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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:50 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: Its in complete disarray. Earlier, the chancellor was reportedly pizzed the boosters made him fire Long. So he set up an advisory council for the AD search, a council he hand picked so that the person he wants would be the AD. Now we have learned that the boosters and he are in disagreement about a coach, the boosters are going around him and the interim AD in the coaching search, and now it looks like they are going to try to go around the council by getting an outside search firm to get involved in the AD hiring.
Its literally degrading to OleMiss status there.
Just hired to vet the finalists is the narrative... hahahahahaha
Someone on Hawgsville posted the same thing. Said they did it to keep the contract under wraps until Sunday so it wouldnt get FOIA'ed. Someone else asked them if it was a wise expenditure of money to spend a few hundred thousand to keep something from being FOIA'ed for a few days.
They are also ready to ban the guy that said the Norvell deal was done last night, especially after the news that came out today.
So they are publicly admitting to actively taking steps to circumvent the Freedom of Information Act at a public university.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 03:57 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:23 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:17 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:12 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting. Sounds like they may be having some problems.
Strictly being used for outside vetting and shield from FOIA requests.
Ya, that makes sense... Get the coach lined up and agree to take the job and then publicly announce a search firm, just to do a background check on him. That seems reasonable and 100% bass ackwards.
Let's get a couple of things straight, She said their would be no search committee for a head coach. There still isn't a committee, a search firm to aid and abiet discreet dicussions isn't a search committee. Sadly, many of the folks have the he same agent representation. It's hard to negotiate between candidates when each know what the hehe other is being offered. This may help facilitate a more neutral negotiation for the he parties involved. Private money is paying for the hehe hehe search firms, a break from the past it seems, to better shield FOIA requests which Arkansas is famous for, I was proud of Nutt learning from his time here.
oh okay, it is not a search committee it is just a search firm...
And yes, the interim AD made that statement and the same group of big money boosters who went behind Long's back and started contacting coaches privately have now gone and hired a search firm, but tell me again how rosy everything is and how well everyone is playing together up there. Civil war is about to break out between big money and the school is what it sounds like to me.
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Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
FOIAs never happen this fast anyway. Would be a waste.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
I wonder if a public university will admit to trying to circumvent eeoc laws in addition to the foia. Smart
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 03:53 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:27 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:35 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Wolken is tweeting about the decision to go search firm midstream. Says Arkansas is now "winging it" --
its coming off as administration and boosters cannot agree on a name. be it Venables, Norvell, or even their oh so coveted malzahn
Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
It’s his alma mater isn’t it? (he went there but graduated elsewhere).
He grew up in there area, he can earn the size salary he makes at Auburn, he gets a fresh start where there is no criticism to start, he can dance on Frank Broyle’s grave and Nelson Muntz Houston Nutt.
Arkansas wanted him instead of B.B., but the governor wouldn’t let them take stAte’s coach.
From Fort Smith
Played at Arkansas (I think)
Coached at Shiloh Christian (private high school in Springdale)
Coached at Springdale High School
First college coaching gig was OC at Arkansas
Family still lives in Fort Smith
They still have lots of friends in the Fort Smith & NWA area
Supposedly his wife desperately wants to move back
One season at Arkansas before transferring down.
His Wife has a house under contract in NWA for what it's worth
. The backstory is that his internal dealings with AD administration has become very frustrating to Gus and that may be the reason he decides to leave that comes from various sources connected to him. Thwy supposedly don't lie each othwr much. Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1 with no chance of beating Bama. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being. Getting beat by Georgia could take him back to three weeks ago. Winning makes Auburn offer the moon to keep their coach for the playoff and save the embarrassment of their coach bolting before hand. Gus would stay because he would be much better protected from the politics of football in Alabama. If they refused to make it better, he can pull the Old Bear saw, "Mama Called."
I wish they would just cut bait and hire Norvell after Sat but maybe some folks want to see how he responds to that ass whooping Frost gave them earlier this season. If The Tigers play a much closer game or wins, it answers a lot of lingering doubt.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:13 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:53 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:27 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: its coming off as administration and boosters cannot agree on a name. be it Venables, Norvell, or even their oh so coveted malzahn
Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
It’s his alma mater isn’t it? (he went there but graduated elsewhere).
He grew up in there area, he can earn the size salary he makes at Auburn, he gets a fresh start where there is no criticism to start, he can dance on Frank Broyle’s grave and Nelson Muntz Houston Nutt.
Arkansas wanted him instead of B.B., but the governor wouldn’t let them take stAte’s coach.
From Fort Smith
Played at Arkansas (I think)
Coached at Shiloh Christian (private high school in Springdale)
Coached at Springdale High School
First college coaching gig was OC at Arkansas
Family still lives in Fort Smith
They still have lots of friends in the Fort Smith & NWA area
Supposedly his wife desperately wants to move back
One season at Arkansas before transferring down.
His Wife has a house under contract in NWA for what it's worth. The backstop is that the internal dealings with AD administration has become very frustrating to Gus and that may be the reason he decides to leave that comes from various sources connected to him. Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being. Getting beat by Georgia could take him back to three weeks ago. Winning makes Auburn having to offer the moon to keep their coach for the playoff and embarrassment of their coach bolting before hand. Gus would stay because he would be much better protected from rhe politics of football in Alabama. If they refused to make it better, he can pull the Old Bear saw, "Mama Called."
I wish they would just cut bait and hire Norvell after Sat but maybe some folks want to see how he responds to that ass whooping Frost gave them earlier this season. If The Tiger play a much closer game or wins and it answers a lot of lingering doubt.
You really just make shite up as you go, dont you. Never change.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 03:57 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:23 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:17 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:12 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Interesting. Sounds like they may be having some problems.
Strictly being used for outside vetting and shield from FOIA requests.
Ya, that makes sense... Get the coach lined up and agree to take the job and then publicly announce a search firm, just to do a background check on him. That seems reasonable and 100% bass ackwards.
Let's get a couple of things straight, She said their would be no search committee for a head coach. There still isn't a committee, a search firm to aid and abiet discreet dicussions isn't a search committee. Sadly, many of the folks have the he same agent representation. It's hard to negotiate between candidates when each know what the hehe other is being offered. This may help facilitate a more neutral negotiation for the he parties involved. Private money is paying for the hehe hehe search firms, a break from the past it seems, to better shield FOIA requests which Arkansas is famous for, I was proud of Nutt learning from his time here.
Yeah, you're paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep discussions discrete. Right...
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 03:56 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:53 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:27 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: its coming off as administration and boosters cannot agree on a name. be it Venables, Norvell, or even their oh so coveted malzahn
Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
It’s his alma mater isn’t it? (he went there but graduated elsewhere).
He grew up in there area, he can earn the size salary he makes at Auburn, he gets a fresh start where there is no criticism to start, he can dance on Frank Broyle’s grave and Nelson Muntz Houston Nutt.
Arkansas wanted him instead of B.B., but the governor wouldn’t let them take stAte’s coach.
From Fort Smith
Played at Arkansas (I think)
Coached at Shiloh Christian (private high school in Springdale)
Coached at Springdale High School
First college coaching gig was OC at Arkansas
Family still lives in Fort Smith
They still have lots of friends in the Fort Smith & NWA area
Supposedly his wife desperately wants to move back
It is amazing how many memphis posters have insights into the thoughts of kristi malzahn. Lmao
From Fort Smith, live in Springdale and work in Fayetteville. Went to church with her parents and my FIL knows them pretty well. In saying that I have no idea what Gus is going to do but it is no secret in this area that she wants to move back...
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
Wayward is the epitome of troll, why is he still here?
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
Mike Beebe was a notorious ASU supporter and once posted on an ASU board under Amagon Mike and spewed Razorback hate. He got the Governorship and that board erased all of his posts for him as though he never existed. There was a list of his best posts but they were lost when the other board that had them archived crashed. It was this back knowledge that kept him in check. But he did make known to Fayetteville they were o keep off Malzahn at ASU only for Gus to bolt after one season to Aubbie, he wasn't expecting that.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:13 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:53 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:27 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: its coming off as administration and boosters cannot agree on a name. be it Venables, Norvell, or even their oh so coveted malzahn
Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
It’s his alma mater isn’t it? (he went there but graduated elsewhere).
He grew up in there area, he can earn the size salary he makes at Auburn, he gets a fresh start where there is no criticism to start, he can dance on Frank Broyle’s grave and Nelson Muntz Houston Nutt.
Arkansas wanted him instead of B.B., but the governor wouldn’t let them take stAte’s coach.
From Fort Smith
Played at Arkansas (I think)
Coached at Shiloh Christian (private high school in Springdale)
Coached at Springdale High School
First college coaching gig was OC at Arkansas
Family still lives in Fort Smith
They still have lots of friends in the Fort Smith & NWA area
Supposedly his wife desperately wants to move back
One season at Arkansas before transferring down.
His Wife has a house under contract in NWA for what it's worth
. The backstory is that his internal dealings with AD administration has become very frustrating to Gus and that may be the reason he decides to leave that comes from various sources connected to him. Thwy supposedly don't lie each othwr much. Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1 with no chance of beating Bama. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being. Getting beat by Georgia could take him back to three weeks ago. Winning makes Auburn offer the moon to keep their coach for the playoff and save the embarrassment of their coach bolting before hand. Gus would stay because he would be much better protected from the politics of football in Alabama. If they refused to make it better, he can pull the Old Bear saw, "Mama Called."
I wish they would just cut bait and hire Norvell after Sat but maybe some folks want to see how he responds to that ass whooping Frost gave them earlier this season. If The Tigers play a much closer game or wins, it answers a lot of lingering doubt.
If the Tigers win on Saturday and get invited a NY’s bowl, Norvell might want that game on his resume.
Not the same as the Birmingham Bowl.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:40 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 04:13 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:53 PM)Tygrys Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:49 PM)Latilleon Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
It’s his alma mater isn’t it? (he went there but graduated elsewhere).
He grew up in there area, he can earn the size salary he makes at Auburn, he gets a fresh start where there is no criticism to start, he can dance on Frank Broyle’s grave and Nelson Muntz Houston Nutt.
Arkansas wanted him instead of B.B., but the governor wouldn’t let them take stAte’s coach.
From Fort Smith
Played at Arkansas (I think)
Coached at Shiloh Christian (private high school in Springdale)
Coached at Springdale High School
First college coaching gig was OC at Arkansas
Family still lives in Fort Smith
They still have lots of friends in the Fort Smith & NWA area
Supposedly his wife desperately wants to move back
One season at Arkansas before transferring down.
His Wife has a house under contract in NWA for what it's worth
. The backstory is that his internal dealings with AD administration has become very frustrating to Gus and that may be the reason he decides to leave that comes from various sources connected to him. Thwy supposedly don't lie each othwr much. Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1 with no chance of beating Bama. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being. Getting beat by Georgia could take him back to three weeks ago. Winning makes Auburn offer the moon to keep their coach for the playoff and save the embarrassment of their coach bolting before hand. Gus would stay because he would be much better protected from the politics of football in Alabama. If they refused to make it better, he can pull the Old Bear saw, "Mama Called."
I wish they would just cut bait and hire Norvell after Sat but maybe some folks want to see how he responds to that ass whooping Frost gave them earlier this season. If The Tigers play a much closer game or wins, it answers a lot of lingering doubt.
If the Tigers win on Saturday and get invited a NY’s bowl, Norvell might want that game on his resume.
Not the same as the Birmingham Bowl.
I agree... If he leaves, it might be quite a while before he gets back to a New Year's Six bowl again...
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:40 PM)Latilleon Wrote: If the Tigers win on Saturday and get invited a NY’s bowl, Norvell might want that game on his resume.
Not the same as the Birmingham Bowl.
Interesting idea one could use in a contract negotiation in an attempt to keep MN an additional year.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 04:13 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1 with no chance of beating Bama. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being.
What are you talking about? He went 2-0 with 1 remaining to play. Unless you're counting the big win over La-Monroe as the 3rd game.
This tells us plenty about your depth of knowledge and insight.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-29-2017 10:27 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (11-28-2017 04:13 PM)Wayward Memphian Wrote: Let's remember 4 weeks ago no one expected him to go 3-0 with games agains Georgia and Bama. Most had him going 1-2 with the best case of 2-1 with no chance of beating Bama. Gus leaving would have been doing the Auburn AD a favor as the pressure for a change would have been great. But, he went 3-0 and he holds the cards for the time being.
What are you talking about? He went 2-0 with 1 remaining to play. Unless you're counting the big win over La-Monroe as the 3rd game.
This tells us plenty about your depth of knowledge and insight.
This Wayward guy has no business posting here. He's a fool.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
So, in summary...
There's a presser on Sunday afternoon to announce Norvell as the new Arkinsaw coach.
Meanwhile, they have hired a search firm.
The search firm was hired to circumvent FOIA requests - when one single lawyer could have accomplished the same thing.
They are waiting to see if Auburn wins Saturday to know whether they will get Malzahn as their coach.
And Malzahn has an offer pending for a house in the area.
Yep. Those dots all connect perfectly.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-29-2017 10:33 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: So, in summary...
There's a presser on Sunday afternoon to announce Norvell as the new Arkinsaw coach.
Meanwhile, they have hired a search firm.
The search firm was hired to circumvent FOIA requests - when one single lawyer could have accomplished the same thing.
They are waiting to see if Auburn wins Saturday to know whether they will get Malzahn as their coach.
And Malzahn has an offer pending for a house in the area.
Yep. Those dots all connect perfectly.
Don't forget, wayward is their lead pick for AD and then he's gonna write the check to the search firm for $500,000 for doing three background checks. What an idiot.
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
(11-28-2017 05:32 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:45 PM)shere khan Wrote: (11-28-2017 03:27 PM)tjwillis47 Wrote: (11-28-2017 02:35 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Wolken is tweeting about the decision to go search firm midstream. Says Arkansas is now "winging it" --
its coming off as administration and boosters cannot agree on a name. be it Venables, Norvell, or even their oh so coveted malzahn
Has an SEC coach ever been demoted to a lesser school? Malzahn to arkansas might be a first.
Bill Curry left alabama for kentucky in 1990.
In early 1990, Alabama tendered Curry a new contract which contained provisions he disliked, including no raise and removal of his power to hire and fire assistants. Curry was particularly upset by this since he'd led the Tide to a share of its first SEC title and its first major-bowl appearance since the Bryant era. He responded by accepting an offer to become the head coach at the University of Kentucky.
Good call. I had thought Spurrier but he retired and picked USCe as a hobby. Maybe ark should hire tubberville
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RE: Arkansas does 180. Will now hire search firm after first saying they would not.
Dennis Franchione left Bama after two years in '02 to go to Texas A&M.
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