(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

Mo wasn't going to be loyal to us either way. This is a stepping stone job for Mo and was from the beginning I think. I don't know the man, but every thing about the hire screams stepping stone. Personally I think the University not firing after this dismal of a season should make him more loyal to the University than he was before, regardless of the fans pt of view. It is going to be rare to find any coach at this level that is going to have any loyalty to this university or any university in AAC that isn't experiencing some sort of unique perk for being there, such as his home town or his home University. Unfortunately we ran our candidate out of town because he had 5 wins.

(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

I will not be happy with only 6 wins since we play NC A&T and ODU at home. That would be only 5 wins over FBS teams. Not acceptable IMO and Id release him as coach. Montgomery set his bar at being bowl eligible. Nothing else IMO would satisfy me and allow him year 4. Winning all 7 home games would insure his job since one of those would be over UNC.

(12-08-2017 04:32 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

Mo wasn't going to be loyal to us either way. This is a stepping stone job for Mo and was from the beginning I think. I don't know the man, but every thing about the hire screams stepping stone. Personally I think the University not firing after this dismal of a season should make him more loyal to the University than he was before, regardless of the fans pt of view. It is going to be rare to find any coach at this level that is going to have any loyalty to this university or any university in AAC that isn't experiencing some sort of unique perk for being there, such as his home town or his home University. Unfortunately we ran our candidate out of town because he had 5 wins.

No one is loyal anymore unless you go with an Alumnus and we all know the danger of doing that. It is like getting a cute pet dog. You know it is just matter of time before tragedy strikes. Happened with Ruff...Happened with John Bunting at UNC and Im sure others. Beamer is the only real example that comes to mind that made it work till retirement.

All any school can do now is get the most out of the coach while he is there. We can only hope that Montgomery uses ECU as a stepping stone now. That would mean that he proved everyone wrong from this point onward.

(12-08-2017 08:18 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:32 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

Mo wasn't going to be loyal to us either way. This is a stepping stone job for Mo and was from the beginning I think. I don't know the man, but every thing about the hire screams stepping stone. Personally I think the University not firing after this dismal of a season should make him more loyal to the University than he was before, regardless of the fans pt of view. It is going to be rare to find any coach at this level that is going to have any loyalty to this university or any university in AAC that isn't experiencing some sort of unique perk for being there, such as his home town or his home University. Unfortunately we ran our candidate out of town because he had 5 wins.

No one is loyal anymore unless you go with an Alumnus and we all know the danger of doing that. It is like getting a cute pet dog. You know it is just matter of time before tragedy strikes. Happened with Ruff...Happened with John Bunting at UNC and Im sure others. Beamer is the only real example that comes to mind that made it work till retirement.

All any school can do now is get the most out of the coach while he is there. We can only hope that Montgomery uses ECU as a stepping stone now. That would mean that he proved everyone wrong from this point onward.

This is why I'm still not a fan of keeping Mo. After wasting 2-3 seasons of awful, the second he gets to 8-ish wins he's out the door to coach Oregon State or some poo. 3-wins, 3-wins, 5-wins, 8-wins(when the schedule gets to 3 FCS and 1 C-USA OOC), gone.

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This is why I'm still not a fan of keeping Mo. After wasting 2-3 seasons of awful, the second he gets to 8-ish wins he's out the door to coach Oregon State or some poo. 3-wins, 3-wins, 5-wins, 8-wins(when the schedule gets to 3 FCS and 1 C-USA OOC), gone.
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With how we have been, not just only 6 wins but how we've lost games, it's going to take Mo a lot more than one 8 win season to parlay it to a bigger job.

If he can somehow turn it around I'd imagine he's here for at least 5 or 6 years.

This is why I'm still not a fan of keeping Mo. After wasting 2-3 seasons of awful, the second he gets to 8-ish wins he's out the door to coach Oregon State or some poo. 3-wins, 3-wins, 5-wins, 8-wins(when the schedule gets to 3 FCS and 1 C-USA OOC), gone.
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With how we have been, not just only 6 wins but how we've lost games, it's going to take Mo a lot more than one 8 win season to parlay it to a bigger job.

If he can somehow turn it around I'd imagine he's here for at least 5 or 6 years.
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Yeah I can't see anyone of note hiring him after 1 8 win season. The guys overall record is 6-18 and he did not inherit a dog program. I don't think he's capable of turning it around, but even if he is it's gonna take a long time to get the stink of that start off enough that anyone would hire him.

(12-08-2017 12:00 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 11:56 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

This is why I'm still not a fan of keeping Mo. After wasting 2-3 seasons of awful, the second he gets to 8-ish wins he's out the door to coach Oregon State or some poo. 3-wins, 3-wins, 5-wins, 8-wins(when the schedule gets to 3 FCS and 1 C-USA OOC), gone.

With how we have been, not just only 6 wins but how we've lost games, it's going to take Mo a lot more than one 8 win season to parlay it to a bigger job.

If he can somehow turn it around I'd imagine he's here for at least 5 or 6 years.
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Yeah I can't see anyone of note hiring him after 1 8 win season. The guys overall record is 6-18 and he did not inherit a dog program. I don't think he's capable of turning it around, but even if he is it's gonna take a long time to get the stink of that start off enough that anyone would hire him.
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Bingo- I don't think we need to worry about Mo going anywhere. Unless we show him the door.

(12-08-2017 08:18 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:32 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

Mo wasn't going to be loyal to us either way. This is a stepping stone job for Mo and was from the beginning I think. I don't know the man, but every thing about the hire screams stepping stone. Personally I think the University not firing after this dismal of a season should make him more loyal to the University than he was before, regardless of the fans pt of view. It is going to be rare to find any coach at this level that is going to have any loyalty to this university or any university in AAC that isn't experiencing some sort of unique perk for being there, such as his home town or his home University. Unfortunately we ran our candidate out of town because he had 5 wins.

No one is loyal anymore unless you go with an Alumnus and we all know the danger of doing that. It is like getting a cute pet dog. You know it is just matter of time before tragedy strikes. Happened with Ruff...Happened with John Bunting at UNC and Im sure others. Beamer is the only real example that comes to mind that made it work till retirement.

All any school can do now is get the most out of the coach while he is there. We can only hope that Montgomery uses ECU as a stepping stone now. That would mean that he proved everyone wrong from this point onward.

ECU fans tend to live in the past and ignore the reality of the present.
Frank Beamer is a Unicorn that no longer exist. Heck even Steve Logan would not be the same now. He had decent job offers while at ECU but he was not around during the big money of College Sports era that we are in now. If Logan had gotten $3 million plus job offers while at ECU he and his guitar would have been out of town faster than you can tweet Purple !
Ruff is the same. He would have stayed not out of loyalty but out of necessity. If he had finished 2014 in the Access Bowl with a Top 10 finish his press conference to announce his accepting a $3 million plus job would have been full of purple tears about how hard it was to leave but he would have left town in a nano second.

There are roughly 115 Stepping Stone jobs in College Football and we will always be one another reality some for some reason some of our fans cant grasp

(12-08-2017 12:51 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 08:18 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 04:32 AM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  

(12-08-2017 12:17 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 07:18 PM)No Bull Wrote:  How about MO? When is that gut gonna get shiitcanned?

If Mo gets 6 wins next season...you are stuck with him for years.....

Because we have no other choice we hope that Mo figures this coaching thing out pronto. There used to be a time when programs gave a coach some time to figure it out (Frank Beamer was 24-33-2 in his 1st 6 seasons at VT with no bowls & a 2-win campaign in his 6th year as HC). Problem is I don't see Mo being loyal to ECU if he figures it out, particularly after the heat he's felt here lately. Like it or not that is where we're at. Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low that ECU fans may actually be happy with a 6-win season at this point.

As to this thread...solid hire.

Mo wasn't going to be loyal to us either way. This is a stepping stone job for Mo and was from the beginning I think. I don't know the man, but every thing about the hire screams stepping stone. Personally I think the University not firing after this dismal of a season should make him more loyal to the University than he was before, regardless of the fans pt of view. It is going to be rare to find any coach at this level that is going to have any loyalty to this university or any university in AAC that isn't experiencing some sort of unique perk for being there, such as his home town or his home University. Unfortunately we ran our candidate out of town because he had 5 wins.

No one is loyal anymore unless you go with an Alumnus and we all know the danger of doing that. It is like getting a cute pet dog. You know it is just matter of time before tragedy strikes. Happened with Ruff...Happened with John Bunting at UNC and Im sure others. Beamer is the only real example that comes to mind that made it work till retirement.

All any school can do now is get the most out of the coach while he is there. We can only hope that Montgomery uses ECU as a stepping stone now. That would mean that he proved everyone wrong from this point onward.

ECU fans tend to live in the past and ignore the reality of the present.
Frank Beamer is a Unicorn that no longer exist. Heck even Steve Logan would not be the same now. He had decent job offers while at ECU but he was not around during the big money of College Sports era that we are in now. If Logan had gotten $3 million plus job offers while at ECU he and his guitar would have been out of town faster than you can tweet Purple !
Ruff is the same. He would have stayed not out of loyalty but out of necessity. If he had finished 2014 in the Access Bowl with a Top 10 finish his press conference to announce his accepting a $3 million plus job would have been full of purple tears about how hard it was to leave but he would have left town in a nano second.

There are roughly 115 Stepping Stone jobs in College Football and we will always be one another reality some for some reason some of our fans cant grasp

I'm not going to dispute your greater point. I do know that Logan turned down Texas Tech & Rutgers HC offers but not sure how much more money they were offering back then. I only mentioned Beamer to show that sometimes it takes a coach some time to develop. There are always exceptions to the rule however, and not just Beamer. I would argue that TCU was on an equal playing field with ECU when Patterson 1st took over and he has built that program to the level where they have now joined the 'big boy club' and thus can afford to pay him what he is worth. His loyalty has paid off both ways in other words.

Introductory Presser:

Nice. Seems like a good get. I guess we'll find out in 9 months, lol.