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Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
There are threads discussing the announced hockey feasibility studies at Illinois and Oakland, but according to this interview with the director of College Hockey Inc there are two additional schools doing studies confidentially.

http://www.themackreport.com/college-hoc...-underway/

This means four of the five planned studies are underway now, leaving only one more available. The story also mentions another 8-10 schools having discussions about a study.

Who might the two confidential schools be and will a second round of five studies happen with the amount of interest?
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
Schools near NHL cities seem to get priority. Buffalo (dropped some sports to prepare for hockey IMHO) and a PAC12 school or UNLV.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 12:46 PM)el_norte Wrote:  There are threads discussing the announced hockey feasibility studies at Illinois and Oakland, but according to this interview with the director of College Hockey Inc there are two additional schools doing studies confidentially.

http://www.themackreport.com/college-hoc...-underway/

This means four of the five planned studies are underway now, leaving only one more available. The story also mentions another 8-10 schools having discussions about a study.

Who might the two confidential schools be and will a second round of five studies happen with the amount of interest?

I know the B1G has been pushing to expand hockey in their conference. Combine that with proximity to NHL teams and I'd guess maybe Maryland or Rutgers. Also, I thought there was some whispering about Nebraska possibly looking to add hockey as well.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 02:36 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 12:46 PM)el_norte Wrote:  There are threads discussing the announced hockey feasibility studies at Illinois and Oakland, but according to this interview with the director of College Hockey Inc there are two additional schools doing studies confidentially.

http://www.themackreport.com/college-hoc...-underway/

This means four of the five planned studies are underway now, leaving only one more available. The story also mentions another 8-10 schools having discussions about a study.

Who might the two confidential schools be and will a second round of five studies happen with the amount of interest?

I know the B1G has been pushing to expand hockey in their conference. Combine that with proximity to NHL teams and I'd guess maybe Maryland or Rutgers. Also, I thought there was some whispering about Nebraska possibly looking to add hockey as well.

Nebraska has a rink and Iowa will soon have one, granted in nearby Coral City.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 02:36 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 12:46 PM)el_norte Wrote:  There are threads discussing the announced hockey feasibility studies at Illinois and Oakland, but according to this interview with the director of College Hockey Inc there are two additional schools doing studies confidentially.

http://www.themackreport.com/college-hoc...-underway/

This means four of the five planned studies are underway now, leaving only one more available. The story also mentions another 8-10 schools having discussions about a study.

Who might the two confidential schools be and will a second round of five studies happen with the amount of interest?

I know the B1G has been pushing to expand hockey in their conference. Combine that with proximity to NHL teams and I'd guess maybe Maryland or Rutgers. Also, I thought there was some whispering about Nebraska possibly looking to add hockey as well.

There has been a lot of talk among the Rutgers fanbase to push for hockey. We have a long running club program that plays a pretty high level. We field 2 teams - ESCHL, CSCHC. There would be strong fan support for a sport that is widely played at the high school level in the rich suburban towns around the state. As with all things Rutgers, the lack of $$ is the tripping point. There isn't a game day suitable arena in the area and ice time at the local rinks is already at a premium. RU would need a major donor to step forward with a PSU level donation - $100m+ - to get varsity programs off of the ground.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
Could LIU Post be adding a DI program? It is advertising now for a varsity women's coach, and doesn't even have a women's club program. It has a men's club team, and that could be elevated and a women's program may be needed to balance Title IX. Nassau Colisuem now has seat for nearly 14,000, but doesn't have that many events.

The Atlantic Hockey Conference needs another team, and NYC and Long Island don't have a college team between them. It would be a cheap way for LIU Post to say that it has a DI team. Always thought Stony Brook or Hofstra would start a hockey team.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
One of the schools doing a feasibility study could be Pitt. Apparently they are looking into it and that is probably only happening if someone is funding the feasibility study. The Penguins apparently would like Pitt in PPG, at least for some games, and that is sported by this Hockey News article: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/articl...inois-pitt

It is very unlikely Pitt would add it unless there is substantial new money coming from somewhere outside of the school to get it off the ground, otherwise it doesn't make sense for a myriad of reasons from $ to Title IX, to Pitt's primary athletic conference.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 10:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Could LIU Post be adding a DI program? It is advertising now for a varsity women's coach, and doesn't even have a women's club program. It has a men's club team, and that could be elevated and a women's program may be needed to balance Title IX. Nassau Colisuem now has seat for nearly 14,000, but doesn't have that many events.

The Atlantic Hockey Conference needs another team, and NYC and Long Island don't have a college team between them. It would be a cheap way for LIU Post to say that it has a DI team. Always thought Stony Brook or Hofstra would start a hockey team.

Looks like they plan to add a DII women's program.

https://www.theicegarden.com/2017/12/3/1...-expansion

I agree, CAA schools like Stony Brook, Hofstra and Delaware, Rhode Island, Towson and Navy (former member) seem like natural fits. LIU would be a good hockey school in NYC, I would also like to see Columbia and Penn add teams to fill out the Ivy but I don't see Columbia ever happening.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 02:05 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Schools near NHL cities seem to get priority. Buffalo (dropped some sports to prepare for hockey IMHO) and a PAC12 school or UNLV.

Buffalo dropped baseball and men's soccer. That's somewhere between 65 and 70 total male athletes and a maximum of 21.4 scholarships.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 11:37 PM)el_norte Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 10:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Could LIU Post be adding a DI program? It is advertising now for a varsity women's coach, and doesn't even have a women's club program. It has a men's club team, and that could be elevated and a women's program may be needed to balance Title IX. Nassau Colisuem now has seat for nearly 14,000, but doesn't have that many events.

The Atlantic Hockey Conference needs another team, and NYC and Long Island don't have a college team between them. It would be a cheap way for LIU Post to say that it has a DI team. Always thought Stony Brook or Hofstra would start a hockey team.

Looks like they plan to add a DII women's program.

https://www.theicegarden.com/2017/12/3/1...-expansion

I agree, CAA schools like Stony Brook, Hofstra and Delaware, Rhode Island, Towson and Navy (former member) seem like natural fits. LIU would be a good hockey school in NYC, I would also like to see Columbia and Penn add teams to fill out the Ivy but I don't see Columbia ever happening.

I wouldn't count on Rhode Island to upgrade anything.
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I'm surprised that so few MAC schools have hockey. I would think that CMU, Akron, Kent, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU could all support hockey and make it a revenue-neutral sport. If a team as far south as Miami (OH) can do it (in a place where ponds rarely freeze over enough to skate on) then those schools should be able to do it.

It boggles my mind that there isn't a single D-1 hockey program in Illinois.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-05-2017 11:32 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  One of the schools doing a feasibility study could be Pitt. Apparently they are looking into it and that is probably only happening if someone is funding the feasibility study. The Penguins apparently would like Pitt in PPG, at least for some games, and that is sported by this Hockey News article: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/articl...inois-pitt

It is very unlikely Pitt would add it unless there is substantial new money coming from somewhere outside of the school to get it off the ground, otherwise it doesn't make sense for a myriad of reasons from $ to Title IX, to Pitt's primary athletic conference.

An ACC/MAC league is just waiting to happen if Pitt and Syracuse start a program:

Notre Dame
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
Oakland
WMU
Miami
Bowling Green

Realize the BC would oppose this unless they got more Hockey East opponents, but an ACC Network could use pregramming.
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RE: Four college hockey feasibility studies underway
(12-06-2017 12:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 11:32 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  One of the schools doing a feasibility study could be Pitt. Apparently they are looking into it and that is probably only happening if someone is funding the feasibility study. The Penguins apparently would like Pitt in PPG, at least for some games, and that is sported by this Hockey News article: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/articl...inois-pitt

It is very unlikely Pitt would add it unless there is substantial new money coming from somewhere outside of the school to get it off the ground, otherwise it doesn't make sense for a myriad of reasons from $ to Title IX, to Pitt's primary athletic conference.

An ACC/MAC league is just waiting to happen if Pitt and Syracuse start a program:

Notre Dame
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
Oakland
WMU
Miami
Bowling Green

Realize the BC would oppose this unless they got more Hockey East opponents, but an ACC Network could use pregramming.

I can't imagine that either Boston College or Notre Dame would actually want that. MAC hockey as a sponsored sport is entirely feasible though, especially if Buffalo's really looking at bringing the sport online and Oakland will be looking for a home. Miami-Bowling Green-WMU-Buffalo with Oakland and, like, Arizona State as affiliates would probably be workable.
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Well Notre Dame disliked the situation in Hockey East enough to get in bed with the Big Ten. Don't think ND especially likes that arrangement either.

Six in a conference is not preferred. Neither the MAC or ACC are likely to get to six or eight..
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I wonder if the minimum for an autobid will be raised as the sport continues to grow.
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(12-06-2017 01:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Well Notre Dame disliked the situation in Hockey East enough to get in bed with the Big Ten. Don't think ND especially likes that arrangement either.

Six in a conference is not preferred. Neither the MAC or ACC are likely to get to six or eight..


The MAC adding a couple affiliates to form a conference is entirely feasible. BC bailing on Hockey East and Notre Dame leaving the B1G (which is actually a really good fit for them in hockey) so they can start a conference with some G5 schools and a couple startups is a big stretch.
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(12-06-2017 01:44 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Well Notre Dame disliked the situation in Hockey East enough to get in bed with the Big Ten. Don't think ND especially likes that arrangement either.

Six in a conference is not preferred. Neither the MAC or ACC are likely to get to six or eight..


The MAC adding a couple affiliates to form a conference is entirely feasible. BC bailing on Hockey East and Notre Dame leaving the B1G (which is actually a really good fit for them in hockey) so they can start a conference with some G5 schools and a couple startups is a big stretch.

Notre Dame played in a hockey conference with Umass-Lowell and DII Merrimack. At least all the teams except Oakland would be FBS. BC hasn't had problems associating with those and Vermont, UNH, and Maine. The hockey world doesn't have many options. BC's option might be to leave the ACC so it isn't forced on them.
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(12-06-2017 06:23 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:44 PM)Bogg Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 01:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Well Notre Dame disliked the situation in Hockey East enough to get in bed with the Big Ten. Don't think ND especially likes that arrangement either.

Six in a conference is not preferred. Neither the MAC or ACC are likely to get to six or eight..


The MAC adding a couple affiliates to form a conference is entirely feasible. BC bailing on Hockey East and Notre Dame leaving the B1G (which is actually a really good fit for them in hockey) so they can start a conference with some G5 schools and a couple startups is a big stretch.

Notre Dame played in a hockey conference with Umass-Lowell and DII Merrimack. At least all the teams except Oakland would be FBS. BC hasn't had problems associating with those and Vermont, UNH, and Maine. The hockey world doesn't have many options. BC's option might be to leave the ACC so it isn't forced on them.

Yeah, BC would leave the ACC, and all that Power 5 money, and sac their football program over its hockey conference. 01-wingedeagle

BC isn't leaving Hockey East and the ACC wouldn't force them too even if it had enough teams.

My guess is that Pitt would only even consider sponsoring hockey if a slot was eventually made available to them in Hockey East or the Big 10.

If the ACC got to 4 teams that sponsor hockey, which is the minimum number that I believe is required by conference bylaws for them to sponsor a championship, I could see them holding their own mini ACC championship at some point during or throughout the regular season (not for an autobid), while BC, ND, and whichever other teams continued to compete primarily in their home conferences. Sort of like some ECAC championships that are still held. This also happens in some Division 2 conferences with split memberships for different sports. That is far as it would go because there is never likely to be more than 4 or 5 ACC teams sponsoring hockey.
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(12-06-2017 12:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 11:32 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  One of the schools doing a feasibility study could be Pitt. Apparently they are looking into it and that is probably only happening if someone is funding the feasibility study. The Penguins apparently would like Pitt in PPG, at least for some games, and that is sported by this Hockey News article: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/articl...inois-pitt

It is very unlikely Pitt would add it unless there is substantial new money coming from somewhere outside of the school to get it off the ground, otherwise it doesn't make sense for a myriad of reasons from $ to Title IX, to Pitt's primary athletic conference.

An ACC/MAC league is just waiting to happen if Pitt and Syracuse start a program:

Notre Dame
Pitt
Syracuse
Boston College
Oakland
WMU
Miami
Bowling Green

Realize the BC would oppose this unless they got more Hockey East opponents, but an ACC Network could use programming.

Agreed. I strongly dislike that ND hockey is in the Big Ten, although it is in first place with an 8-0 conference record and 14-3-1 overall.

I would love an ACC hockey league so that ND could ditch the Big Ten affiliation.

I think that such an ACC hockey league would be great content for the ACC Network.
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I think that the expansion of college hockey is a must. I know that it will survive and will for sometime, but it does need to open up to new markets. The NHL cities could help bring more teams, but also the college towns are the ones that will make the sport grow. We will also need to see college hockey more and more on TV so revenue can be generated.
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