(11-26-2017 09:51 AM)fsquid Wrote:  They all look the same to JMU. Back to the OP, Denzel has being saying this for years.

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He's never been wrong, no reason to switch it up.

(11-25-2017 11:43 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 11:41 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 11:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Why can't it be both...? Lack of strong role models AND a system of oppression ?

It makes complete sense that you would prefer this approach. You have demonstrated that you are comfortable both with making bets and welching on those very same bets, so why not be comfortable blaming both deadbeat dads and society for failures in personal accountability?

Loser.

... no father figure there

And add in the overwhelming motherly figure.... tada!

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(11-25-2017 08:55 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  It’s Not The Justice System, It’s The Upbringing And Lack Of Father Figure





He speaks the truth....And now he will be called a racist by SJW's and BLM.

Quote:Denzel Washington says upbringing and a lack of father figures are to blame for many young men ending up in jail.

The Oscar winner, 62, was speaking at the premiere of his latest film, Roman J. Israel, Esq., in which he stars as an idealistic defense attorney whose life is upended when his partner, the firm’s front man, dies.

Asked if the film made him feel more cynical about the justice system, the star replied: ‘It starts at home.’

Speaking to NY Daily News, he added: ‘It starts with how you raise your children. If a young man doesn’t have a father figure, he’ll go find a father figure.

‘So you know I can’t blame the system. It’s unfortunate that we make such easy work for them.’

In an earlier interview, the actor touched upon some of his own experiences growing up.

‘I grew up with guys who did decades (in prison) and it had as much to do with their fathers not being in their lives as it did to do with any system,’ he told Reuters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...gures.html

Amen.

The lack of a male figure in the household is the greatest single indicator of vastly increased percentages of incarceration, violent behavior, teen suicide, drug abuse, high school drop out, emotional disorders, teen pregnancy, teen abortion and a host of other awful things.

(11-26-2017 10:16 AM)shere khan Wrote:  The most important thing a man can do is be a good father. Kids dont ask to be born.

Here here

Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

And we are back to the lack of personal responsibility and the desire to always blame someone else.

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

(11-27-2017 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

Well the black people I grew up with and hang out with haven't committed any crimes and they have somehow managed to avoid jail so I tend to think that is a fairly important first step.

But in full knowledge of you being nothing more than a bigoted troll I really can;t wait to see what kind of BS retort to that you put up.

(11-27-2017 04:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

Well the black people I grew up with and hang out with haven't committed any crimes and they have somehow managed to avoid jail so I tend to think that is a fairly important first step.

But in full knowledge of you being nothing more than a bigoted troll I really can;t wait to see what kind of BS retort to that you put up.

Of course that is an important first step but it is easier said than done depending on the environment you grew up in. Did you and your friends grow up in the inner city?

Face it. People are falsely accused of crimes all the time. Do you honestly think that Black people are not falsely accused of crimes less than any other race?

(11-27-2017 04:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Of course that is an important first step but it is easier said than done depending on the environment you grew up in. Did you and your friends grow up in the inner city?

Of course we didn't. We grew up in a rural community. You know, the type you accused of wanting to rape you because you are different in a thread earlier today. Bigot.

Quote:Face it. People are falsely accused of crimes all the time. Do you honestly think that Black people are not falsely accused of crimes less than any other race?

The only people I know of that have ever been falsely accused of crimes were all white. They were in a position of being falsely accused because despite not committing the crime they did regularly associate with criminal elements themselves.

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

I would say it is a contributor in regard to the "War on drugs".

The problem goes deep. It starts with the break down or total lack the traditional family unit... and goes steadily downhill from there. When 65% of black children are born out of wedlock? We have a fcking major problem with morality, responsibility and simple fcking judgement. We have a couple of entire generations of young black kids without fathers and without guidance. We are reaping the devastation of this daily on the streets of every major city. The Black market drug trade and its inherent violence are destroying our youth and our cities day by day.

(11-27-2017 09:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

I would say it is a contributor in regard to the "War on drugs".

The problem goes deep. It starts with the break down or total lack the traditional family unit... and goes steadily downhill from there. When 65% of black children are born out of wedlock? We have a fcking major problem with morality, responsibility and simple fcking judgement. We have a couple of entire generations of young black kids without fathers and without guidance. We are reaping the devastation of this daily on the streets of every major city. The Black market drug trade and its inherent violence are destroying our youth and our cities day by day.

Sadly the number of black children born out of wedlock is over 70%.

(11-27-2017 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

Ummm yes?

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(11-28-2017 12:08 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

Ummm yes?

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I think you will agree with this.............for too many, it has become a rite of passage based on decades of intentionally corralling those into urban centers.....toss in subsidized 'birthing' and a completely insolvent public education system, and it becomes the 'why' that scenario currently exists....

at some point, one can only hope that economic policy is developed that helps (as opposed to status quo) those that have the ability to mentally escape "that" 'jail cell'....

until congress gets up off their collective arses???

#miredinquicksand

(11-28-2017 12:08 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

You do realize that your convoluted leftist talking point directly contradicts your initial answer right?

The justice system did not make them a criminal, their own criminal acts made them a criminal. Being involved with the justice system isn't the cause, it is a result of your own actions.

I have a strong desire to not be arrested, so thus far in my life I haven't committed any crimes that I could be arrested for. I don't do or sell drugs. I don't drink and drive. I don't steal. This strategy will work for anyone regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.

It's called personal responsibility and despite what you leftists think it's not a negative trait to have.

So you think all black people have to do is not commit any crimes and they are golden. My how naive.

Ummm yes?

lol, well played. It's like NOT committing crimes is actually a detriment to some folks and beyond the real of expectations.

(11-27-2017 02:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

So it's the justice system's fault that the child's father is a criminal?

In some cases yes.

It is common knowledge that drug abuse for example is the same among all races yet African Americans are disproportionately convicted and sentenced.

We've gone of this before.

Blacks and whites can be guilty of the same crime but Blacks are more likely to see jail time.

It's a well established fact.

Fitbud, the eternal victim.


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(11-27-2017 09:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Denzel says it's not the Justice System it's the lack of a father but what he fails to realize is that it's often times because of the Justice System that there is a lack of a father.

I would say it is a contributor in regard to the "War on drugs".

The problem goes deep. It starts with the break down or total lack the traditional family unit... and goes steadily downhill from there. When 65% of black children are born out of wedlock? We have a fcking major problem with morality, responsibility and simple fcking judgement. We have a couple of entire generations of young black kids without fathers and without guidance. We are reaping the devastation of this daily on the streets of every major city. The Black market drug trade and its inherent violence are destroying our youth and our cities day by day.

How did we get to this point? Do you believe the conspiracy theories that the U.S. government actually allowed drugs to flow into the country to fund South American wars in the 80s?