Someone here has time on their hands.

We need to see the composite AAC football recruiting rankings for last 5 years.

This tells us if UCF and Memphis are winning based on talent recruited or everyone else just has coaches that suck. Obviously there are many factors at play but I would like to see the rankings averaged for the past 5 years. Memphis appears to have hit a home run with 2 consecutive hires.

(11-27-2017 02:47 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Someone here has time on their hands.

We need to see the composite AAC football recruiting rankings for last 5 years.

This tells us if UCF and Memphis are winning based on talent recruited or everyone else just has coaches that suck. Obviously there are many factors at play but I would like to see the rankings averaged for the past 5 years. Memphis appears to have hit a home run with 2 consecutive hires.

Our recruiting numbers under Fuente are probably nowhere near as good as they are under Norvell. Norvell is an offensive mastermind. (Fuente and his staff at Memphis visited Norvell at Az State to study his schemes.)

Fuente was great at spotting and developing talent.

Norvell is a great recruiter, and a great offensive mind.

Two different types of coaches, but had similar great results.

(11-27-2017 02:47 PM)willhclark Wrote:  Someone here has time on their hands.

We need to see the composite AAC football recruiting rankings for last 5 years.

This tells us if UCF and Memphis are winning based on talent recruited or everyone else just has coaches that suck. Obviously there are many factors at play but I would like to see the rankings averaged for the past 5 years. Memphis appears to have hit a home run with 2 consecutive hires.

OK, I was adequately worried about how bare the cupboard is now that we're graduating many of our best players, so I took on the challenge. I used Rivals as the basis for this, and simply used Rivals rankings for each year. For years where classes weren't ranked, I put those teams on the bottom, and ranked those classes simply based on the number of commits. If you use those rankings, you come up with the following:

Scoring all classes from 2012 through 2017 (accounts for all redshirts including potential medical redshirts), it goes:

1 - USF
2 - Cincinnati
3 - Houston
4 - UCF
5 - Memphis
6 - Temple
7 - East Carolina
8 - SMU
9 - Tulsa
10 - UConn
11 - Tulane
12 - Navy

2013-17:

1 - USF
2 - Cincinnati
3 - UCF
4 - Houston
5 - Temple
6 - Memphis
7 - SMU
8 - Tulsa
9 - East Carolina
10 - UConn
11 - Tulane
12 - Navy

2014-17:

1 - UCF
2 - USF
3 - Cincinnati
4 - Houston
5 - Temple
6 - Memphis
7 - East Carolina
8 - SMU
9 - Tulsa
10 - Navy
11 - Tulane
12 - UConn

2015-17

1 - UCF
2 - USF
3 - Cincinnati
4 - Memphis
5 - Houston
6 - Temple
7 - SMU
8 - East Carolina
9 - Tulsa
10 - Navy
11 - UConn
12 - Tulane

2016-17

1 - UCF
2 - Houston
3 - USF
4 - Memphis
5 - Cincinnati
6 - East Carolina
7 - Temple
8 - SMU
9 - Tulsa
10 - Navy
11 - Tulane
12 - UConn

Based on this, I'm feeling a little better about USF's prospects next year (I thought we might struggle to go .500, but we ought to do better than that). It also looks like O'Leary must have been an awful recruiter at the end (look how much UCF's last couple of classes have really improved their recruiting rankings). Further, I'd argue that this suggests that Rhule, Fuente and Norvell have been great coaches (compared to recruiting) while Taggart was so-so and Tubberville was flat out awful. Also, things don't look rosy for UConn or Tulane!

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