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(08-16-2019 12:08 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://odu.edu/news/2019/8/odu_football...Vbig-NKipo

Part 3 of stadium reports

"ODU is the least expensive of any doctoral university in Virginia"... fine, not a bad thing necessarily, but I hate it when ODU brags about being cheap. People know you get what you pay for, and to me it positions ODU as the "Dollar General" of universities. I don't think you want your main branding differentiators to be "cheap" and "diverse". Raise tuition a little and invest that money into top level professors, high tech classrooms, innovation labs, a new student center, improved student experiences and service, more dorms and increased security/police force.

And it is impressive they did the stadium on time.

(08-16-2019 12:39 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 12:08 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://odu.edu/news/2019/8/odu_football...Vbig-NKipo

Part 3 of stadium reports

"ODU is the least expensive of any doctoral university in Virginia"... fine, not a bad thing necessarily, but I hate it when ODU brags about being cheap. People know you get what you pay for, and to me it positions ODU as the "Dollar General" of universities. I don't think you want your main branding differentiators to be "cheap" and "diverse". Raise tuition a little and invest that money into top level professors, high tech classrooms, innovation labs, a new student center, improved student experiences and service, more dorms and increased security/police force.

And it is impressive they did the stadium on time.

I suppose, but in a time where student debt is through the roof and students are becoming less able to afford to go to college it might be all someone needs to see in order to choose ODU over somewhere else.

I don't know. I hear a lot of complaining about out of control student debt, but don't see a lot of downward pressure being exerted on the cost of college by the choices of students. The fact is the system is broken in such a way that it encourages kids that have know idea what they are doing financially to choose a path that will leave them saddled with a ton of debt before they realize the consequences of that, then nobody wants to point the finger back at the university that are charging an unreasonable amount for what should be the simple task of providing an education. They just look at government and ask what are you going to do about all this debt. Never do they point the finger where the problem actually lies.

(08-16-2019 01:59 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I don't know. I hear a lot of complaining about out of control student debt, but don't see a lot of downward pressure being exerted on the cost of college by the choices of students. The fact is the system is broken in such a way that it encourages kids that have know idea what they are doing financially to choose a path that will leave them saddled with a ton of debt before they realize the consequences of that, then nobody wants to point the finger back at the university that are charging an unreasonable amount for what should be the simple task of providing an education. They just look at government and ask what are you going to do about all this debt. Never do they point the finger where the problem actually lies.

So then isn't it a good thing that ODU doesn't charge as much as other universities? Wouldn't that make it a better custodian of public funds and help it be an institution capable of true upward social mobility?

(08-16-2019 02:04 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 01:59 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I don't know. I hear a lot of complaining about out of control student debt, but don't see a lot of downward pressure being exerted on the cost of college by the choices of students. The fact is the system is broken in such a way that it encourages kids that have know idea what they are doing financially to choose a path that will leave them saddled with a ton of debt before they realize the consequences of that, then nobody wants to point the finger back at the university that are charging an unreasonable amount for what should be the simple task of providing an education. They just look at government and ask what are you going to do about all this debt. Never do they point the finger where the problem actually lies.

So then isn't it a good thing that ODU doesn't charge as much as other universities? Wouldn't that make it a better custodian of public funds and help it be an institution capable of true upward social mobility?

First, I don't think a SCHOOL'S mission is to foster social mobility. Its mission is to educate.

Second, with the system as it is, ODU and all of its graduates are affected by its reputation, therefor the importance of reputation unfortunately outweighs the importance of cost mitigation under the existing (broken) system.

Third, the issue with cost is the arms race that has been created by unfettered access to unlimited, guaranteed student loans for anyone at any time. There are no market pressures on universities because the prospective students can and will pay whatever the universities decide to charge. Let's face it, that new Student Center with the water slide attracts students and causes 17 year old kids to ignore the fact that they are going to have $200,000 in debt when they graduate. As a result schools raise tuition, build the amusement park, and get more applications. It's a vicious cycle and it will not be remedied until someone points the finger at the student loan programs and figures out how to change them in a meaningful way. The reality is that there is no way you can convince me that it costs $50,000 a year to educate undergrads.

Psssssss (Stadium thread)

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(08-16-2019 03:12 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 02:04 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 01:59 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  I don't know. I hear a lot of complaining about out of control student debt, but don't see a lot of downward pressure being exerted on the cost of college by the choices of students. The fact is the system is broken in such a way that it encourages kids that have know idea what they are doing financially to choose a path that will leave them saddled with a ton of debt before they realize the consequences of that, then nobody wants to point the finger back at the university that are charging an unreasonable amount for what should be the simple task of providing an education. They just look at government and ask what are you going to do about all this debt. Never do they point the finger where the problem actually lies.

So then isn't it a good thing that ODU doesn't charge as much as other universities? Wouldn't that make it a better custodian of public funds and help it be an institution capable of true upward social mobility?

First, I don't think a SCHOOL'S mission is to foster social mobility. Its mission is to educate.

Second, with the system as it is, ODU and all of its graduates are affected by its reputation, therefor the importance of reputation unfortunately outweighs the importance of cost mitigation under the existing (broken) system.

Third, the issue with cost is the arms race that has been created by unfettered access to unlimited, guaranteed student loans for anyone at any time. There are no market pressures on universities because the prospective students can and will pay whatever the universities decide to charge. Let's face it, that new Student Center with the water slide attracts students and causes 17 year old kids to ignore the fact that they are going to have $200,000 in debt when they graduate. As a result schools raise tuition, build the amusement park, and get more applications. It's a vicious cycle and it will not be remedied until someone points the finger at the student loan programs and figures out how to change them in a meaningful way. The reality is that there is no way you can convince me that it costs $50,000 a year to educate undergrads.

I'm getting my doctoral degree in Higher Ed Administration. You would be shocked to see how expensive it is top pay for everything a university pays for. Tuition covers about 1/3 of ODUs budget.

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(08-16-2019 03:18 PM)bigblueodu Wrote:  Psssssss (Stadium thread)

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Most of the time.

(08-16-2019 12:39 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(08-16-2019 12:08 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  https://odu.edu/news/2019/8/odu_football...Vbig-NKipo

Part 3 of stadium reports

"ODU is the least expensive of any doctoral university in Virginia"... fine, not a bad thing necessarily, but I hate it when ODU brags about being cheap. People know you get what you pay for, and to me it positions ODU as the "Dollar General" of universities. I don't think you want your main branding differentiators to be "cheap" and "diverse". Raise tuition a little and invest that money into top level professors, high tech classrooms, innovation labs, a new student center, improved student experiences and service, more dorms and increased security/police force.

And it is impressive they did the stadium on time.

I work for a school similar to ODU, but smaller. We cost 75k a year before aid. A 75k price tag does not make a school high quality. UVA is super cheap as is W&M. I would say people think of them as high quality institutions

Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

(08-19-2019 01:00 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/old_dominio...__level_2/

(08-19-2019 01:03 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:00 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/old_dominio...__level_2/

Thank you!

I'll be in W218 for game 1. Can't do season tix this year due to work but can't wait to see our new home in person!

(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:03 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:00 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/old_dominio...__level_2/

Thank you!

I'll be in W218 for game 1. Can't do season tix this year due to work but can't wait to see our new home in person!

Were single ticket seats set at one price for the whole stadium?

(08-19-2019 02:24 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:03 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:00 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/old_dominio...__level_2/

Thank you!

I'll be in W218 for game 1. Can't do season tix this year due to work but can't wait to see our new home in person!

Were single ticket seats set at one price for the whole stadium?

$40 - $50 for Norfolk St
$50 - $60 for ECU

plus fees around $6-$7

(08-19-2019 02:27 PM)Punk Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 02:24 PM)AimHigh Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:19 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:03 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(08-19-2019 01:00 PM)MonGNARch Wrote:  Does anyone remember the link to the virtual tour of the stadium? I just bought my tickets for opening day and would like to see what the view will be like

https://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/old_dominio...__level_2/

Thank you!

I'll be in W218 for game 1. Can't do season tix this year due to work but can't wait to see our new home in person!

Were single ticket seats set at one price for the whole stadium?

$40 - $50 for Norfolk St
$50 - $60 for ECU

plus fees around $6-$7

ODU is offering 3 games miniplan tickets packages for $105, it's any 3 games with the benches with backrest. That's a pretty good deal.

https://ev10.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerc...=&appCode=

Well they have put Priority Auto Clib signage up, wonder when we'll se S B.Ballard Stadium go up?

10 days until kick off!!!

Any word on the preview tour of the stadium prior to game day?

Looks like they are working on signage on the west side this morning