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Conference RPI Jump
I knew yesterday was a pretty good day for our conference. We must have had a lot of help from teams we have beat as well? Anyways, we jumped from 17th overall up to 13th overall.
8 MTSU
11 La Tech
35 WKU
51 ODU
179 FAU
232 N Texas
248 UTEP
251 UTSA
256 Marshall
271 UAB
291 FIU
296 Rice
305 So Miss
307 Charlotte
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12-03-2017 10:45 AM |
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Franko
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
Someone explain how they (Realtime RPI) determines strength of schedule. I noticed MTSU's is higher than WKU's? I imagine at a neutral site carries more weight than at home by far. MTSU's is even ahead of Duke (7) and they have played Indiana, Florida, Texas, and Michigan State.
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MTSU - 6
3 toughest opponents
Murray St A
Belmont H
FGCU H&A
WKU - 12
Villanova N
SMU N
Purdue N
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12-03-2017 11:18 AM |
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ThreeifbyLightning
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
(12-03-2017 11:18 AM)Franko Wrote: Someone explain how they (Realtime RPI) determines strength of schedule. I noticed MTSU's is higher than WKU's? I imagine at a neutral site carries more weight than at home by far. MTSU's is even ahead of Duke (7) and they have played Indiana, Florida, Texas, and Michigan State.
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MTSU - 6
3 toughest opponents
Murray St A
Belmont H
FGCU H&A
WKU - 12
Villanova N
SMU N
Purdue N
SOS is a product of your opponents record (50%) and the opponents of your opponents record (25%) not the name on the jersey. MT has yet to play a team with a losing record, so that's a big lift to the SOS component of MT's RPI.
Another key to our current RPI is three true road wins. Road wins count more than home wins.
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12-03-2017 11:32 AM |
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FriscoDawg
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
In RPI calculations, the only games weighted for home, away, and neutral sites is the 25% portion for a team's actual record. The 75% SOS portion is not weighted for game sites.
(This post was last modified: 12-03-2017 12:11 PM by FriscoDawg.)
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12-03-2017 11:35 AM |
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ThreeifbyLightning
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
(12-03-2017 11:35 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:18 AM)Franko Wrote: Someone explain how they (Realtime RPI) determines strength of schedule. I noticed MTSU's is higher than WKU's? I imagine at a neutral site carries more weight than at home by far. MTSU's is even ahead of Duke (7) and they have played Indiana, Florida, Texas, and Michigan State.
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MTSU - 6
3 toughest opponents
Murray St A
Belmont H
FGCU H&A
WKU - 12
Villanova N
SMU N
Purdue N
SOS is a product of your opponents record (50%) and the opponents of your opponents record (25%) not the name on the jersey. MT has yet to play a team with a losing record, so that's a big lift to the SOS component of MT's RPI.
Another key to our current RPI is three true road wins. Road wins count more than home wins.
In RPI calculations, the only games weighted for home, away, and neutral sites is the 25% portion for a team's actual record. The 75% SOS portion is not weighted for game sites.
I assume you are just stating that to state since that's not what I said.
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12-03-2017 12:07 PM |
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Franko
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
(12-03-2017 11:35 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:18 AM)Franko Wrote: Someone explain how they (Realtime RPI) determines strength of schedule. I noticed MTSU's is higher than WKU's? I imagine at a neutral site carries more weight than at home by far. MTSU's is even ahead of Duke (7) and they have played Indiana, Florida, Texas, and Michigan State.
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MTSU - 6
3 toughest opponents
Murray St A
Belmont H
FGCU H&A
WKU - 12
Villanova N
SMU N
Purdue N
SOS is a product of your opponents record (50%) and the opponents of your opponents record (25%) not the name on the jersey. MT has yet to play a team with a losing record, so that's a big lift to the SOS component of MT's RPI.
Another key to our current RPI is three true road wins. Road wins count more than home wins.
In RPI calculations, the only games weighted for home, away, and neutral sites is the 25% portion for a team's actual record. The 75% SOS portion is not weighted for game sites.
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Thanks for the insight, just from a superficial perspective I just don't see how that formula makes sense but I'm not a numbers guy. I would take Duke's wins over FGCU and Murray State (glad Middle won) anytime.
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12-03-2017 12:11 PM |
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ThreeifbyLightning
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RE: Conference RPI Jump
(12-03-2017 12:11 PM)Franko Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:35 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:32 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (12-03-2017 11:18 AM)Franko Wrote: Someone explain how they (Realtime RPI) determines strength of schedule. I noticed MTSU's is higher than WKU's? I imagine at a neutral site carries more weight than at home by far. MTSU's is even ahead of Duke (7) and they have played Indiana, Florida, Texas, and Michigan State.
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MTSU - 6
3 toughest opponents
Murray St A
Belmont H
FGCU H&A
WKU - 12
Villanova N
SMU N
Purdue N
SOS is a product of your opponents record (50%) and the opponents of your opponents record (25%) not the name on the jersey. MT has yet to play a team with a losing record, so that's a big lift to the SOS component of MT's RPI.
Another key to our current RPI is three true road wins. Road wins count more than home wins.
In RPI calculations, the only games weighted for home, away, and neutral sites is the 25% portion for a team's actual record. The 75% SOS portion is not weighted for game sites.
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Thanks for the insight, just from a superficial perspective I just don't see how that formula makes sense but I'm not a numbers guy. I would take Duke's wins over FGCU and Murray State (glad Middle won) anytime.
By the end of the year Dukes wins over those teams will count more than our wins over Murry and FGCU. Even if Murray and FGCU have the exact same record as say Michigan St and Indiana the opponents records of UM and IU are going to catapult Duke's RPI, because they play in the Big 10 with great records across the board. On the flip, the opponents records of FGCU and Murray are going to terrible (and probably sub .500). This is the same reason why the RPI of MT (assuming we finish strong OOC) will slide as we get into conference play. C-USA's win pct is below .500. It's the same problem different year.
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12-03-2017 12:18 PM |
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