(12-13-2017 02:10 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Don't know why people are so high on Bloomgren. Probably the worst hire of all the G5 schools honestly.

There's a reason Alabama, Arkansas, Nebraska, and Florida among others are going away from the pro-style offense. It's not an offense you want to run when you're not usually tops in your conference in talent. Rice probably should've hired KC Keeler at Sam Houston State.

He was interested in the Georgia Southern job and I'm glad we didn't choose him.

I think a couple reasons why Rice fans are excited:

1) Stanford wasn't tops in talent either, before the last 5 years (and even still are probably behind USC and similar to Washington). Bloomgren has the experience and desire to recruit nationally which is something Bailiff didn't do which will improve our talent level. Obviously we'll still rely more on player development within the programs rather than JuCos.

2) He has hired great assistants. He hired the HEAD COACH of a MEAC school who had a better record at an HBCU than Hopson had when he was hired at USM. He ran a spread attack at NCCU, so the expectation is that there will be some spread elements in the scheme. He also hired the DBs coach at Michigan as his DC. That's big time for C-USA.

A coach like K.C. Keeler doesn't have an understanding of what it's like to recruit to or coach at a place that has high academic standards. The Rice job isn't for anyone. It's tough. Bloomgren has been successful at Stanford and he's the heir apparent to David Shaw. Rice made a statement by grabbing him. The university paid some good money.

(12-12-2017 07:38 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  I agree on the Kugler hire, that was a true head scratcher. He was an O line coach, never a head man or a coordinator. But while I did not even think about Dimel, now that he is hired I think it may turn out ok or better than ok. I have to be optimistic because I can't do anything about it.

Dimel was successful at Wyoming and failed at Houston. 3 years for each and the last one was over a decade ago. He has been a solid OC at a very good P5 school in K State. The offense at K State is more of a run oriented spread that can pass the ball. Kugler's offense at UTEP was trying to run over people and that did not work at all. Kugler did not have recruiting ties in Texas or most anywhere else while Dimel has lots of ties in Texas.

Dimel was OC in name only, everything you seen at KState was run by Snyder. If Keeler was truly in play then I would have waited on him if that even meant waiting until Jan 6th 2018, after the National Championship game.

Dimel has called plays for K State the last 7 years and they have done very well. Some K State fans were unhappy with his play calling this year but he was not an "in name only" OC.

(12-10-2017 01:36 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Rice hit a home run.

Rice sure did. The University of Louisiana just hired Billy Napier. That is another home run hire.

(12-09-2017 11:45 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  I'll go first.

1) Dana Dimel - UTEP

2) Mario Cristobal - Oregon

3) Chad Morris - Arkansas

Discuss.

Chad Morris did a damned fine job resurrecting SMU. It was a dumpster fire in terms of talent. The next SMU coach won't have a bare cupboard when he walks in thanks to Chad.
He had to do a total rebuild of that program...so his record isn't flashy. But he is a proven winner.

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Josh is an unknown quantity at this point. A bit early o qualify him as a disaster at this point, as he hasn't been a head coach before

(12-10-2017 01:11 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Tennessee should have saved themselves a lot of effort and just hired Neal Brown away from Troy. I mean, he's 20-5 the past two seasons (named Belt COY) and was OC at Kentucky so he knows the SEC.

that should have been UT's first call and it would have been a quick coaching search.

Tennessee should have offered Chris Petersen $7-8 million per year. That would have done it. He was interested in leaving Washington but not for the same thing he is making there. But they decided to go discount again despite having the highest revenues and highest profits in the SEC.

Otherwise, if they were going to stay with the discount they should have went back to Brohm. By the far the best coach available in that salary range. But with Fulmer making the decision there was no way he was going to bring in someone that runs the type of offense Brohm does much less Brown. He wanted a pro style FB/TE offense and dictated as much to Pruitt in his hiring that he had to bring in an OC that would run that style. The irony is that the guy that they got for OC was the OC under Brohm, but don't expect to see a lot of spread/shotgun. I really don't understand this mindset. I don't know why people that make these decisions are worried about the style of play rather than getting the best coach possible.

they need the highest profits....just a few years ago, they were in debt $200 million.

UT totally should have hired Neal Brown...he's a winner and they could have him cheap.

(12-16-2017 12:47 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Rice hit a home run.

Rice sure did. The University of Louisiana just hired Billy Napier. That is another home run hire.

But is it? What has Napier done? He was fired at Clemson as OC, never the OC at Alabama, just an analyst and WR's coach. Arizona St. certainly didn't set the P-12 on fire this year. Colorado St. went 4-8 the year he was there (First year under Jim McElwain). The assistant pay is big though, I'll give them that.

(12-10-2017 01:11 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 12:43 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Tennessee should have saved themselves a lot of effort and just hired Neal Brown away from Troy. I mean, he's 20-5 the past two seasons (named Belt COY) and was OC at Kentucky so he knows the SEC.

that should have been UT's first call and it would have been a quick coaching search.

Tennessee should have offered Chris Petersen $7-8 million per year. That would have done it. He was interested in leaving Washington but not for the same thing he is making there. But they decided to go discount again despite having the highest revenues and highest profits in the SEC.

Would Peterson really have left? He's been offered SEC jobs before and didn't leave Boise. Seems to me he likes the Northwest.

(12-12-2017 04:58 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-12-2017 12:23 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  UTEPs last 2 hires have been head scratchers to me. At least Kugler was a UTEP guy, with the Dimel hire I just look at it as someone who looks lost.

The guy is 30-39 as a HC 23-13 at Wyoming and 8-26 at Houston. At Houston his teams were 3-8, 0-11, 5-7.

Will UTEP also give him 5 years like Kugler.

I agree on the Kugler hire, that was a true head scratcher. He was an O line coach, never a head man or a coordinator. But while I did not even think about Dimel, now that he is hired I think it may turn out ok or better than ok. I have to be optimistic because I can't do anything about it.

Dimel was successful at Wyoming and failed at Houston. 3 years for each and the last one was over a decade ago. He has been a solid OC at a very good P5 school in K State. The offense at K State is more of a run oriented spread that can pass the ball. Kugler's offense at UTEP was trying to run over people and that did not work at all. Kugler did not have recruiting ties in Texas or most anywhere else while Dimel has lots of ties in Texas.

I wouldn't call K-State's offense exactly strong. Weren't they last in the Big XII offensively?

(12-19-2017 08:49 AM)louisiana_dog Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 12:47 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(12-10-2017 01:36 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Worst:

1) Herm Edwards-ASU
2) Dana Dimel-UTEP
3) Josh Heupel-UCF

Best:

1) Scott Frost-Nebraska
2) Mike Bloomgren-Rice
3) Dan Mullen-Florida

Rice hit a home run.

Rice sure did. The University of Louisiana just hired Billy Napier. That is another home run hire.

But is it? What has Napier done? He was fired at Clemson as OC, never the OC at Alabama, just an analyst and WR's coach. Arizona St. certainly didn't set the P-12 on fire this year. Colorado St. went 4-8 the year he was there (First year under Jim McElwain). The assistant pay is big though, I'll give them that.

By all reports Napier's offensive scheme was dumped during the open date week this year after Arizona State started 2-3. Sun Devils finished 5-2.