No evidence whatever of any "leaks," just people making sh-tuff up about having a "source."

This board always takes the bait, hook, line and sinker.

So far this morning Football Scoop has information on Montana, Humboldt State, and Southwestern Oklahoma State, but nothing so far on Rice.

(12-04-2017 10:58 AM)Antarius Wrote:  I think we see the amount of time on the clock differently. To me, we have barely any time left and no time outs (maybe because our last coach used them all ). We do not have time for a a first down.
Had we done this 8 years ago, totally different story. we need to win 8 in CUSA to progress to bigger and better things, but we need someone who does both now. We do not have the luxury anymore of a slow build in CUSA

We can see the clock. 2024, the next big shakeup when the TV contracts expire. We don't have much time. But it's like getting the ball on our own 10 wth 2 minutes left, not getting it there with 10 seconds left.

We could have been in 5 consecutive bowls by then. That would put us in a very different position from where we are now.

I just noticed that there were 411 "guests" on The Parliament. Welcome South Carolina fans!

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Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Just saying that most of us Rice fans are skeptical at this point (not necessarily that Roper is coming to Rice, but that if he is, formerowl is the one to break the news), though it does give us something to discuss. And discussing the relative merits of a former alum now in the coaching business is fairly on-topic, whether he ends up at Rice or not.

Stick around, your numbers greatly exceed our own!

edit: Found one other source saying that Roper is coming to Rice...

(12-04-2017 09:24 AM)Ranger Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 09:11 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 09:02 AM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 07:48 AM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 07:06 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Rhoades was anything but a waste of 3 years. He helped change the culture of MBB, and did bring in Pera.

You people are absolutely delusional. The season before Rhoades (with Braun), Rice was #299 in Pomeroy; as of this morning, after Rhoades "helped change the culture of MBB," Rice is #290.

First of all, a lot of season left. Second, the attrition is going to have an impact that can't be ignored; let's see where we are at the end of this season and the next one before we make any kind of judgment.

+1. Pera has done a phenominal job on the recruiting front. Given the extent of attrition, what exactly did you expect from this season? If only Parish could be eligible this year, the fall-off from last season would not have been as severe. But to claim Rhoades was not a quality hire at the time he was hired is revisionist thinking.

Rhoades was a brilliant hire at the time. He did a magnificent job while he was here. But in the end, he left the program little better than the way he found it. Pera came in to find a cupboard almost as bare as the one Rhoades found. He apparently built a sense of belonging to himself and not to Rice. I do not think WRC is knocking Pera.

I think that I agree with you in principle... Rhodes was a good hire by JK (I'm not sure WRC believes that), but the end result was mediocre at best. However, I disagree with the argument that he left the cupboard bare. In spite of all of the player departures, he left with a very competent successor to manage the transition. I don't know if that was at the behest of Joe Kaarlgard or that Rhodes hired the best man available in Pera. But, Pera assembled a decent recruiting class in short order, and I think that is much better than the abrupt departure of our football coach after the 2006 season, for instance.

(12-04-2017 11:22 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:58 AM)Antarius Wrote:  I think we see the amount of time on the clock differently. To me, we have barely any time left and no time outs (maybe because our last coach used them all ). We do not have time for a a first down.
Had we done this 8 years ago, totally different story. we need to win 8 in CUSA to progress to bigger and better things, but we need someone who does both now. We do not have the luxury anymore of a slow build in CUSA

We can see the clock. 2024, the next big shakeup when the TV contracts expire. We don't have much time. But it's like getting the ball on our own 10 wth 2 minutes left, not getting it there with 10 seconds left.

We could have been in 5 consecutive bowls by then. That would put us in a very different position from where we are now.

WON five consecutive bowls

(12-04-2017 11:22 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:58 AM)Antarius Wrote:  I think we see the amount of time on the clock differently. To me, we have barely any time left and no time outs (maybe because our last coach used them all ). We do not have time for a a first down.
Had we done this 8 years ago, totally different story. we need to win 8 in CUSA to progress to bigger and better things, but we need someone who does both now. We do not have the luxury anymore of a slow build in CUSA

We can see the clock. 2024, the next big shakeup when the TV contracts expire. We don't have much time. But it's like getting the ball on our own 10 wth 2 minutes left, not getting it there with 10 seconds left.

We could have been in 5 consecutive bowls by then. That would put us in a very different position from where we are now.

Depends on what bowls. 2024 rolls around and we've been to 5 bowls, won 3,4 or even 5 and they are of the level of the Cheribundi Tart Cherry Boca Raton Bowl ..... we aren't going anywhere.

We need to do the above... and beat some combination of LSU, Texas, ok State, and USC while definitely beating Wake Forest, UH and definitely definitely beating teams like Army and Hawaii. Only then do we even have a hope and a prayer.

This is all predicated on the Big XII TV contract being like the last $EC one was. Which I do not believe it will be. The Big XII is buoyed by UT and OU.. and with the drop in cable subscriptions and the expansion of streaming - carrying garbage teams like Kansas and small market teams like the Iowa's isn't going to bring in the $$$ it used to.

(12-04-2017 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Are we being trolled?

we are 7 pages in and there is no even semi official indication that Rice has hired a coach.

(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:22 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:58 AM)Antarius Wrote:  I think we see the amount of time on the clock differently. To me, we have barely any time left and no time outs (maybe because our last coach used them all ). We do not have time for a a first down.
Had we done this 8 years ago, totally different story. we need to win 8 in CUSA to progress to bigger and better things, but we need someone who does both now. We do not have the luxury anymore of a slow build in CUSA

We can see the clock. 2024, the next big shakeup when the TV contracts expire. We don't have much time. But it's like getting the ball on our own 10 wth 2 minutes left, not getting it there with 10 seconds left.

We could have been in 5 consecutive bowls by then. That would put us in a very different position from where we are now.

Depends on what bowls. 2024 rolls around and we've been to 5 bowls, won 3,4 or even 5 and they are of the level of the Cheribundi Tart Cherry Boca Raton Bowl ..... we aren't going anywhere.

We need to do the above... and beat some combination of LSU, Texas, ok State, and USC while definitely beating Wake Forest, UH and definitely definitely beating teams like Army and Hawaii. Only then do we even have a hope and a prayer.

This is all predicated on the Big XII TV contract being like the last $EC one was. Which I do not believe it will be. The Big XII is buoyed by UT and OU.. and with the drop in cable subscriptions and the expansion of streaming - carrying garbage teams like Kansas and small market teams like the Iowa's isn't going to bring in the $$$ it used to.

Just curious, a hope and a prayer of what?

(12-04-2017 12:19 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:22 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:58 AM)Antarius Wrote:  I think we see the amount of time on the clock differently. To me, we have barely any time left and no time outs (maybe because our last coach used them all ). We do not have time for a a first down.
Had we done this 8 years ago, totally different story. we need to win 8 in CUSA to progress to bigger and better things, but we need someone who does both now. We do not have the luxury anymore of a slow build in CUSA

We can see the clock. 2024, the next big shakeup when the TV contracts expire. We don't have much time. But it's like getting the ball on our own 10 wth 2 minutes left, not getting it there with 10 seconds left.

We could have been in 5 consecutive bowls by then. That would put us in a very different position from where we are now.

Depends on what bowls. 2024 rolls around and we've been to 5 bowls, won 3,4 or even 5 and they are of the level of the Cheribundi Tart Cherry Boca Raton Bowl ..... we aren't going anywhere.

We need to do the above... and beat some combination of LSU, Texas, ok State, and USC while definitely beating Wake Forest, UH and definitely definitely beating teams like Army and Hawaii. Only then do we even have a hope and a prayer.

This is all predicated on the Big XII TV contract being like the last $EC one was. Which I do not believe it will be. The Big XII is buoyed by UT and OU.. and with the drop in cable subscriptions and the expansion of streaming - carrying garbage teams like Kansas and small market teams like the Iowa's isn't going to bring in the $$$ it used to.

Just curious, a hope and a prayer of what?

Not being in the CUSASunbelt among other things.

(12-04-2017 12:18 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Are we being trolled?

we are 7 pages in and there is no even semi official indication that Rice has hired a coach.

Better to be trolled than Rick (G’span) Rolled

(12-04-2017 12:21 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:18 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Are we being trolled?

we are 7 pages in and there is no even semi official indication that Rice has hired a coach.

Better to be trolled than Rick (G’span) Rolled

If a decision really has been made, I see nothing to be gained by delaying its announcement.

Roper has the support of some very influential people in Rice leadership. I can say that with 100% certainty. Whether he's been hired or not, I don't know.

(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  Roper has the support of some very influential people in Rice leadership. I can say that with 100% certainty. Whether he's been hired or not, I don't know.

Who is your source?

(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Antarius Wrote:  ...with the drop in cable subscriptions and the expansion of streaming - carrying garbage teams like Kansas and small market teams like the Iowa's isn't going to bring in the $$$ it used to.

Agree. So what should Rice do to be attractive after the 2024 reckoning (in addition to winning, of course)?

"Forget our negligible fanbase/audience; we are our competitors' entree to recruiting in Greater Houston." ???

(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  Roper has the support of some very influential people in Rice leadership. I can say that with 100% certainty. Whether he's been hired or not, I don't know.

This is my concern, as I referenced in post #60 - that JK's choice doesn't jibe with that of the mysterious "influential" people. If, as has been referenced earlier, JK cut a deal with the powerbrokers to give DB the 2017 season, but, in exchange was given carte blanche to do what he wanted if DB failed, then the powerbrokers trying to exert influence to get Roper hired cuts against that agreement. Or, it may ultimately be proven that any such purported agreement never in fact existed.

(12-04-2017 12:38 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:32 PM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  Roper has the support of some very influential people in Rice leadership. I can say that with 100% certainty. Whether he's been hired or not, I don't know.

This is my concern, as I referenced in post #60 - that JK's choice doesn't jibe with that of the mysterious "influential" people. If, as has been referenced earlier, JK cut a deal with the powerbrokers to give DB the 2017 season, but, in exchange was given carte blanche to do what he wanted if DB failed, then the powerbrokers trying to exert influence to get Roper hired cuts against that agreement. Or, it may ultimately be proven that any such purported agreement never in fact existed.

Agree - any "booster" that thought it was a good idea for Bailiff to return this past season should have their opinion on the new coach taken with a massive grain of salt by JK.

(12-04-2017 12:21 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:18 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Are we being trolled?

we are 7 pages in and there is no even semi official indication that Rice has hired a coach.

Better to be trolled than Rick (G’span) Rolled

Never gonna f*** it up - Rick Greenspan?

Maybe that was his sales pitch that fooled Foreman and the committee? Never gonna f*** it up... never gonna let you down, never gonna turn around and Todd Graham you...

(12-04-2017 12:18 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:48 AM)mrbig Wrote:  Please note that "formerowl", who started this thread and is the only individual claiming any knowledge that Kurt Roper is coming to Rice, only has 20 total posts here, does not have any past history of posting insider information, and does not have any other posters with known insider ties (of whom there are a handful) confirming his post.

Are we being trolled?

we are 7 pages in and there is no even semi official indication that Rice has hired a coach.

I wouldn't go by the lack of frequent posts as a barometer of whether or not a poster has inside info. Perhaps he only posts when he has information of relevance to pass along, and not simply to opine.

(12-04-2017 12:38 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 12:04 PM)Antarius Wrote:  ...with the drop in cable subscriptions and the expansion of streaming - carrying garbage teams like Kansas and small market teams like the Iowa's isn't going to bring in the $$$ it used to.

Agree. So what should Rice do to be attractive after the 2024 reckoning (in addition to winning, of course)?

"Forget our negligible fanbase/audience; we are our competitors' entree to recruiting in Greater Houston." ???

The MWC might care, but no one else. That's the only conference I can think of that would benefit from having a member in Houston.