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Players missing bowl games for NFL draft
And so it starts...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-out-bowl/

my prediction is that this list gets a whole lot longer than anyone here will like.
11-27-2017 06:31 PM
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I think players should finish the year, but I also think the coaches should not be allowed to walk away from their teams before bowl games. Coaches always preach commitment and dedication to the team and then just say bye. Bad examples.
11-27-2017 06:45 PM
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Good for them. They should be thinking of what is best for them. Everyone else does.
11-27-2017 06:51 PM
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(11-27-2017 06:45 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  I think players should finish the year, but I also think the coaches should not be allowed to walk away from their teams before bowl games. Coaches always preach commitment and dedication to the team and then just say bye. Bad examples.

Agreed. That being said, I think a player can help their stock quite a bit with a great bowl performance against good competition. Maybe that potential upside isn't worth the injury risk and opportunity cost of not being able to prepare for the draft in private, but it's there.
11-27-2017 07:10 PM
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(11-27-2017 07:10 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 06:45 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  I think players should finish the year, but I also think the coaches should not be allowed to walk away from their teams before bowl games. Coaches always preach commitment and dedication to the team and then just say bye. Bad examples.

Agreed. That being said, I think a player can help their stock quite a bit with a great bowl performance against good competition. Maybe that potential upside isn't worth the injury risk and opportunity cost of not being able to prepare for the draft in private, but it's there.

I think Josh Allen the Wyoming QB may be one of those type of players. He didn't have a great year so a good bowl performance will help his rating.
11-27-2017 07:34 PM
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(11-27-2017 06:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  And so it starts...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-out-bowl/

my prediction is that this list gets a whole lot longer than anyone here will like.

Posted this a bunch of times relative to people who keep saying expand the playoffs.
If you are a lock for rounds 1-2 why risk playing extra games.
11-27-2017 09:55 PM
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RE: Players missing bowl games for NFL draft
(11-27-2017 09:55 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(11-27-2017 06:31 PM)stever20 Wrote:  And so it starts...
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-out-bowl/

my prediction is that this list gets a whole lot longer than anyone here will like.

Posted this a bunch of times relative to people who keep saying expand the playoffs.
If you are a lock for rounds 1-2 why risk playing extra games.

I don't think the playoffs folks would skip but the ones that think losers of 1st round playoff games would go to play a bowl game are complete morons. Last year folks was just the tip of the iceberg.
11-27-2017 09:57 PM
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RE: Players missing bowl games for NFL draft
Can't think of a single good reason why a player like Williams who is pretty sure of going in the first three rounds of the NFL draft would need to play in the Cactus Bowl or the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl.
11-28-2017 01:33 AM
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(11-27-2017 06:51 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Good for them. They should be thinking of what is best for them. Everyone else does.

Agreed. Every game not in the playoffs after the season is irrelevant and needless. The risk is wholly assumed by the players, who don't make a dime. And if they get hurt, stand to lose quite a bit of change from their future employers.

I agree...this stiffing of the bowls by pro-bound players only gets bigger and more common until kids get paid or the playoff expands.

I'm looking at two or three guys at Penn State right now who don't have much to play for at that school who are about to get taken care of quite well in the pros. I really hope Saquon sits it out (I still think he already checked out after the Ohio State game)...it's the kind of player on the right kind of team (just on the outside of the playoff, forcing the real conversation about how useless the next-best bowls are) to force a badly needed, if not overdue discussion and accountability check. And I would be extremely impressed if the coach urged him to do so and publicly supported and broadcasted that.
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(11-28-2017 01:33 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Can't think of a single good reason why a player like Williams who is pretty sure of going in the first three rounds of the NFL draft would need to play in the Cactus Bowl or the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl.

Exactly. There is nothing he could do there in one game that would change NFL scouts' opinion of his value. He could only damage his pro stock.
11-28-2017 07:59 AM
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(11-27-2017 06:51 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Good for them. They should be thinking of what is best for them. Everyone else does.

This, If you are a guaranteed lock top 15 pick, I wouldn't play.
11-28-2017 09:21 AM
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RE: Players missing bowl games for NFL draft
(11-28-2017 01:33 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Can't think of a single good reason why a player like Williams who is pretty sure of going in the first three rounds of the NFL draft would need to play in the Cactus Bowl or the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl.

I was surprised he came back at all. He did make a huge difference in that West Virginia game.
11-28-2017 09:42 AM
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(11-27-2017 06:51 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  Good for them. They should be thinking of what is best for them. Everyone else does.

If the guy is a potential first round pick with guaranteed money, I'd absolutely skip the bowl game. The only exception MIGHT be if you were in the playoffs/championship and winning could help your draft status.

Get hurt and drop out of the first round means giving away millions of dollars.

Only a fool would throw away that much money for a bowl gift bag.
11-28-2017 10:21 AM
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(11-28-2017 10:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  Get hurt and drop out of the first round means giving away millions of dollars.

Only a fool would throw away that much money for a bowl gift bag.

Michigan TE Jake Butt tore his ACL in the Orange Bowl last season and dropped all the way down to the 5th round in the NFL draft after being projected as a 2nd round pick before his injury. He still hasn't played at all for the Broncos and will spend the entire season on the injured reserve list.
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I don't think it will become as common as many people are predicting. For the most part guys wants to go out and play with their teammates.
11-28-2017 04:33 PM
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(11-28-2017 04:33 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  I don't think it will become as common as many people are predicting. For the most part guys wants to go out and play with their teammates.

I'd split the difference and say it becomes more like NFL preseason games 1 or 4...guys go in for a series or two and that's it. That's what I think is more likely to happen this year with top talent, more than guys just not playing at all, though, I think this year will see an increase in that to last year.
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While I realize the chance of injury involved, they are still quitting on their teams. That said, I remember McGahee destroying his knee in his last game. 04-cheers
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(11-28-2017 05:08 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  While I realize the chance of injury involved, they are still quitting on their teams. That said, I remember McGahee destroying his knee in his last game. 04-cheers

If they leave school after three years, when they first become eligible to be drafted, they are also quitting on their team. What difference does a meaningless exhibition game make?
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Will be very surprised if Justin Jackson plays for the NU Wildcats in their bowl, 4 straight 1000 yard plus seasons. He has nothing to prove in a bowl. Good thing the Cats have been working Jeremy Larkin (Barry's son) into the offense
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If a player is a top 10 first round pick, I understand sitting out. Otherwise, the bowl could help move the player up in the draft. One example, Chubb at NCSU will be a first round pick. I don't think he is in the top 10 yet so a bowl could help him but I would understand completely if sits out the NCSU bowl game.
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