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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-04-2017 10:01 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 09:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
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(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

he lied

or perhaps is naive and was simply lied to. heart of dallas bowl pays $800k and Boca bowl pays $400k and he's foolish enough to believe the Boca bowl is "premiere". Only one other bowl pays less.

left the link off last post.

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Secondly, Boca Raton Bowl took in C-USA champions already two times before. Out of three seasons. So, at the very least, it is believable that the conference is trying to build it up into the premier bowl.

Well, definitely on its way to being a premier bowl with the Titan match up of Florida Atlantic vs Akron.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-04-2017 09:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

he lied

or perhaps is naive and was simply lied to. heart of dallas bowl pays $800k and Boca bowl pays $400k and he's foolish enough to believe the Boca bowl is "premiere". Only one other bowl pays less.

left the link off last post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...bowl_games

I don't think you understand how the bowl "payout" functions.

C-USA reimburses teams their expenses for the bowl trip and the teams generally get to keep a certain amount of ticket sales (usually up to $10,000). The payouts go to the conference to help offset all of those travel expenses. After everyone who went to a bowl is made whole for their expenses, each school receives 1/14th of whatever is left over.

So don't get mad at Southern Miss if they select a bowl with a lower payout eventually. It doesn't really matter.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
Yea Bowl Payouts have not mattered in years, not sure where some on here have missed that?
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-04-2017 12:44 PM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:58 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 10:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Lets not go acting like any new member in CUSA played a role in CUSA losing that bowl....

The way I see it the Liberty Bowl was lost because the schools in CUSA at that time were looked down on. Not one of the schools added after 2011 played a role in that.

Maybe that should tell you you S. Miss and those left in CUSA in 2010 were not respected? If that wasn't the case then you explain it.

Yes the Liberty bowl after 2005 played a SEC team in that bowl. But don't go acting like it was a top SEC or even a middle of the pack SEC team. Another way to look at it...

Those teams that left S. Miss and the other behind starting in 2006 were the reason CUSA received a the SEC opponent and once Louisville, Cincy and TCU left. The SEC did not see any value in sending their 7th to 10th place team vs CUSA. I believe it followed those schools to the BigEast.

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Liberty Bowl followed Memphis. It's that simple.

WKUYG is mostly right. The Liberty ditched CUSA bc they didn't think CUSA was good enough for them anymore. CUSA hasn't been tied to the Liberty for years now. The Liberty recognized how terrible this conference was becoming and got away from it.

Also, it had noting to do with Memphis. This is the first year in Liberty Bowl history that Memphis has ever played in the Liberty.

In short, the Liberty thinks CUSA sux. In that regards, so does Florida State and everyone else in the country, except some people on this message board. But at least Florida State (and the Independence Bowl) knows that USM is the biggest name / brand in CUSA and that's why USM made the Indy this year.

Correct. Without going back to review the facts I believe CUSA had a ranked team for 4 or 5 years with Louisville & TCU starting to move away from the rest of CUSA when it came to the polls. Then Liberty Bowl was added but Louisville, Cincy, TCU jumped ship and CUSA went 5 years without having a team ranked at the end of the season. That's when the Liberty Bowl went to the BigEast. Then CUSA had 2 of the best seasons since Louisville left. But the Liberty Bowl had already signed with the Big East. Which was a BCS conference at that time.

FSU went to the best bowl left they could get and it had nothing to do with S. Miss. If the Indy bowl was on the east coast another CUSA would be playing FSU. If Tech was sitting at 8-4 they would be playing in this game....unless turning the Indy down in 2012 hurts them in getting the bowl.

But I would say a short 5.5 hour drive and being 8-4 is what got S. Miss this game. If this bowl could have been filled by a 5-7 P5 school vs FSU..it would have

If Marshall had not screwed up the extra point against So. Miss we might be heading to the Independence Bowl, of course had we not collapsed down the stretch we might be in Boca playing Akron... We'll probably never know the backroom poker that was played, because we've come to expect that our conference administration is asleep at the wheel when it comes the doing anything productive in putting our teams best interests first. Hell just look at our patch work media package. You do realize that there are states that have better High School Football TV packages then our conference does. The main point is, it sure would be nice to have a "Prize Bowl" destination so to speak, to play for. Before the CFP if you won the SEC you went to the Sugar if you won the ACC you went to the Orange, etc. Assuming none of our teams will EVER play in the CFP, (not until they extend the field to say 32) Why can't we make the bowl in Boca or St. Pete or Dallas our Champions destination and leave the opponent an "at large" selection? If the best available team that year is FSU you grab them if it's Memphis you grab them. You make the payout more lucrative then on par bowls and this should help get a better name opponent. The Chick Fill-A Peach bowl here in Atlanta did this for years well before it was ever one of the big 6 bowls.

Eh, Marshall was never going to the Independence Bowl. Their reps have already stated they wanted a regional CUSA team that would bring a lot of fans.

(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

I really don't care what FAU's AD says on video, there are very few teams that will willingly go to Boca Raton for their bowl. Most of those teams don't have a big fanbase, so going so far out of the way isn't a big deal. For instance WKU isn't bringing a lot of fans to a bowl no matter where it is, so going down to BR isn't a big deal. Great fun trip and the fans who travel will enjoy it. FAU is right there already. If a school like USM or Tech or NT won the conference, they wouldn't be caught dead in Boca Raton. Absolutely no interest from any fans of those schools.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
Do the big-money SilverSpoon schools even make money on the bowls with the large entourages (state and US legislators, big donors, wives, administrators, etc) that they take ?
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-05-2017 10:44 AM)EagNBran Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 12:44 PM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:58 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:38 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-03-2017 11:00 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Liberty Bowl followed Memphis. It's that simple.

WKUYG is mostly right. The Liberty ditched CUSA bc they didn't think CUSA was good enough for them anymore. CUSA hasn't been tied to the Liberty for years now. The Liberty recognized how terrible this conference was becoming and got away from it.

Also, it had noting to do with Memphis. This is the first year in Liberty Bowl history that Memphis has ever played in the Liberty.

In short, the Liberty thinks CUSA sux. In that regards, so does Florida State and everyone else in the country, except some people on this message board. But at least Florida State (and the Independence Bowl) knows that USM is the biggest name / brand in CUSA and that's why USM made the Indy this year.

Correct. Without going back to review the facts I believe CUSA had a ranked team for 4 or 5 years with Louisville & TCU starting to move away from the rest of CUSA when it came to the polls. Then Liberty Bowl was added but Louisville, Cincy, TCU jumped ship and CUSA went 5 years without having a team ranked at the end of the season. That's when the Liberty Bowl went to the BigEast. Then CUSA had 2 of the best seasons since Louisville left. But the Liberty Bowl had already signed with the Big East. Which was a BCS conference at that time.

FSU went to the best bowl left they could get and it had nothing to do with S. Miss. If the Indy bowl was on the east coast another CUSA would be playing FSU. If Tech was sitting at 8-4 they would be playing in this game....unless turning the Indy down in 2012 hurts them in getting the bowl.

But I would say a short 5.5 hour drive and being 8-4 is what got S. Miss this game. If this bowl could have been filled by a 5-7 P5 school vs FSU..it would have

If Marshall had not screwed up the extra point against So. Miss we might be heading to the Independence Bowl, of course had we not collapsed down the stretch we might be in Boca playing Akron... We'll probably never know the backroom poker that was played, because we've come to expect that our conference administration is asleep at the wheel when it comes the doing anything productive in putting our teams best interests first. Hell just look at our patch work media package. You do realize that there are states that have better High School Football TV packages then our conference does. The main point is, it sure would be nice to have a "Prize Bowl" destination so to speak, to play for. Before the CFP if you won the SEC you went to the Sugar if you won the ACC you went to the Orange, etc. Assuming none of our teams will EVER play in the CFP, (not until they extend the field to say 32) Why can't we make the bowl in Boca or St. Pete or Dallas our Champions destination and leave the opponent an "at large" selection? If the best available team that year is FSU you grab them if it's Memphis you grab them. You make the payout more lucrative then on par bowls and this should help get a better name opponent. The Chick Fill-A Peach bowl here in Atlanta did this for years well before it was ever one of the big 6 bowls.

Eh, Marshall was never going to the Independence Bowl. Their reps have already stated they wanted a regional CUSA team that would bring a lot of fans.

(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

I really don't care what FAU's AD says on video, there are very few teams that will willingly go to Boca Raton for their bowl. Most of those teams don't have a big fanbase, so going so far out of the way isn't a big deal. For instance WKU isn't bringing a lot of fans to a bowl no matter where it is, so going down to BR isn't a big deal. Great fun trip and the fans who travel will enjoy it. FAU is right there already. If a school like USM or Tech or NT won the conference, they wouldn't be caught dead in Boca Raton. Absolutely no interest from any fans of those schools.

Might want to back up on that statement...

HOD bowl less than 500 miles a 7 hour drive from S. Miss
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Hell Western had close to that in Detroit the day after Christmas and 6 to 12 inches of snow on Christmas and the day after all the way from Louisville to Detroit



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WKU might not have great crowds at home, but we travel better than anyone in CUSA from what I have seen.
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(12-05-2017 01:44 AM)topperfan84 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 09:05 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 08:50 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 07:29 PM)Reggie Favre Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.

CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.

So know we know.

You really believe that or did you just make that up? Take a look at the bowl payouts and really think about what you just said / were told.

Come on man!!!

We have FAU's AD confirming this. On video.

he lied

or perhaps is naive and was simply lied to. heart of dallas bowl pays $800k and Boca bowl pays $400k and he's foolish enough to believe the Boca bowl is "premiere". Only one other bowl pays less.

left the link off last post.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...bowl_games

I don't think you understand how the bowl "payout" functions.

C-USA reimburses teams their expenses for the bowl trip and the teams generally get to keep a certain amount of ticket sales (usually up to $10,000). The payouts go to the conference to help offset all of those travel expenses. After everyone who went to a bowl is made whole for their expenses, each school receives 1/14th of whatever is left over.

So don't get mad at Southern Miss if they select a bowl with a lower payout eventually. It doesn't really matter.

This is something I haven't understood. If the conference reimburses teams for all expenses, then why do teams say they want to go to a close bowl so they keep costs down or that they lost money by going to the Hawaii bowl. I've seen these comments before. Is there like a cap on how much the conf will reimburse? Seems that ticket sales would be a % of ticket sales sold.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-05-2017 11:57 AM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  WKU might not have great crowds at home, but we travel better than anyone in CUSA from what I have seen.

Quite a few WKU fans at FAU Stadium's first game. Thought they travelled well and were good people. Marshall brought a great crowd for the Boca Raton Bowl vs NIU as well. Plenty of restaurants, etc around campus. Lots of nearby partying on a nightly basis on the Ave in Delray. A lot of the former Ft Lauderdale partiers are driving up to hang out on the Ave these days. Try a pub crawl starting at the Bull Bar and making it down to Boston's.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
WKU has an alumni base in south Florida. Show me pics from places not in south Florida.

Also, I was in attendance at the HoD bowl. We had about 7,500 in attendance the day after Christmas. And for a 6-8 hour drive, that’s not bad for any G5 school.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-05-2017 12:44 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  WKU has an alumni base in south Florida. Show me pics from places not in south Florida.

Also, I was in attendance at the HoD bowl. We had about 7,500 in attendance the day after Christmas. And for a 6-8 hour drive, that’s not bad for any G5 school.

Ford Field in Detroit the day after Christmas and as I said 6 to 12 inches of snow fell Christmas night and the 26th. Not only snow but high winds also. Half of the Western fan buses made it to the game right at or after kickoff.

I was at the game but don't have pictures on this PC and photobucket where most of my pictures are hosted is a piece of crap.


Western was not projected to make a bowl. Middle was moving to CUSA and had a 8-4 record while Western was 7-5. The SBC worked with Western to get the Detroit bowl...Middle stayed home. Western's coach had just took the USF job

We try to spend Christmas in PC Beach or Ft Lauderdale so I had already made plans and paid for our room in PC Beach. Christmas eve my son and I decided to drive to Detroit for the game. We left PC Beach drove to Owensboro KY...dropped my wife off and headed to Detroit. After the game we drove home that night...getting there around 5:30am. Had to drive slow because of the snow and ice on the roads. Next day we drove back to finish our Christmas vacation in PC Beach.

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DETROIT, MI – Mother Nature was not on our side heading into the Motor City.

We entered Detroit as the pregame show aired on ESPN in our buses. Many people became antsy at the idea of not making the pep rally before the game. While watching the pregame show, it was obvious Ford Field had not been filled simply because a majority of the crowd remained on a bus awaiting arrival.
Nonetheless, we made it into the stadium just as WKU kicked off to open the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl.

Students and fans filed into sections 101-105 behind the WKU bench for what would be an exciting game.
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WKU has an alumni base in south Florida. Show me pics from places not in south Florida.

Also, I was in attendance at the HoD bowl. We had about 7,500 in attendance the day after Christmas. And for a 6-8 hour drive, that’s not bad for any G5 school.
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After 30 years in S Fl, I've never heard of any significant WKU alumni base in SE Fl.
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We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.
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11am start didn't help at all
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The reasons why we didnt get the attendance

1) We blew out N Texas during the regular season. If we had not played them the attendance on both sides would have been much better.

2) North Texas brought almost noone, their band outnumbered their fans. This is the one time I actually wish Southern Miss had won the west. Their fans do show up. Heck I think even UAB would have brought more people.

3) The game was at 12 pm on a saturday afternoon

4) They were charging $40 a ticket plus $20 for parking for a boring game that even season ticket holders got no discount.

5) I did say North Texas right?

6) FAU vs UAB would have been a classic.
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We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.
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11am start didn't help at all
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The reasons why we didnt get the attendance

1) We blew out N Texas during the regular season. If we had not played them the attendance on both sides would have been much better.

2) North Texas brought almost noone, their band outnumbered their fans. This is the one time I actually wish Southern Miss had won the west. Their fans do show up. Heck I think even UAB would have brought more people.

3) The game was at 12 pm on a saturday afternoon

4) They were charging $40 a ticket plus $20 for parking for a boring game that even season ticket holders got no discount.

5) I did say North Texas right?

6) FAU vs UAB would have been a classic.
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You nailed it with #1. If first game had been closer, I bet more fans would have showed up. You guys were just too good this season.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-04-2017 10:51 AM)FIUFan Wrote:  
(12-04-2017 10:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  So I spoke to my (limited) contacts at FAU and asked why FAU is in this game.
CUSA now considers the Boca Raton Bowl as the PREMIER bowl in its lineup. This is from a location/destination standpoint as well as infrastructure to host teams. Anytime CUSA is slated to be in the line up CUSA wants its conference champion in this game. Hence why FAU is there. FAU administration isn't thrilled with it but their hands were tied. The conference pretty much said, "You're the champs, you're in Boca Bowl". The last minute shuffle to get Akron over Temple was in trying to get the best possible opponent against the CUSA champion. Akron as the MAC runner-up was deemed better then a 6-6 AAC Temple.
So know we know.

If this is truly the case, then why is not C-USA trumpeting this bowl as where our Champion plays. As the history of the Bowl shows, in three of the last four years, it has turned out to be the case:

2014: Marshall (C-USA Champ) Win over N. Ill. in Boca [Inaugural Game]
2015: WKU (C-USA Champ) Win over USF in Miami Beach (Boca game featured Toledo v. Temple)
2016: WKU (C-USA Champ) Win over Memphis in Boca
2017: FAU (C-USA Champ) tbd vs. Akron in Boca

Sooner or later we got to embrace our reality.

Maybe if the west ever got around to winning the conference the champ would play somewhere else 05-stirthepot
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-05-2017 11:57 AM)SigNuTopper Wrote:  WKU might not have great crowds at home, but we travel better than anyone in CUSA from what I have seen.

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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-03-2017 10:02 PM)TTT Wrote:  FAU had about 12k at home for the CUSA champ game. What makes yall think they'll have any more for a bowl home game?

Its sad that they had less then 15K at the game, and well 15K would have been a sad figure too. But that's the reality of the Florida Twins, neither of them draw flies.

(12-03-2017 10:04 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  We did have about 18,000 for the yearly Shula Bowl against FIU. I don't know why we did not get as many for the Conference Championship game.

FAU enrollment: 30,500
FIU enrollment: 55,000
Combined enrollment: 85,500

And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.

Markets, Bowl Game, desirable location, multiple major airports, deep pockets, willingness to invest in athletics...But you are right, recruiting and the chance for Marshall to play in front of their players families and recruit targets at every year is the biggest draw.

Attendance will ALWAYS suck at out schools to be honest. Until we are doing what UCF is doing on a regular basis it wont vastly improve. I've said numerous times that you don't erase almost a decade of bad football playing killing attendance with one good season. Hell look at MTSU, they've been close to the top of the heap for the last few years and they had an "off year" (Still bowling) and thier attendance suffered.

Top that off with many other leisure activities abundant in S. Florida you wont get buts in the seats till you are playing at the highest level.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
Additionally - the weather. No matter how late you play in Boca, even if it's 8:00 P.M., you're still dealing with 92 degrees sometimes in Sept./Oct. It would be fine for me, but for my family, who are not as enthused about the owls as I am, it may be difficult. We have those additional reasons for people not coming out that some other C-USA schools don't have.
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RE: Why didn't the Boca Bowl get a better MAC team than 7-6 Akron???
(12-07-2017 12:48 PM)OwlFamily Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 12:36 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  And you had a whopping 18,000 at a game featuring the 2 schools less than an hour apart. Tell me again besides Florida recruiting what is attractive to either school athletic wise.

Markets, Bowl Game, desirable location, multiple major airports, deep pockets, willingness to invest in athletics...But you are right, recruiting and the chance for Marshall to play in front of their players families and recruit targets at every year is the biggest draw.

Attendance will ALWAYS suck at out schools to be honest. Until we are doing what UCF is doing on a regular basis it wont vastly improve. I've said numerous times that you don't erase almost a decade of bad football playing killing attendance with one good season. Hell look at MTSU, they've been close to the top of the heap for the last few years and they had an "off year" (Still bowling) and thier attendance suffered.

Top that off with many other leisure activities abundant in S. Florida you wont get buts in the seats till you are playing at the highest level.

Why even try to explain...some fans have to find something to ***** about when their team is losing.

What they should be concerned with..why they are not competing on the field. FAU's attendance or any other school in this conference attendance has nothing to do with Marshall losing.

If attendance was that important you would think those with it....

would be the ones winning CUSA

FAU's attendance is not taking one dollar away from Marshall, S. Miss, Western, FIU or any other school in CUSA
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