't matter to me. I'll let you pick which of the three.

And what Seth was able to do is share that with a national audience, which is something frankly I had not done. I could've written this Memphis basketball column at any point. I don't have much interest in writing that for CBS sports now. I figure we'll get to a day where I will write it. And it'll have whatever impact it has. I sometimes people say oh you're gonna write another bad Memphis column I've written one that negative Tubby Smith column in my entire life or I should rephrase it I think I might have written one back when he was at Kentucky, but since Tubby Smith has been the head coach of the University of Memphis I've written one negative Tubby Smith--that's the truth-- and it was after the Lawson's left and they were losing all of the transfers and replacing them with sub 150 prospects. And junior college players.

The reason I wrote that column then is because I knew what this was gonna look like in November/December. I'm not a psychic, I'm just also not an idiot. So while some people were trying to spin it into "you know the Lawson's were a cancer and we'll be better off without them and you don't know how good the JUCO players will be". I consistently said you don't know what you're talking about. Here's what's coming and now here we are. And so, the only people pushing back now fall in the one of those categories" too stubborn to a fault, interested in being different for the sake of being different, or too dumb to understand the argument. Too dumb to understand context.

Anybody with a brain who understands the sport of college basketball looks at what's happening with the Memphis basketball program and reaches the same conclusion I reached the same conclusions that Seth Davis wrote. And detailed in that column this morning. There's no other way to interpret it. And yet there are still a few who will jump on Facebook or on Twitter and and there was one young guy on Facebook earlier today, after I posted that davis' column, and he said "Yo they beat Albany last night. They're 7-2 now. So what is the problem?" And the point I've made to him is yeah they're 7-2 but what does it mean?

Georgetown undefeated right now what does it me right now? Nothing. Doesn't meaning anything. When you are high major program with incredible resources who plays these types of buy games now you can make your record whatever you wanna make your record until conference play starts, then you've got to play who the league tells you to play. (Brad) "I watched Mississippi State get blown out by Cincinnati last last night." Another good example. Now Mississippi State has put together a nice record--they were undefeated. I had State fans tweeting me "why isn't state ranked? Because they had not done anything. But they've beaten nobody. Those wins don't mean anything. State might might prove to be a good team but don't let it undefeated record until yesterday make you think it's a good thing then they go play a real team for the first time in and they get handled pretty easily.

Memphis is the exact same situation right now it is true they beat Albany last night. Then I got a message last night--"what are you gonna say about this?" Good, okay I think? I guess I would say beating Albany is better than losing to Albany, so like congratulations. But. Wow if we got to a point where we're Memphis fans are celebrating--if we get to the point at this point you take any win you can take, I'm not trying to pretend otherwise. But if we reached the point wirh Memphis basketball where you're celebrating victories over America east schools and not even like the best American schools. Like you you're proving my points. You're proving my point. The issue with the last night isn't that Memphis beat Albany or that Memphis could've lost Albany. Whatever the result, whatever the result is a forty minute basketball game. The issue if you wanna get right to a core of it is that Memphis basketball was only a one point favorite over Albany. Inside FedEx Forum. That should never happen. Your program should never get to a place where all the metrics and Las Vegas oddsmakers say the University of Memphis is only a one point favorite or two point favorite over Albany. Inside FedEx Forum. Once that point spread is placed on that game that tells you all you need to know about the where the university of Memphis basketball program is right now.

It's what I've been saying for months is what's Davis wrote this morning. But 7-2. Some people are happy with it. Here's what I would tell you about that 7-2 record. The seven wins have come against Little Rock, New Orleans, northern Kentucky, Mercer, Samford, Bryant, and Albany. And four of those seven teams or I should take three of the seven teams were literally missing their best player. If you combine those teams--the seven teams that Memphis has beaten, you get an average kenpom ranking of 205.6. That's what the seven wins have come against. Against teams that have an average kenpom ranking of 205.6.

The seven teams that Memphis has beaten again--Little Rock, New Orleans, northern Kentucky, Mercer, Samford, Bryant, and Albany have so far combined to play eleven different top 100 kenpom teams. You wanna guess what the record is against those top 100 Kempom teams? They played eleven games and you wanna guess what the record is? Eleven games now. 0-11. They've played eleven top 100 kenpom teams--the teams that Memphis has beaten and they've lost every single time. So that's the context of the seven and two record it doesn't mean anything.

It's not even good relative to the very low preseason expectations. Ready for this--here's proof. In the preseason they were ranked at 132nd at kenpom. The University of Memphis Tigers were. 132, which by the way should never be the case of the University of Memphis. Josh Pastners lowest point wasn't anywhere close to 132 at kenpom. The low point where you wanted Josh Pastner fired and were willing to insist that the university should pay ten million dollars to make it happen. They were never close to 132 at kenpom, but that's where they were in the preseason this season. You know they are now after nine games? 151/152.

They've actually performed at a level below what they were expected to perform even relative to the preseason expectations that were already low. They are 3-4 against the spread. They've dropped thirty places in kenpom even with the wins, even by going 7-2. So there's no way to look at this information intelligently and try to spin it into something positive. That's a dumb man's game. I don't mind if you wanna be dumb. Just don't ever expect me to be dumb with you. You can be dumb if you want to and celebrate wins over Albany and try to pretend that the 7-2 record mean something. You can be dumb about it if you want to, just do it got ask me to be dumb with you. I'm not interested in that.

Now the good news is that on Saturday if you want to prove your a real team, you've got an opportunity. On a neutral court against a real opponent. I don't think louisville as good as it was supposed to be. A lot of that have to do with their highest rated freshman was ruled ineligible. And they replaced one of the greatest coaches of all time with a 32 year old first year head coach--you know like that matters. And so I don't think Louisville is a legitimate top ten team or top twenty or right now probably top 25 team. Louisville is still good, they've got good players. So if you think this is a formula that the University of Memphis is using, this is formula to be competitive at the level at which Memphis basketball is supposed to be competitive, at the level at which your program that pays the coach three million dollars a year is supposed to be competitive. Well, Saturday your opportunity to prove it. To be clear if they beat Louisville on Saturday. I will think it says more about Louisville than it says about Memphis. It won't make me change my big views about the Memphis basketball program. But at least you'll be able to say "don't say we can't beat anybody with this roster right doing it this way, we just knocked out the Louisville cardinals in New York." The opportunity's on Saturday we'll throw the ball up and play for forty minutes.

Thanks for the transcription. Parrish doesn't like 'Tubby ball' if you want to call it that. No matter the results, he wouldn't like it. Not his style and not something that is easy to write articles about because Tubby is not a media friendly coach.

I like 'Tubby ball'. By Tubby ball I mean the four year guys built up over time. I don't care too much about the big splash recruiting drama, don't follow any of that on twitter, look at rankings, etc.

That said, there are plenty of coaches who play 'Tubby ball'. We could have hired a better one IMO. We have Tubby tho, and I'd love for it to work. I'm a long term thinker by nature. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not trying to change opinions.

Parrish is crapping all over Tubby. Been doing it -by his own admission - even before this season started. I don't care for it. It's lazy IMO. Write an article about the strengths and weaknesses of the team maybe? Or just throw a bunch of gas on the fire when it's good and hot and there are lots of eager faces looking to see how big the flames can get.

Final point - When we fire Tubby and go with a guy more like what everyone wants, I'll get on board with that. I just like this way better. It suits my style.

Parrish seems to have arrived at his opinion honestly, IMO. I don't think he's trolling for clicks or listeners, so much.

I think he overstates the case somewhat in some respects, but makes a compelling and hard-to-refute case in others.

The great thing about sports is we get to see how it all plays out on the court and we'll see if Gary is right, or if Tubby is right. I can see the talent is not where we'd like it, but let's see how Tubby does once he takes this team, night in and night out, against the rest of the conference.

Gary's a smug little worm....but he's been right about Tubby since day 1.

(12-14-2017 01:00 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Thanks for the transcription. Parrish doesn't like 'Tubby ball' if you want to call it that. No matter the results, he wouldn't like it. Not his style and not something that is easy to write articles about because Tubby is not a media friendly coach.

I like 'Tubby ball'. By Tubby ball I mean the four year guys built up over time. I don't care too much about the big splash recruiting drama, don't follow any of that on twitter, look at rankings, etc.

That said, there are plenty of coaches who play 'Tubby ball'. We could have hired a better one IMO. We have Tubby tho, and I'd love for it to work. I'm a long term thinker by nature. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not trying to change opinions.

Parrish is crapping all over Tubby. Been doing it -by his own admission - even before this season started. I don't care for it. It's lazy IMO. Write an article about the strengths and weaknesses of the team maybe? Or just throw a bunch of gas on the fire when it's good and hot and there are lots of eager faces looking to see how big the flames can get.

Final point - When we fire Tubby and go with a guy more like what everyone wants, I'll get on board with that. I just like this way better. It suits my style.

You're welcome.

My only counter to you're liking Tubby Ball is that Tubby isn't doing Tubby ball.

Instead of LOADING up on frosh this past 2017 class (and maybe a traditional sit-a-year transfer) he went the 2-yr player route. I would have cut him a lot more slack had he just done that instead.

That is the antithesis of "building" a team with four year players.

He could have added a bunch in 2016, too. There are always kids out there in April/May that could become decent 4-year players. Hell, we had 5 open schollies last year.

Memphis will likely have huge turnover in 2019--losing at least six guys, which will require a hard reset. Is that when "Tubbyball" will actually commence? If so, that means his plan won't come to fruition until year six, even though he's only under contract for 5 years.

(12-14-2017 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 01:00 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Thanks for the transcription. Parrish doesn't like 'Tubby ball' if you want to call it that. No matter the results, he wouldn't like it. Not his style and not something that is easy to write articles about because Tubby is not a media friendly coach.

I like 'Tubby ball'. By Tubby ball I mean the four year guys built up over time. I don't care too much about the big splash recruiting drama, don't follow any of that on twitter, look at rankings, etc.

That said, there are plenty of coaches who play 'Tubby ball'. We could have hired a better one IMO. We have Tubby tho, and I'd love for it to work. I'm a long term thinker by nature. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not trying to change opinions.

Parrish is crapping all over Tubby. Been doing it -by his own admission - even before this season started. I don't care for it. It's lazy IMO. Write an article about the strengths and weaknesses of the team maybe? Or just throw a bunch of gas on the fire when it's good and hot and there are lots of eager faces looking to see how big the flames can get.

Final point - When we fire Tubby and go with a guy more like what everyone wants, I'll get on board with that. I just like this way better. It suits my style.

You're welcome.

My only counter to you're liking Tubby Ball is that Tubby isn't doing Tubby ball.

Instead of LOADING up on frosh this past 2017 class (and maybe a traditional sit-a-year transfer) he went the 2-yr player route. I would have cut him a lot more slack had he just done that instead.

That is the antithesis of "building" a team with four year players.

He could have added a bunch in 2016, too. There are always kids out there in April/May that could become decent 4-year players. Hell, we had 5 open schollies last year.

Memphis will likely have huge turnover in 2019--losing at least six guys, which will require a hard reset. Is that when "Tubbyball" will actually commence? If so, that means his plan won't come to fruition until year six, even though he's only under contract for 5 years.

As I said, I think we could have hired a better version. We didn't. I hope he can finish out the 2018 class strong, although that is looking doubtful. Keep the freshmen from the 2017 class, lose Rivers next year, and maybe a couple of the 'less hopeful' JUCOs leave the program, and the 2019 class has room for three more solid additions, etc.

That is best case, and also fantasy land the way it looks now. Could have been interesting. Probably won't be.

When we hire a guy who can recruit next, I hope he can also run a program.

(12-14-2017 11:56 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Synopsis -

* Tiger basketball is in much, much worse shape today than it was when Pastner left the program.

* Gary could have written Seth's article at anytime this year but chose not to do it.

* Talent level is the worst it's ever been. He tried to warn everyone this was coming but no one believed him. Everyone wanted to believe it was the Lawson's creating the problem. Now, you see the truth.

Anyone who disagrees with Gary about this is either
1.) stubborn to a fault
2.) just trying to argue
3.) stupid

(Yes, he really said that)

* It is astonishing that Memphis fans are actually trying to claim this a good basketball team, because they are 7-2. The Tigers have beaten the absolute dregs of college basketball and have been blown out by the only semi-decent teams they've played. They are terrible.

* Cited Mississippi State fans writing to demand that Gary include them in his top 25 poll. He said, the Bulldogs are undefeated against mid-majors. Let's see what happens when they finally play someone with a pulse. They played at Cincinnati this week and got murdered. This is the same situation as Memphis.

* Josh Pastner's worst Tiger team had a KenPom of # 90. Memphis fans wanted to run him out of town. Unbelievable as it might sound, Tubby's current team has a KenPom of #152. This should never happen to Memphis Tiger basketball. They have too many resources, amenities and advantages in place to be this abysmal.

* This year's team, predicted to be bad, has performed even worse statistically than originally thought.

* Dr. Rudd excitedly tweeted about the great Tiger victory over Albany last night. Is this how far Memphis basketball has fallen, that the univeristy president is celebrating a win over a low-major team from the American East conference? Albany isn't even the top team in that league this year.

* Louisville is missing their superstar freshman this weekend and will be coached by a 32-year old intern that's out of his element. They are a decent basketball team but not a top 25 club. If Memphis somehow manages to beat them, it will say much more about the state of Louisville basketball than anything about Tubby Smith or Memphis.

That's all I got. Brutal.

And this is news?

Parrish won’t pass up an opportunity to bash this program. What would you expect from some dude with a lisp?

Anyway, yes the program is in bad shape. It’s been in free fall for some time. It started years ago and it’s still falling.

Yes, this team is limited. I’m not sure what else you’d think when you look at how and when this team was formed. I still like the team and their effort. It’s never a great sign when you are seeing comeback wins against UALR and Mercer. But they did compete hard and did win those games. It’s a long season and I fully expect we’ll take our lumps as we go.

I’ve still enjoyed the games. These December games are usually blowouts, but they’ve been fun games. I know this team doesn’t have the talent to make the NCAA, but they sure give a great effort.

(12-14-2017 11:56 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  Synopsis -

* Tiger basketball is in much, much worse shape today than it was when Pastner left the program.

* Gary could have written Seth's article at anytime this year but chose not to do it.

* Talent level is the worst it's ever been. He tried to warn everyone this was coming but no one believed him. Everyone wanted to believe it was the Lawson's creating the problem. Now, you see the truth.

Anyone who disagrees with Gary about this is either
1.) stubborn to a fault
2.) just trying to argue
3.) stupid

(Yes, he really said that)

* It is astonishing that Memphis fans are actually trying to claim this a good basketball team, because they are 7-2. The Tigers have beaten the absolute dregs of college basketball and have been blown out by the only semi-decent teams they've played. They are terrible.

* Cited Mississippi State fans writing to demand that Gary include them in his top 25 poll. He said, the Bulldogs are undefeated against mid-majors. Let's see what happens when they finally play someone with a pulse. They played at Cincinnati this week and got murdered. This is the same situation as Memphis.

* Josh Pastner's worst Tiger team had a KenPom of # 90. Memphis fans wanted to run him out of town. Unbelievable as it might sound, Tubby's current team has a KenPom of #152. This should never happen to Memphis Tiger basketball. They have too many resources, amenities and advantages in place to be this abysmal.

* This year's team, predicted to be bad, has performed even worse statistically than originally thought.

* Dr. Rudd excitedly tweeted about the great Tiger victory over Albany last night. Is this how far Memphis basketball has fallen, that the univeristy president is celebrating a win over a low-major team from the American East conference? Albany isn't even the top team in that league this year.

* Louisville is missing their superstar freshman this weekend and will be coached by a 32-year old intern that's out of his element. They are a decent basketball team but not a top 25 club. If Memphis somehow manages to beat them, it will say much more about the state of Louisville basketball than anything about Tubby Smith or Memphis.

That's all I got. Brutal.

Thank you for sparing me from listening.

Like it or not, he is a member of the national sports media and thus has some influence on perception. Sometimes I hold my nose and dive into it.

(12-14-2017 12:00 PM)jgardne Wrote:  That's pretty amazing that Pastner's worst KenPom rating was 90.

I am surprised. I thought it would be a higher number (around 120 or so).

(12-14-2017 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(12-14-2017 01:00 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Thanks for the transcription. Parrish doesn't like 'Tubby ball' if you want to call it that. No matter the results, he wouldn't like it. Not his style and not something that is easy to write articles about because Tubby is not a media friendly coach.

I like 'Tubby ball'. By Tubby ball I mean the four year guys built up over time. I don't care too much about the big splash recruiting drama, don't follow any of that on twitter, look at rankings, etc.

That said, there are plenty of coaches who play 'Tubby ball'. We could have hired a better one IMO. We have Tubby tho, and I'd love for it to work. I'm a long term thinker by nature. I know I'm in the minority, and I'm not trying to change opinions.

Parrish is crapping all over Tubby. Been doing it -by his own admission - even before this season started. I don't care for it. It's lazy IMO. Write an article about the strengths and weaknesses of the team maybe? Or just throw a bunch of gas on the fire when it's good and hot and there are lots of eager faces looking to see how big the flames can get.

Final point - When we fire Tubby and go with a guy more like what everyone wants, I'll get on board with that. I just like this way better. It suits my style.

You're welcome.

My only counter to you're liking Tubby Ball is that Tubby isn't doing Tubby ball.

Instead of LOADING up on frosh this past 2017 class (and maybe a traditional sit-a-year transfer) he went the 2-yr player route. I would have cut him a lot more slack had he just done that instead.

That is the antithesis of "building" a team with four year players.

He could have added a bunch in 2016, too. There are always kids out there in April/May that could become decent 4-year players. Hell, we had 5 open schollies last year.

Memphis will likely have huge turnover in 2019--losing at least six guys, which will require a hard reset. Is that when "Tubbyball" will actually commence? If so, that means his plan won't come to fruition until year six, even though he's only under contract for 5 years.

Please tell me about all of these top freshmen that were available after the team imploded? Not alot left in April, and those that are have dozens of offers from high end programs.

Some of your other criticisms are valid, but I think he did a great job fielding a team after things blew up. I think Tubby should have shown this same energy after he was hired, a couple of Davenport type guys could have added depth to that team.

I think he nailed it. It was a good listen. Not a fan Of Parrish but he was dead on this. I been around Tiger basketball since the late 50's and this is bad. I hope we get new direction soon!