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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
(12-21-2017 10:49 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  
(12-21-2017 10:36 AM)axeme Wrote:  Speaking of scheduling, tonight KSU hosts Oregon St. at the MACC. I think this is the only power conference team to play at a MAC arena this year, and I can't remember the last season another P5 team visited the MAC, let alone a PAC-12 team.

I did see that..Do you know how that game got set up? That's great to get them to come to Kent State.

It’s not really clear. They offered KSU a home-and-home with KSU playing out there last year. It’s not like they wanted to pick up another road game while they were in a swing through the Midwest: this is their ONLY true non-conference road game this season (they had a couple neutral site games in a tourney). Why they wanted to fly to Ohio from Corvallis for one game is a mystery. It can’t possibly be that it’s a fair thing to do. That would uncharacteristic of a power conference program.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
(12-21-2017 09:11 AM)BullBoy Wrote:  This league really needs to do a better job scheduling teams. Nobody cares to watch the league play teams like Jackson State and Prarie view. I can’t even imagine fans of those schools do. Buffalo on the other hand will be playing another Top 15 Team tonight when they face Texas A&M.

Well, gee, I guess we should all strive to be more like that beacon known as Buffalo! 03-lmfao 03-shhhh

Oh, and good luck tonight...you're going to need it! LOL
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Why play Jackson St and Prairie View when you could be playing Jacksonville St., Delaware, and Central Penn?
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
NCAA has us with the 21st toughest schedule in the country and 50th in the RPi. I think we know how to schedule.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Schedules are always a bit of a crapshoot. One year Kent scheduled 7 or 8 NCAA teams from the previous year, but they wound up being really mediocre the next season. Looks like UB overscheduled somewhat—if you don’t ever beat any of the better teams on the schedule and only beat the weak teams, what have you gained? But I agree it’s good to at least take a shot at the brass ring even if it doesn’t produce any quality wins. At least you tried which is more than some schools can say.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
(12-21-2017 03:11 PM)axeme Wrote:  Why play Jackson St and Prairie View when you could be playing Jacksonville St., Delaware, and Central Penn?

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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
(12-21-2017 03:11 PM)axeme Wrote:  Why play Jackson St and Prairie View when you could be playing Jacksonville St., Delaware, and Central Penn?

I agree that arguing about scheduling is extremely dumb but can we at least not be intellectually dishonest and equate middling D1 teams and bad ones?
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
(12-21-2017 05:37 PM)GoBullsGo Wrote:  
(12-21-2017 03:11 PM)axeme Wrote:  Why play Jackson St and Prairie View when you could be playing Jacksonville St., Delaware, and Central Penn?

I agree that arguing about scheduling is extremely dumb but can we at least not be intellectually dishonest and equate middling D1 teams and bad ones?

My point was not to imply that the relative rankings of the teams were similar, because that’s not the point you were making. It’s that in terms of interest to MAC fans, all those teams are about equally uninteresting.
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(12-21-2017 03:54 PM)BullBoy Wrote:  NCAA has us with the 21st toughest schedule in the country and 50th in the RPi. I think we know how to schedule.

To do what?
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
By the way, in the broadcast tonight, they noted that this is actually the middle of a 3 game series with OSU. The Flashes will play in Corvallis again next year.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Kansas and Syracuse not up to Buffalo’s standards? Congrats to Kent for getting a P5 home game. Last I recall for Toledo was Alabama during the Cross minute.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Very entertaining game in the first half for Buffalo and TA&M. Fun to watch. UB has 27 of their points from 3 and no points in the paint while the Aggies have 26 points in the paint.

The Flashes knock off the Beavers, but what a crazy end of the game. One of OSU’s guards hit FOUR 3-pointers in the last 30 sec but the Flashes made their free throws to hold on. Announcers noted this was Senderoff’s 4th win over a P5 school.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Buffalo hanging in. They caught a break when A&M’s leading scorer was suspended for 3 games today. They are getting killed inside, but they keep firing 3’s enough to stay within single digits.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Bulls fall 89-73 at #8 Texas A&M.. It was closer if not for late free throws. UB just had no answer for the size of Texas A&M inside.. THats why they are a top 10 team.
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NIU wins at home against UIC 69-63.
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RE: MAC Basketball 12/11-12/17
Looking at the MAC with out-of-conference opponents, in the SAGARIN ratings:

Ball State over Notre Dame is the best OOC win; Ohio over Western Kentucky and UB over UAB are both wins over top-100 teams.

We're really cleaning up against winless teams - with Howard, YSU, Norfolk State, Florida A&M, Coppin State, MVSU, Alabama A&M, and Chicago State, the MAC has 9 wins over winless teams. Maybe some tougher scheduling would help the conference?

5 Kansas 91.35 9 2 UT-L
8 Xavier-Ohio 89.83 11 1 KSU-L
11 Texas A&M 89.44 10 1 UB-L
12 Cincinnati 89.02 10 2 UB-L
20 Oklahoma 87.3 9 1 BSU-L
26 Michigan 85.99 9 3 CMU-L
31 Missouri 85.57 9 2 MU-L
32 Maryland 85.51 9 3 OU-L
34 Clemson 85.03 10 1 OU-L
35 Notre Dame 84.76 8 3 BSU-W
38 Ohio State 84.14 10 3 MU-?
39 Syracuse 84.08 10 1 UB-L;EMU-?;UT-?
41 Oregon 83.51 10 3 BSU-L
53 St. Bonaventure 82.03 9 2 UB-L
55 Southern California 81.59 6 4 UA-?
64 Marquette 80.39 8 3 NIU-L
65 Old Dominion 80.32 8 3 BGSU-L
66 South Carolina 80.02 8 3 WMU-L
73 Iowa 79.02 7 6 NIU-?
79 South Dakota 78.93 9 4 BGSU-L
83 Iowa State 78.61 9 2 NIU-L
84 Western Kentucky 78.6 6 5 OU-W
90 UAB 77.59 6 4 UB-W
95 Buffalo 76.93 6 4 MAC
97 South Dakota State 76.47 7 5 UB-L
98 Indiana 76.37 6 6 EMU-L
101 Loyola-Chicago 76.19 9 2 KSU-L
103 Idaho 76.1 6 3 WMU-L
111 Bucknell 75.7 5 7 BSU-L
112 Iona College 75.61 6 5 OU-L
115 Dayton 75.44 5 6 UA-L; BSU-L;OU-L
117 Jacksonville State 75.2 8 3 UB-W
118 Oakland-Mich. 75.19 7 5 EMU-W;EMU-?;UT-W;WMU-L
120 Ball State 75.08 6 4 MAC
122 DePaul 75 6 5 UM-L
123 Albany-NY 74.88 10 3 KSU-?
125 Valparaiso 74.83 7 4 KSU-L; BSU-W
126 Tulsa 74.81 7 5 WMU-L
132 Northeastern 74.47 6 5 KSU-L
133 Pennsylvania 74.42 7 4 UT-?;NIU-L
135 Tulane 74.14 8 3 UM-L
140 Ohio 73.79 6 5 MAC
141 Eastern Michigan 73.75 5 2 MAC
146 Saint Joseph's-Pa. 73.48 5 6 UT-W
147 Oregon State 73.46 8 3 KSU-W
150 Florida Gulf Coast 73.18 6 6 BGSU-W
153 Marshall 73.01 7 4 UA-L;UT-L;OU-L
160 Central Michigan 72.71 7 2 MAC
164 Fort Wayne(IPFW) 72.34 6 5 UA-W;UM-W
166 Milwaukee 71.89 6 4 NIU-L;WMU-?
171 Toledo 71.62 5 5 MAC
172 Indiana State 71.62 3 6 BSU-W;OU-W
180 Evansville 70.96 8 3 BGSU-L
181 Wright State 70.91 5 5 KSU-L;UT-L;UM-W
183 Western Michigan 70.52 4 5 MAC
185 Saint Louis 70.39 5 6 WMU-W
186 Stony Brook-NY 70.33 3 8 BSU-W
187 Akron 70.33 6 2 MAC
193 Texas Southern 69.68 0 12 UT-W
198 Robert Morris 69.42 6 6 UB-W
199 Manhattan 69.37 5 6 NIU-W
200 Canisius 69.32 5 7 UB-W
204 CS Bakersfield 69.18 4 7 CMU-W
215 Delaware 68.64 4 6 UB-W
216 Kent State 68.58 4 6 MAC
219 Long Beach State 68.32 4 8 EMU-W
221 Northern Illinois 68.01 4 5 MAC
223 Montana State 67.96 5 5 CMU-W
226 Niagara 67.94 6 6 UB-W
227 Austin Peay 67.92 3 6 UM-L
228 Western Illinois 67.81 5 3 MU-W
232 Drexel 67.42 5 6 BGSU-W
236 Appalachian State 67.19 3 8 UA-W;WMU-W
239 Chattanooga 66.79 3 6 UA-W
240 Fordham 66.78 4 6 MU-W
242 Bowling Green 66.69 6 4 MAC
243 Illinois-Chicago 66.66 3 7 NIU-W
245 North Florida(UNF) 66.6 3 9 BSU-W;EMU-L
247 Florida Atlantic 66.5 3 5 NIU-L
248 Campbell 66.48 3 6 BGSU-W
253 Arkansas State 66.34 3 8 EMU-W
258 Tennessee-Martin 66.09 2 8 UA-W
259 Southern Utah 66 4 5 CMU-L
260 Sam Houston State 65.99 2 6 CMU-W
263 Prairie View A&M 65.74 2 10 OU-W
265 Abilene Christian 65.61 4 4 BGSU-L
266 Miami-Ohio 65.43 5 4 MAC
267 Cornell 65.42 5 4 UT-L
268 NJIT(New Jersey Tech) 65.28 5 6 UB-?
269 Central Connecticut St. 65.22 6 6 NIU-W
270 SE Louisiana 65.14 3 6 KSU-L
272 Cal Poly-SLO 65.05 3 8 CMU-W
274 Kansas City(UMKC) 64.87 2 10 CMU-W
275 South Florida 64.85 6 6 EMU-W
283 Cleveland State 64.07 2 7 KSU-W; UA-W;UT-?;WMU-W
287 IUPUI 63.61 1 8 BSU-W
295 Green Bay 63.39 2 6 BGSU-W;NIU-W
296 Mount St. Mary's 63.21 3 7 OU-W
300 San Jose State 63 1 8 BGSU-W
303 Detroit Mercy 62.91 2 8 UT-W;WMU-W
311 Long Island U.(LIU) 61.9 3 8 MU-W
315 SIU-Edwardsville 61.6 4 6 CMU-?
317 Howard 61.46 0 11 EMU-W
325 USC Upstate 59.84 1 11 BGSU-W
328 Hartford 59.39 4 7 UM-L
331 Jackson State 58.78 1 9 BSU-?;CMU-W;UT-W
335 Youngstown State 57.66 0 10 KSU-W
340 Norfolk State 56.94 0 10 KSU-W; BGSU-W
342 Florida A&M 56.02 0 13 BSU-?
343 Coppin State 55.26 0 12 OU-W
346 MVSU(Miss. Valley St.) 54.18 0 12 KSU-W; UA-W
349 Alabama A&M 53.03 0 11 OU-W
351 Chicago State 51.3 0 13 NIU-W;WMU-?
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