Fun slate today. The home teams are favored. All times Eastern

Marshall 104
William & Mary (-3.5) 114

Florida National 61
Florida International 79

La Tech 74
#24 Alabama (-11.0) 77

Rice 49
UT Arlington (-19.0) 69

Eastern Kentucky 51
WKU (-11.5) 83

USM 58
South Alabama (-5.5) 69

After last night we need some wins today. I'm hoping to see Marshall get our first road win and also avenge the ODU loss to Bill and Mary.

Would love to see La Tech pull off the upset, but I'm not counting that as a win. FIU's game doesn't count in RPI etc so I'm leaving it out.


We really need Rice WKU, So Miss and Marshall to at the very least go 2-2, but I'm hoping for 3-1.

Whoa there’s a Florida National? Was that once an airport as well?

Hoping to not have a letdown tonight, we owe EKU from last seasons embarrassment....

(11-29-2017 08:27 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  Whoa there’s a Florida National? Was that once an airport as well?

LOL. It's a small for profit outfit. They were Florida International Institute, then Florida International College then Florida National College and now FNU. But no, never an airport lol.

I am actually surprised they scheduled this game considering FIU sued them for trademark infringement over the name similarity.

Marshall fans - you should be able to watch your game on caa.tv. Last I checked it was free

FNU is a member of the USCAA (never heard of it) -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...ssociation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Na...University

I believe that Tech/Bama game is going to be streamed on SECN+

MT vs. Ole Miss women tonight on the SEC Network (DirectTV Channel 611) at 7pm

father vs. son

The team that has surprised me ooc this season so far (other than Western) has been UTSA. They’ve been losing games but losing them close and staying in them against teams I’ve actually heard of. Sure would like to have those close losses as wins but they certainly have surprised me a little bit.

They’re 4-3 with close losses recently to Bradley and Tulsa and a neutral court loss to Coastal Carolina. They have wins over Texas State, James Madison, and Texas A&M Corpus Cristi.

I know nothing about their team but they caught my eye with their scores.

La Tech is doing what they do. Playing well. I’ve seen ODU once against Temple and they have the physicality and athleticism but I can’t understand some of their losses. UAB has been disappointing so far but they have legit D1 talent and really good size for CUSA. Middle has done what we expected. They lost a ton no matter what they say about plugging in and going on.

Overall the conference appears to be on an upswing.

(11-29-2017 11:42 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  The team that has surprised me ooc this season so far (other than Western) has been UTSA. They’ve been losing games but losing them close and staying in them against teams I’ve actually heard of. Sure would like to have those close losses as wins but they certainly have surprised me a little bit.

They’re 4-3 with close losses recently to Bradley and Tulsa and a neutral court loss to Coastal Carolina. They have wins over Texas State, James Madison, and Texas A&M Corpus Cristi.

I know nothing about their team but they caught my eye with their scores.

La Tech is doing what they do. Playing well. I’ve seen ODU once against Temple and they have the physicality and athleticism but I can’t understand some of their losses. UAB has been disappointing so far but they have legit D1 talent and really good size for CUSA. Middle has done what we expected. They lost a ton no matter what they say about plugging in and going on.

Overall the conference appears to be on an upswing.

If we can get Giddy right, we have a chance to be very good again this season (due to the addition of Nick King)

But we MUST also get some more scoring and consistency out of our 2-guards (senior defensive specialist Ed Simpson and junior Antoine "Tay" Johnson who lit Butler up in the Dance last year)

If we can do those two things, we "might" be as good as we were last year, but it'll be tough. Hard to beat 31 wins -- don't know if I'll see that again in my lifetime. I hope our fans realize how great of a season that was.

Like a couple of others have said, I think we've "replaced" JaCorey Williams with Nick King, but Reggie Upshaw cannot be replaced. He was our POY last year, even though Williams got Coosa POY.

Western has been damn impressive thus far, esp. due to the fact that you only have 7 players. Maybe that takes the "guesswork" out of Stanz' bench coaching. Maybe it allows more individual one-on-one instruction during practice, as well.

That said, Western cannot afford a significant injury.

I watched you beat Painter......... he is first cousins with a friend of mine (former MT assistant Andy Herzer). Painter has been to Murfreesboro several times to give speeches, etc.

(11-29-2017 12:00 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 11:42 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  The team that has surprised me ooc this season so far (other than Western) has been UTSA. They’ve been losing games but losing them close and staying in them against teams I’ve actually heard of. Sure would like to have those close losses as wins but they certainly have surprised me a little bit.

They’re 4-3 with close losses recently to Bradley and Tulsa and a neutral court loss to Coastal Carolina. They have wins over Texas State, James Madison, and Texas A&M Corpus Cristi.

I know nothing about their team but they caught my eye with their scores.

La Tech is doing what they do. Playing well. I’ve seen ODU once against Temple and they have the physicality and athleticism but I can’t understand some of their losses. UAB has been disappointing so far but they have legit D1 talent and really good size for CUSA. Middle has done what we expected. They lost a ton no matter what they say about plugging in and going on.

Overall the conference appears to be on an upswing.

If we can get Giddy right, we have a chance to be very good again this season (due to the addition of Nick King)

But we MUST also get some more scoring and consistency out of our 2-guards (senior defensive specialist Ed Simpson and junior Antoine "Tay" Johnson who lit Butler up in the Dance last year)

If we can do those two things, we "might" be as good as we were last year, but it'll be tough. Hard to beat 31 wins -- don't know if I'll see that again in my lifetime. I hope our fans realize how great of a season that was.

Like a couple of others have said, I think we've "replaced" JaCorey Williams with Nick King, but Reggie Upshaw cannot be replaced. He was our POY last year, even though Williams got Coosa POY.

Western has been damn impressive thus far, esp. due to the fact that you only have 7 players. Maybe that takes the "guesswork" out of Stanz' bench coaching. Maybe it allows more individual one-on-one instruction during practice, as well.

That said, Western cannot afford a significant injury.

I watched you beat Painter......... he is first cousins with a friend of mine (former MT assistant Andy Herzer). Painter has been to Murfreesboro several times to give speeches, etc.

Yea the few WKU posters who complained before last season and during last season that Stans is not a good bench coach has been silenced so far this year....Stans is doing a great job switching defenses so far in this season...You don't finish 3rd in SEC behind UK and UF in wins and be a crappy bench coach despite whatever noise we heard from a select few last season...It also helps to have players who are you know basketball players that can run, jump, cut, steal, dribble, etc....

Wake me up when a Stansbury coached team makes it past a round of 32 game....Hopefully that is this year. But one year does not make a coach a good floor coach. A good floor coach wins as often if not more so as he loses when going up against like talented schools.

I'm as happy as anyone the way this Western team is playing and winning. And as long as they give the same effort as they have shown...I'm OK if the season doesn't turn out like a lot of Western fans are banking on after a couple good wins. I said going into this season Western had the talent to compete for a conference championship with a little luck...foul trouble and injuries.

Based on talent all 5 spots were covered with talented players....some just young. While others (like 518) were hedging their bets....500 or around there. I wasn't. But I also said if this team didn't meet my goals I was OK as long as they put in the effort and played team ball. I knew and still do this team is a injury and foul trouble away from losing more than a few games they probably should win. Still think that will probably happen at some point....need the luck to go along with the talent. But effort and team ball is what I'm looking for. I will take winning out and Stansbury getting pass that round of 32.

Even with that I still don't think he's a great bench coach. Sometimes shiit just happens. Now if next years team wins and is as well coached as this team, so far, I might change my mind. Losing 3 sr leaders and all your inside players is going to be hard to replace.

But just so we know what we are talking about on Stansbury's coaching record...below is what he did in the SEC. Beat the 150 and below teams and lost more than he won when the team was just as talented.

50-90 vs the top 50 and almost (if not every) year he had better than top 50 talent

(11-29-2017 12:32 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 12:00 PM)KAjunRaider Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 11:42 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  The team that has surprised me ooc this season so far (other than Western) has been UTSA. They’ve been losing games but losing them close and staying in them against teams I’ve actually heard of. Sure would like to have those close losses as wins but they certainly have surprised me a little bit.

They’re 4-3 with close losses recently to Bradley and Tulsa and a neutral court loss to Coastal Carolina. They have wins over Texas State, James Madison, and Texas A&M Corpus Cristi.

I know nothing about their team but they caught my eye with their scores.

La Tech is doing what they do. Playing well. I’ve seen ODU once against Temple and they have the physicality and athleticism but I can’t understand some of their losses. UAB has been disappointing so far but they have legit D1 talent and really good size for CUSA. Middle has done what we expected. They lost a ton no matter what they say about plugging in and going on.

Overall the conference appears to be on an upswing.

If we can get Giddy right, we have a chance to be very good again this season (due to the addition of Nick King)

But we MUST also get some more scoring and consistency out of our 2-guards (senior defensive specialist Ed Simpson and junior Antoine "Tay" Johnson who lit Butler up in the Dance last year)

If we can do those two things, we "might" be as good as we were last year, but it'll be tough. Hard to beat 31 wins -- don't know if I'll see that again in my lifetime. I hope our fans realize how great of a season that was.

Like a couple of others have said, I think we've "replaced" JaCorey Williams with Nick King, but Reggie Upshaw cannot be replaced. He was our POY last year, even though Williams got Coosa POY.

Western has been damn impressive thus far, esp. due to the fact that you only have 7 players. Maybe that takes the "guesswork" out of Stanz' bench coaching. Maybe it allows more individual one-on-one instruction during practice, as well.

That said, Western cannot afford a significant injury.

I watched you beat Painter......... he is first cousins with a friend of mine (former MT assistant Andy Herzer). Painter has been to Murfreesboro several times to give speeches, etc.

Yea the few WKU posters who complained before last season and during last season that Stans is not a good bench coach has been silenced so far this year....Stans is doing a great job switching defenses so far in this season...You don't finish 3rd in SEC behind UK and UF in wins and be a crappy bench coach despite whatever noise we heard from a select few last season...It also helps to have players who are you know basketball players that can run, jump, cut, steal, dribble, etc....

I wasn't knocking Stans. The year we beat Michigan State, a part-time starter (Ed Simpson) went down just prior to the Coosa tourney. I hated it for the kid, but I think we did better without him (took the Kermit guesswork out of bringing players in and out). I think players need to play through their mistakes instead of being yanked (which Kermit is wont to do)

(11-29-2017 01:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Wake me up when a Stansbury coached team makes it past a round of 32 game....Hopefully that is this year. But one year does not make a coach a good floor coach. A good floor coach wins as often if not more so as he loses when going up against like talented schools.

I'm as happy as anyone the way this Western team is playing and winning. And as long as they give the same effort as they have shown...I'm OK if the season doesn't turn out like a lot of Western fans are banking on after a couple good wins. I said going into this season Western had the talent to compete for a conference championship with a little luck...foul trouble and injuries.

Based on talent all 5 spots were covered with talented players....some just young. While others (like 518) were hedging their bets....500 or around there. I wasn't. But I also said if this team didn't meet my goals I was OK as long as they put in the effort and played team ball. I knew and still do this team is a injury and foul trouble away from losing more than a few games they probably should win. Still think that will probably happen at some point....need the luck to go along with the talent. But effort and team ball is what I'm looking for. I will take winning out and Stansbury getting pass that round of 32.

Even with that I still don't think he's a great bench coach. Sometimes shiit just happens. Now if next years team wins and is as well coached as this team, so far, I might change my mind. Losing 3 sr leaders and all your inside players is going to be hard to replace.

But just so we know what we are talking about on Stansbury's coaching record...below is what he did in the SEC. Beat the 150 and below teams and lost more than he won when the team was just as talented.

50-90 vs the top 50 and almost (if not every) year he had better than top 50 talent

We win 2 games in a tourney and 518 is ready to crown Stans as John Wooden. I’m thrilled with the job he’s done so far this year. He only has 8 players so rotating players in is not rocket science. As far as switching defenses that is not rocket science either. We gave up a lot of open shots against Purdue. If they’re shooting normal they kill us with 3s. These weren’t contested 3s either. Our zone was late rotating against their skip passes several times for wide open 3s, that they missed.

Some nights a team...cough cough....Belmont is gonna wear us out on those open looks. Teams always shoot better than their average at Diddle. If Stans shuts Belmont down I’ll be very impressed. And one very happy Topper fan.

I’m still happy as a clam. A ‘great’ bench coach would have gotten some defense out of the 3 grad txfers last year. Stans didn’t. Did an awful job with them. I’ve never seen someone as butthurt as 518 is this year.

We’re happy at Western. Just keep it going. I’ll be up there tonight hoping we beat the living dogshitt out of Eastern. Stans didn’t help that one last year by stating Western was Eastern’s super bowl right before we played them at their place. Does talking shittt about an upcoming opponent count as bench coaching?

If we can get JA eligible I’ll be an even happier camper. Diagne is such a long shot but we could have one hell of a team if we get both.

Tech is going to give Bama all they want especially if Petty is out. I'll be watching.

UAB's game against Memphis is going to be really important for reasons other than they are a rival. After Memphis we on the road at a pretty darn good Troy and then Auburn. Now is the time this team has to put it all together.

UAB still has arguably the deepest and most talented team in the conference but the Cayman tournament really knocked down our perception by those who didn't watch it. Bringing back a rusty Nick Norton and then plugging in a ball dominate freshman guard who is REALLY good has messed with the chemistry early. They'll get right and people will forget November ever happened.

(11-29-2017 01:36 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 01:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Wake me up when a Stansbury coached team makes it past a round of 32 game....Hopefully that is this year. But one year does not make a coach a good floor coach. A good floor coach wins as often if not more so as he loses when going up against like talented schools.

I'm as happy as anyone the way this Western team is playing and winning. And as long as they give the same effort as they have shown...I'm OK if the season doesn't turn out like a lot of Western fans are banking on after a couple good wins. I said going into this season Western had the talent to compete for a conference championship with a little luck...foul trouble and injuries.

Based on talent all 5 spots were covered with talented players....some just young. While others (like 518) were hedging their bets....500 or around there. I wasn't. But I also said if this team didn't meet my goals I was OK as long as they put in the effort and played team ball. I knew and still do this team is a injury and foul trouble away from losing more than a few games they probably should win. Still think that will probably happen at some point....need the luck to go along with the talent. But effort and team ball is what I'm looking for. I will take winning out and Stansbury getting pass that round of 32.

Even with that I still don't think he's a great bench coach. Sometimes shiit just happens. Now if next years team wins and is as well coached as this team, so far, I might change my mind. Losing 3 sr leaders and all your inside players is going to be hard to replace.

But just so we know what we are talking about on Stansbury's coaching record...below is what he did in the SEC. Beat the 150 and below teams and lost more than he won when the team was just as talented.

50-90 vs the top 50 and almost (if not every) year he had better than top 50 talent

We win 2 games in a tourney and 518 is ready to crown Stans as John Wooden. I’m thrilled with the job he’s done so far this year. He only has 8 players so rotating players in is not rocket science. As far as switching defenses that is not rocket science either. We gave up a lot of open shots against Purdue. If they’re shooting normal they kill us with 3s. These weren’t contested 3s either. Our zone was late rotating against their skip passes several times for wide open 3s, that they missed.

Some nights a team...cough cough....Belmont is gonna wear us out on those open looks. Teams always shoot better than their average at Diddle. If Stans shuts Belmont down I’ll be very impressed. And one very happy Topper fan.

I’m still happy as a clam. A ‘great’ bench coach would have gotten some defense out of the 3 grad txfers last year. Stans didn’t. Did an awful job with them. I’ve never seen someone as butthurt as 518 is this year.

We’re happy at Western. Just keep it going. I’ll be up there tonight hoping we beat the living dogshitt out of Eastern. Stans didn’t help that one last year by stating Western was Eastern’s super bowl right before we played them at their place. Does talking shittt about an upcoming opponent count as bench coaching?

If we can get JA eligible I’ll be an even happier camper. Diagne is such a long shot but we could have one hell of a team if we get both.

518 is about like Bob on HH....when I remember my password I will set bob straight. New PC and for some reason my old password is not working on HH. But I probably changed it and don't recall it. I will get my old PC out when I get home tonight...

should get to Diddle about at tip off

Some of these people just don't understand you can think a coach is the wrong person for the job or maybe not a good coach at all. And still support the team. Not only that...if you feel that way you hope like hell you are wrong. I do believe old 518 and a few others wanted Western to lose games a couple years ago...just so they could post negative crap

No matter who's coaching...I haven't felt that way and I know you haven't either. To support the team you don't always have to like a coach. Or in my case a lying scumbag AD.

Another difference..those boys were 24/7 with their hate from day one. Repeating everything they said post after post after post.

(11-29-2017 01:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Wake me up when a Stansbury coached team makes it past a round of 32 game....Hopefully that is this year. But one year does not make a coach a good floor coach. A good floor coach wins as often if not more so as he loses when going up against like talented schools.

I'm as happy as anyone the way this Western team is playing and winning. And as long as they give the same effort as they have shown...I'm OK if the season doesn't turn out like a lot of Western fans are banking on after a couple good wins. I said going into this season Western had the talent to compete for a conference championship with a little luck...foul trouble and injuries.

Based on talent all 5 spots were covered with talented players....some just young. While others (like 518) were hedging their bets....500 or around there. I wasn't. But I also said if this team didn't meet my goals I was OK as long as they put in the effort and played team ball. I knew and still do this team is a injury and foul trouble away from losing more than a few games they probably should win. Still think that will probably happen at some point....need the luck to go along with the talent. But effort and team ball is what I'm looking for. I will take winning out and Stansbury getting pass that round of 32.

Even with that I still don't think he's a great bench coach. Sometimes shiit just happens. Now if next years team wins and is as well coached as this team, so far, I might change my mind. Losing 3 sr leaders and all your inside players is going to be hard to replace.

But just so we know what we are talking about on Stansbury's coaching record...below is what he did in the SEC. Beat the 150 and below teams and lost more than he won when the team was just as talented.

50-90 vs the top 50 and almost (if not every) year he had better than top 50 talent

If we are in tournament higher than a 16th seed he would have beat your boyfriend out....So now we have go to Elite 8 for you to be satisfied......I personally would rather be a 12th seed or higher and have a chance vs. 16th seed....

I never said I only hope we finish .500...I said it was impossible to predict wins and losses for this group, we have no idea still...We are still waiting on a full roster, so it still remains impossible to guess how many wins and losses this group will have...If they continue playing hard and unselfish probably going to be a lot more wins than anyone could have possibly thought!

How am I butthurt? YOu and Beed have been crickets for the last week...Stans was a coaching fool in this tournament switching defenses keeping Purdue off balance, etc...I am not saying its the end all be all in this tournament, but he already has 2 more solid regular season legit wins then Harper had here in 5 years combined...If that makes me butthurt, then so be it, you can call me whatever name you would like, I don't give a ****....Facts are facts....I am not declaring Stansbury Wooden, but it amazing the difference in his coaching when he has guys who can play basketball....I am also not banking on going crazy with expectations for this season, however so far I am more than pleased and why can we not celebrate some success around here? Its been so long since we have had 1 win vs. a ranked team much less 2 solid back to back wins I forgot what it felt like....

(11-29-2017 02:20 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 01:36 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(11-29-2017 01:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Wake me up when a Stansbury coached team makes it past a round of 32 game....Hopefully that is this year. But one year does not make a coach a good floor coach. A good floor coach wins as often if not more so as he loses when going up against like talented schools.

I'm as happy as anyone the way this Western team is playing and winning. And as long as they give the same effort as they have shown...I'm OK if the season doesn't turn out like a lot of Western fans are banking on after a couple good wins. I said going into this season Western had the talent to compete for a conference championship with a little luck...foul trouble and injuries.

Based on talent all 5 spots were covered with talented players....some just young. While others (like 518) were hedging their bets....500 or around there. I wasn't. But I also said if this team didn't meet my goals I was OK as long as they put in the effort and played team ball. I knew and still do this team is a injury and foul trouble away from losing more than a few games they probably should win. Still think that will probably happen at some point....need the luck to go along with the talent. But effort and team ball is what I'm looking for. I will take winning out and Stansbury getting pass that round of 32.

Even with that I still don't think he's a great bench coach. Sometimes shiit just happens. Now if next years team wins and is as well coached as this team, so far, I might change my mind. Losing 3 sr leaders and all your inside players is going to be hard to replace.

But just so we know what we are talking about on Stansbury's coaching record...below is what he did in the SEC. Beat the 150 and below teams and lost more than he won when the team was just as talented.

50-90 vs the top 50 and almost (if not every) year he had better than top 50 talent

We win 2 games in a tourney and 518 is ready to crown Stans as John Wooden. I’m thrilled with the job he’s done so far this year. He only has 8 players so rotating players in is not rocket science. As far as switching defenses that is not rocket science either. We gave up a lot of open shots against Purdue. If they’re shooting normal they kill us with 3s. These weren’t contested 3s either. Our zone was late rotating against their skip passes several times for wide open 3s, that they missed.

Some nights a team...cough cough....Belmont is gonna wear us out on those open looks. Teams always shoot better than their average at Diddle. If Stans shuts Belmont down I’ll be very impressed. And one very happy Topper fan.

I’m still happy as a clam. A ‘great’ bench coach would have gotten some defense out of the 3 grad txfers last year. Stans didn’t. Did an awful job with them. I’ve never seen someone as butthurt as 518 is this year.

We’re happy at Western. Just keep it going. I’ll be up there tonight hoping we beat the living dogshitt out of Eastern. Stans didn’t help that one last year by stating Western was Eastern’s super bowl right before we played them at their place. Does talking shittt about an upcoming opponent count as bench coaching?

If we can get JA eligible I’ll be an even happier camper. Diagne is such a long shot but we could have one hell of a team if we get both.

518 is about like Bob on HH....when I remember my password I will set bob straight. New PC and for some reason my old password is not working on HH. But I probably changed it and don't recall it. I will get my old PC out when I get home tonight...

should get to Diddle about at tip off

Some of these people just don't understand you can think a coach is the wrong person for the job or maybe not a good coach at all. And still support the team. Not only that...if you feel that way you hope like hell you are wrong. I do believe old 518 and a few others wanted Western to lose games a couple years ago...just so they could post negative crap

No matter who's coaching...I haven't felt that way and I know you haven't either. To support the team you don't always have to like a coach. Or in my case a lying scumbag AD.

Another difference..those boys were 24/7 with their hate from day one. Repeating everything they said post after post after post.

I have never wanted Western to lose, your posts come across as hoping Stansbury does not succeed yet gave a pass to a guy who has been surpassed already in 6 regular season games by Stans.., ..You have had agenda against Stansbury before he coached his first game and have posted the same thing over and over again....Again what is the difference? no other way around it...College basketball is all about coaching and talent....Our talent level has gone up hence wins are starting to come and makes any coach look pretty good...

USM,MARSHALL,WKU all need to win tonight if we are going to start moving up the ladder in conf. RPI.We need to start winning against peer or lower conferences.Really need a sweep from those three tonight.