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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
(12-06-2017 10:16 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

I was never driving to NMSU or Idaho that is for sure. I will go to CCU when the kids get a little older without a doubt.

What will fix attendance is winning OOC games more than anything. Winning is nice but when you are the lowest rated conference and only winning conference games mainly it loses its luster quite a bit. This is why I even cheer for GagStat and the Appholes OOC.

The CUSA marketzzzz experiment failed miserably but credit to them they were better than us this year. Now with the capped playoff payout having all those teams hedging against realignment hurts even worse. The Sun Belt is what it is right now but we only have to split money with ten teams and became more regional. We have much more scheduling flexibility with lower revenue sharing as well. GS might not be going to the one P5 money game if we had 12, 14 or 16 teams in this conference. CCU, GSU, GS, App, TXST, USA, have all been in the FBS for less than a decade and have a ton of growth ahead of them and were chosen mainly on merit and potential over marketzzzz.

We all know FAU is going back in the trash can when the Lane train departs the station.

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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
CUSA's current line-up was based on bad information and bad guesses about the direction of media rights.

Remember nearly a fourth of the schools who voted to admit UNT, Tech, UTSA, FIU, ODU, Charlotte left CUSA within a year. If ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa had not been contemplating expansion from the viewpoint of their personal best interest it is quite likely it would have looked different in number of schools and schools selected.

Also remember the CFP deal wasn't done when CUSA did the six team expansion. There was a general agreement there would be a playoff but it was still unknown what it would look like or be administered. There was still a debate raging over whether to do a 1-4 field or select 1-2 after the bowls were played. Details like what the non-AQ schools would get out of it weren't worked out.

Even once the details were worked out, they ended up changing with the max base per conference going from $12 million down to $10 million to increase the size of the performance pool.

Finally the TV situation was in flux as well.

Conference USA as it exists today, probably would have never looked like it does had realignment started 18 months later and had it moved faster?

CUSA with USM, UAB, Marshall, Rice and UTEP would have been an interesting dynamic. Do UTEP and Rice head west to MWC in a situation where Boise State and SDSU haven't made their short move to BE/AAC and MWC hasn't backfilled to replace them? Do Rice, UTEP, and USM form a block that creates a South/Southwest conference and leaves Marshall alone on an island? Do Marshall, UAB, USM form a block that forms it into a South/Southeast conference that Rice might join but UTEP is not welcome in?

Everything CUSA's expansion was built in reliance upon has changed. It cannot be surprising that a beat writer is picking up on that tension.
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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
(12-06-2017 10:16 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

I was never driving to NMSU or Idaho that is for sure. I will go to CCU when the kids get a little older without a doubt.

What will fix attendance is winning OOC games more than anything. Winning is nice but when you are the lowest rated conference and only winning conference games mainly it loses its luster quite a bit. This is why I even cheer for GagStat and the Appholes OOC.

The CUSA marketzzzz experiment failed miserably but credit to them they were better than us this year. Now with the capped playoff payout having all those teams hedging against realignment hurts even worse. The Sun Belt is what it is right now but we only have to split money with ten teams and became more regional. We have much more scheduling flexibility with lower revenue sharing as well. GS might not be going to the one P5 money game if we had 12, 14 or 16 teams in this conference. CCU, GSU, GS, App, TXST, USA, have all been in the FBS for less than a decade and have a ton of growth ahead of them and were chosen mainly on merit and potential over marketzzzz.

We all know FAU is going back in the trash can when the Lane train departs the station.

It is mathematically impossible for every member of a conference to solve their problems by winning.

There has to be a plan B.
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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.
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(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

your model assumes fans would even travel to those schools. App has never really traveled well to Statesboro so what will magically change? Regional (east vs west) conferences help the Texas and Virginia/NC schools the the most. GA, FL, AL, MS, etc... will still have a ton of travel.

My preferred conference is based more on athletic and fan support. Heck even reorganizing conferences into more like minded (as GaSt fans like to put it) with an urban vs rural make up. Just because a school is closer doesn't mean I would want to go see them. App fans have been pushing for this regional model the hardest. I can understand why because for them it works. They get quality opponents within a few hours drive. Not only will it boost ticket sales it will save them money. But other schools will have to routinely travel be plane to Florida, Arkansas, etc...

Not a fan of being in a conference (and division) with FIU. Maybe FAU, but not FIU.

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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.


I would never trade Troy for UNCC. Keep UNCC a semi-regular OOC game. Drop FCS games each year and open up the opportunity for a rotation of UNCC and MTSU.
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(12-06-2017 11:28 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.


I would never trade Troy for UNCC. Keep UNCC a semi-regular OOC game. Drop FCS games each year and open up the opportunity for a rotation of UNCC and MTSU.

That works for App, because an App fan designed it. It doesn't work for the other schools. It works for App because it puts App in the middle. There will always be outliers in every conference, someone has to be on the boarder and some will be in the middle of whatever the conference makeup is.
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Any realignment for App that doesn't include GS, Troy and Ark State would be upsetting to me. I don't mind being on a corner of a conference. I think most App fans like the idea of having a conference of like-minded schools, regardless of state/area they are in. A conference with USM/Troy/ArkSt/ULL would A-okay with us, as they are like-minded, even though they are not really drive-able. . But UNCC isn't that desired, much rather keep them OOC.
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(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

I'm not sure it would really. How many of those schools have large traveling fan bases to begin with?

Maybe in a good year a decent group makes the trip, but at 7 hours you're still knocking out a lot of fans. There are a few that have the money and time to travel long distances for away games, but most, unless its a day trip, save their travel for one game a year. (In most SBC cases, the bowl)
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(12-06-2017 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

I'm not sure it would really. How many of those schools have large traveling fan bases to begin with?

Maybe in a good year a decent group makes the trip, but at 7 hours you're still knocking out a lot of fans. There are a few that have the money and time to travel long distances for away games, but most, unless its a day trip, save their travel for one game a year. (In most SBC cases, the bowl)


The bump in attendance would definitely be on the App Fan side. CCU brought 10k more out of the woodwork than SSU.
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Fan interest from an attendance standpoint is dwindling everywhere. With every game on TV or the Internet, in most cases free, attendance is not a priority or necessity for fans as in the past. The days of newsworthy high demand for tickets at regular season games are past even at the big name schools and for many so-called big games. The studio era of college football and other ticketed college sports is fast approaching. As a result financial pressures are going to escalate for many schools. The next 10 years will be critical for college football as we know and love it.
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(12-06-2017 12:28 PM)Fanther Wrote:  Fan interest from an attendance standpoint is dwindling everywhere. With every game on TV or the Internet, in most cases free, attendance is not a priority or necessity for fans as in the past. The days of newsworthy high demand for tickets at regular season games are past even at the big name schools and for many so-called big games. The studio era of college football and other ticketed college sports is fast approaching. As a result financial pressures are going to escalate for many schools. The next 10 years will be critical for college football as we know and love it.

Might be as little as 5 years.
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(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

So you don't think you would get more fans playing App and Georgia Southern than UTSA and North Texas? App would likely have more fans there than Charlotte, and Southern would likely bring a large contingent. I'm sure Marshall and ODU travels fairly well to Charlotte as well, when compared to other less regional schools.
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(12-06-2017 12:26 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

I'm not sure it would really. How many of those schools have large traveling fan bases to begin with?

Maybe in a good year a decent group makes the trip, but at 7 hours you're still knocking out a lot of fans. There are a few that have the money and time to travel long distances for away games, but most, unless its a day trip, save their travel for one game a year. (In most SBC cases, the bowl)


The bump in attendance would definitely be on the App Fan side. CCU brought 10k more out of the woodwork than SSU.

Who uses MapQuest?
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(12-06-2017 12:44 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 12:28 PM)Fanther Wrote:  Fan interest from an attendance standpoint is dwindling everywhere. With every game on TV or the Internet, in most cases free, attendance is not a priority or necessity for fans as in the past. The days of newsworthy high demand for tickets at regular season games are past even at the big name schools and for many so-called big games. The studio era of college football and other ticketed college sports is fast approaching. As a result financial pressures are going to escalate for many schools. The next 10 years will be critical for college football as we know and love it.

Might be as little as 5 years.

The college football bubble has been bursting for a couple years already. It really will only get worse. NFL attendance is down, NCAA attendance is down, and high school and youth league participation is down.

Some of us are happy to be here, but we were 50 years late to really enjoy the football windfall from 10 years ago.
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RE: Conference USA proves again that it’s a failing model
Here's my view

1) I think it would have been simpler to say "Having 10 bowl eligible teams really doesn't solve CUSA's problems"
2) I think that CUSA probably had a better year than the Belt did in football
3) I don't think that any team is going to get everything the want in the case of a split up and reconstitution of the Belt and CUSA
4) FAU getting 18k butts in the seats this year is absolutely miraculous.
5) Any conference 4 garbage teams at the bottom is going to generate higher than average bowl eligibility in the rest of the conference.

CUSA had some real garbage in their league. UTEP, Charlotte, and Rice and ODU won exactly 2 games outside of games between themselves.

So lets just throw out FCA and garbage wins and see where CUSA lands without the bottom feeders

So, now lets look at CUSA's top 10 when you remove FCS wins, wins against their bottom 4, and wins versus very bad (2 wins or less) FBS teams

FAU 7-3 -
FIU 5-3
Marshall 4-5 (Kent State was thrown out)
WKU 1-6 (Ball State was thrown out)
MTSU 2-6 (BGSU was thrown out)

CUSA West

UNT - 6-4
UAB - 5-3
USM- 4-4
LTU - 3-6
UTSA 1-5 (Baylor and Texas State thrown out).
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(12-06-2017 11:44 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Any realignment for App that doesn't include GS, Troy and Ark State would be upsetting to me. I don't mind being on a corner of a conference. I think most App fans like the idea of having a conference of like-minded schools, regardless of state/area they are in. A conference with USM/Troy/ArkSt/ULL would A-okay with us, as they are like-minded, even though they are not really drive-able. . But UNCC isn't that desired, much rather keep them OOC.

I have grown to quite like the Sun Belt membership over these last 4 years. If realignment were to happen, I'd prefer we just try to take USM, Marshall, and maybe ODU from the CUSA and call it a day.
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(12-06-2017 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

I'm not sure it would really. How many of those schools have large traveling fan bases to begin with?

Maybe in a good year a decent group makes the trip, but at 7 hours you're still knocking out a lot of fans. There are a few that have the money and time to travel long distances for away games, but most, unless its a day trip, save their travel for one game a year. (In most SBC cases, the bowl)

I’m not seeing it either. Like I said, I’ll give you one short trip, but 5-7 hrs is still hard on a lot of fans. The newness wears off quickly.
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(12-06-2017 12:47 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

So you don't think you would get more fans playing App and Georgia Southern than UTSA and North Texas? App would likely have more fans there than Charlotte, and Southern would likely bring a large contingent. I'm sure Marshall and ODU travels fairly well to Charlotte as well, when compared to other less regional schools.

With the broad tv coverage nowadays, I just can’t see fans making that 5 hr drive with regularity.

With MTSU, 4-5 hr drive for most in the Jonesboro area, we may have had 200-300 more fans than the usual traveling base. That’s really not gonna boost your attendance.

Our fan bases need to figure out how to get their own fans to the stadium...not dream of these large traveling fan bases that don’t exist....unless you play Army, Navy, etc.
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(12-06-2017 02:08 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 12:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:18 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Being much more regional conference won’t magically fix our attendance. It will bump it some, but I doubt more than 10%. The average fan might gain one game in a drivable distance.

MapQuest mileage from Boone
Troy 8 hrs vs Charlotte 2 hrs
A State 10 hrs vs Marshall 5 hrs
USA 10 hrs vs MTSU 6 hrs
ULM 12 hrs vs ODU 6 hrs
Louisiana 14 hrs vs WKU 6 1/2 hrs
Texas State 19 hrs vs UAB 7 hrs
Coastal 5 hrs
Ga St 5 hrs
Ga So 6 hrs

All schools within a 7 hour drive. Yea, that would help attendance.

I'm not sure it would really. How many of those schools have large traveling fan bases to begin with?

Maybe in a good year a decent group makes the trip, but at 7 hours you're still knocking out a lot of fans. There are a few that have the money and time to travel long distances for away games, but most, unless its a day trip, save their travel for one game a year. (In most SBC cases, the bowl)

I’m not seeing it either. Like I said, I’ll give you one short trip, but 5-7 hrs is still hard on a lot of fans. The newness wears off quickly.

Wait a minute! On another thread, discussing Troy bringing more fans to the NO Bowl by a troy fan, I mentioned it was an 8+ hour drive from Denton to New Orleans. Troy fan said that was just an excuse(not to have as many UNT fans as Troy fans).

Now a 5-7 trip in this thread is hard on SBC fans talking about conference realignment???01-wingedeagle
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