You want sad? As terrible as this conference is and as much as we complain there are 39 coaches in this crap league getting paid more than our highest paid assistant.

Think about that. That just blows my mind.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries.../assistant

Our OC only makes $50,000?

Dawson only makes that much because Kentucky is still paying him half a million. That ends after this year so that will have to change.

Hell, think about this.....there are 98 assistant coaches in D-1 Football that make MORE than our head coach! 98 ASSISTANT COACHES make more than our head coach!

Something looks amiss with Shannon Dawson's pay. I just don't think that's correct.

(12-07-2017 06:49 PM)Storm Wrote:  Hell, think about this.....there are 98 assistant coaches in D-1 Football that make MORE than our head coach! 98 ASSISTANT COACHES make more than our head coach!

Something looks amiss with Shannon Dawson's pay. I just don't think that's correct.

that is correct i think. he is drawing the kentucky salary. the more he draws from us, the less he gets from them. so hes about as low as he can with us, so he can collect fully from kentucky, instead. thats my understanding, but i could be wrong.

thats why people are saying he will bolt when the kentucky money runs out.

(12-07-2017 06:49 PM)Storm Wrote:  Hell, think about this.....there are 98 assistant coaches in D-1 Football that make MORE than our head coach! 98 ASSISTANT COACHES make more than our head coach!

Something looks amiss with Shannon Dawson's pay. I just don't think that's correct.

how many are g5???

#applesandoranges

Don't know how we fare as good as we do with how little we pay these guys.

Correct Dawson is still paid by UK like 500k a year. his number will change soon. But damn, Hopson doesn't make much more than that.

It's pretty sad what we are paying these guys. We really have no room to complain about our situation until we are willing to play the game.

We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

(12-08-2017 04:55 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

no.....what he's saying is it's narrow minded to think in a vacuum in lieu of exploring best method moving forward.....

and what too many others have stated (to ad nauseam), is that vacuum is why we are where we are today....

honestly, why would you give a shite at the end of day if one is an alum or not........how about focusing on macro development and choosing the best that is capable and most competent???

I gave the general the benefit of the doubt.....his leadership qualities from the military didn't transfer the public sector......it's not a slam on the general.....it simply wasn't his cup o' tea....

take off the blinders.......it helps....

(12-08-2017 05:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:55 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

no.....what he's saying is it's narrow minded to think in a vacuum in lieu of exploring best method moving forward.....

and what too many others have stated (to ad nauseam), is that vacuum is why we are where we are today....

honestly, why would you give a shite at the end of day if one is an alum or not........how about focusing on macro development and choosing the best that is capable and most competent???

I gave the general the benefit of the doubt.....his leadership qualities from the military didn't transfer the public sector......it's not a slam on the general.....it simply wasn't his cup o' tea....

take off the blinders.......it helps....

man, i try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you keep failing to understand things that people write.

we may have to take this one, one comment at a time. lets take this one first-

"no.....what he's saying is it's narrow minded to think in a vacuum in lieu of exploring best method moving forward....."

ok, stinky;

Giblet. is he a USM grad? answer: no
Mcgills. is he a USM grad? answer: no
R Giannini is he a USM grad? answer: no

anyone thrilled with those guys and think they did great? no hands? ok, well then stinky, looks as though getting a non USM grad has, in fact, been explored, right? answer: yes

therefore, lets disregard your first gibberish.

ok, lets now take this one-

"and what too many others have stated (to ad nauseam), is that vacuum is why we are where we are today...."

again, you have trouble understanding what you read. clearly you do.

your statement suggests that we are in a fix bc we hired a USM grad as AD. i guess you are referring to Gen Hammond. i don't think he is to blame for all of USM's woes. but for a second, lets just pretend he is. ok, now go back and read what i wrote. here, i will post it below for you;

"Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent.." now, if the USM woes were bc of Gen Hammond, then he obviously was not competent. No where did i suggest to hire and incompetent USM grad did i? we have tried getting a competent non-USM grad (please reference above), and that hasn't worked out too well. We have tried an incompetent USM grad (for those that say Gen Hammond was terrible), that obviously would never work out. heck, hiring anyone incompetent will never work out.

Again, im thinking (and i could be wrong) that there is a competent USM graduate somewhere that could do the job. of course, reading posts like yours and rocktherocks, makes me lose faith in that idea entirely.

geez, i cant stop here. lets take your next statement-

"honestly, why would you give a shite at the end of day if one is an alum or not........how about focusing on macro development and choosing the best that is capable and most competent???"

well, mr. stinky genius, maybe bc thats what we have been trying to do (see above 3 listed past ADs) and it hasn't worked out so well for whatever reason. but...we have def tried your method.....and we have failed.

and then this zinger -

:take off the blinders.......it helps...."

ok, now im blind bc i see that the previous ADs have sucked and don't seem to care genuinely about USM. the AD job is just their 'gig" and they want to use it to move up in their profession. hey, i get it. thats the way things work. however, it hasn't been working best for USM going that route. i forget the guy before Richard G. his name escapes me now. but people cried about him too from what i recall.

so my blinders are bc i posit to find a competent USM grad that can do the job? i suggest that you, stinkypuss, are the one that fails to see and remember history and are the blind one.

the reason i suggested getting a USM grad, is bc maybe, just maybe, he will stick around and it will be his dream job and hopefully he will do it well (if its a competent hire). i thought that was clear with my first post, but obviously not to you.

NO MORE ONE OF US HIRES. USM can't seem to find competent alums to run things, for whatever reason. If we could find some competent Southern Miss people I would be fine with this, but we can't do that. Schools like Mississippi State and Ole Miss have done OK with this.

(12-08-2017 06:27 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  I suggest getting a USM grad.

(12-08-2017 07:28 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 06:27 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  I suggest getting a USM grad.

maybe there are no competent USM grads.

(12-08-2017 06:27 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 05:15 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:55 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

no.....what he's saying is it's narrow minded to think in a vacuum in lieu of exploring best method moving forward.....

and what too many others have stated (to ad nauseam), is that vacuum is why we are where we are today....

honestly, why would you give a shite at the end of day if one is an alum or not........how about focusing on macro development and choosing the best that is capable and most competent???

I gave the general the benefit of the doubt.....his leadership qualities from the military didn't transfer the public sector......it's not a slam on the general.....it simply wasn't his cup o' tea....

take off the blinders.......it helps....

man, i try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you keep failing to understand things that people write.

we may have to take this one, one comment at a time. lets take this one first-

"no.....what he's saying is it's narrow minded to think in a vacuum in lieu of exploring best method moving forward....."

ok, stinky;

Giblet. is he a USM grad? answer: no
Mcgills. is he a USM grad? answer: no
R Giannini is he a USM grad? answer: no

anyone thrilled with those guys and think they did great? no hands? ok, well then stinky, looks as though getting a non USM grad has, in fact, been explored, right? answer: yes

therefore, lets disregard your first gibberish.

ok, lets now take this one-

"and what too many others have stated (to ad nauseam), is that vacuum is why we are where we are today...."

again, you have trouble understanding what you read. clearly you do.

your statement suggests that we are in a fix bc we hired a USM grad as AD. i guess you are referring to Gen Hammond. i don't think he is to blame for all of USM's woes. but for a second, lets just pretend he is. ok, now go back and read what i wrote. here, i will post it below for you;

"Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent.." now, if the USM woes were bc of Gen Hammond, then he obviously was not competent. No where did i suggest to hire and incompetent USM grad did i? we have tried getting a competent non-USM grad (please reference above), and that hasn't worked out too well. We have tried an incompetent USM grad (for those that say Gen Hammond was terrible), that obviously would never work out. heck, hiring anyone incompetent will never work out.

Again, im thinking (and i could be wrong) that there is a competent USM graduate somewhere that could do the job. of course, reading posts like yours and rocktherocks, makes me lose faith in that idea entirely.

geez, i cant stop here. lets take your next statement-

"honestly, why would you give a shite at the end of day if one is an alum or not........how about focusing on macro development and choosing the best that is capable and most competent???"

well, mr. stinky genius, maybe bc thats what we have been trying to do (see above 3 listed past ADs) and it hasn't worked out so well for whatever reason. but...we have def tried your method.....and we have failed.

and then this zinger -

:take off the blinders.......it helps...."

ok, now im blind bc i see that the previous ADs have sucked and don't seem to care genuinely about USM. the AD job is just their 'gig" and they want to use it to move up in their profession. hey, i get it. thats the way things work. however, it hasn't been working best for USM going that route. i forget the guy before Richard G. his name escapes me now. but people cried about him too from what i recall.

so my blinders are bc i posit to find a competent USM grad that can do the job? i suggest that you, stinkypuss, are the one that fails to see and remember history and are the blind one.

the reason i suggested getting a USM grad, is bc maybe, just maybe, he will stick around and it will be his dream job and hopefully he will do it well (if its a competent hire). i thought that was clear with my first post, but obviously not to you.

in no way was my response demeaning to you or how we've proceeded in past...it was a simple posit of developing best method moving forward.....if we find one internally that has the capacity to perform based with a well designed/structured goal set, so be it.....

I don't give two shites who they are as long as they have a clear head where we currently reside and what we want to achieve en macro.....what we don't need is another dipshite yes man (ma'am)....

you need to reread what I wrote and calm the **** down son.....

the blinders was a tie-in to the vacuum that simply dealt with your isolationist posit.....

therefore, **** the **** off with that bullshite rant....

(12-08-2017 04:55 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

The ones previously in charge certainly were not.

And it’s damned ironic- you, who proudly does not attend games or buy tickets, posting your opinion in a thread about low coaching salaries.

You may be the biggest idiot in the history of USM boards.

(12-08-2017 08:51 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:55 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 03:09 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:25 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  We need someone that actually cares about USM to be AD, amd not these loser nutjobs looking to boost their resume.

On a serious note, i think Bower would be good. But if not him, fine. Some Usm grad, somewhere, has to be competent and want to stick around. Someone that will take fundraising serious and generate revenue for this program.

I swear, a gofumdme page for a coaching staff would be better than Giblet and crew, and his predecessors.

Last time “one of us” was in charge Ellis Johnson and Donnie Tyndall were hired.

That worked out great.

that settles it. rocktherock says no USM graduate is capable or competent enough to ever be athletic director.

The ones previously in charge certainly were not.

And it’s damned ironic- you, who proudly does not attend games or buy tickets, posting your opinion in a thread about low coaching salaries.

You may be the biggest idiot in the history of USM boards.

boy, you must be running out of lines and desperate. lol

(12-08-2017 07:32 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 07:28 PM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 06:27 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  I suggest getting a USM grad.

maybe there are no competent USM grads.

This board is pretty compelling supporting evidence.