(11-26-2017 02:24 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  Wish we had a bye week before this game.

Well we didn't get one last week either, so there's that.

I'm thinking 27-24 or 24-21 final, whoever wins.

Interesting scoring predictions. Two teams left that haven't given up more than 24 puts it in a game this season. Those being Wisconsin and Troy. This pits the highest scoring offense in the Sun Belt vs the defense that gives up the least scoring-wise. I'm pumped to see how this one turns out.

Both teams have had their collective struggles on special teams ( our punter is kicking FGs since our kicker had a bout of stage fright to begin the season ) so coverage teams could be the keys to success in this one...

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I hope Neal Brown pulls out all the stops offensively, and Vic Koenning has his best defensive game plan of the year.

(11-27-2017 11:18 AM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  Interesting scoring predictions. Two teams left that haven't given up more than 24 puts it in a game this season. Those being Wisconsin and Troy. This pits the highest scoring offense in the Sun Belt vs the defense that gives up the least scoring-wise. I'm pumped to see how this one turns out.

Both teams have had their collective struggles on special teams ( our punter is kicking FGs since our kicker had a bout of stage fright to begin the season ) so coverage teams could be the keys to success in this one...

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The higher scoring the game gets, the bigger advantage to AState. The lower scoring the game gets the bigger advantage to Troy.

Picking a low score based on Troy's specific ability to hold teams to less than an arbitrary score (24 points) is foolish, as is picking a high score based on AState's ability to put up an arbitrary score on offense.

We haven't seen an offense as good as Arkansas State since week one vs Boise, and they were breaking in a new cast of offensive skill players. Arkansas State hasn't seen a defense anywhere near this good all year. Interesting matchups. That's why I'm going with a middle of the road score, not high scoring, not low scoring.

Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

(11-27-2017 12:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

Hansen went out with a back injury midway 2Q of that game.

(11-27-2017 12:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

Freshman QB playing his first real game. Did not go well.

(11-27-2017 12:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

I think all of that stuff goes out the window. Yes, Troy has won against 3 teams with wining records, (LSU / Akron / Georgia St.) - but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.

Comparing like opponents, stAte has performed just as well or better. stAte also has been much better at home this year.

So as I mentioned, take all of that stuff and throw it out the window. Saturday should be about turnovers, penalties, and field position.

I have a lot of respect for Troy and Coach Brown. They are a very good football team. I would rather see stAte face Silvers and Troy's traditional offense over the ULM offense with their dual threat QB.

(11-27-2017 12:54 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 12:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

I think all of that stuff goes out the window. Yes, Troy has won against 3 teams with wining records, (LSU / Akron / Georgia St.) - but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.

Comparing like opponents, stAte has performed just as well or better. stAte also has been much better at home this year.

So as I mentioned, take all of that stuff and throw it out the window. Saturday should be about turnovers, penalties, and field position.

I have a lot of respect for Troy and Coach Brown. They are a very good football team. I would rather see stAte face Silvers and Troy's traditional offense over the ULM offense with their dual threat QB.

It all means something. How much or what exactly is only a guess at this point.


Only a totally different subject can someone give me a solid review of Jtown’s Grill on gameday?

but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.


This debate makes me extremely happy.

(11-27-2017 01:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 12:54 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 12:06 PM)Hemi Man Wrote:  Arkansas St has only played one team this year with a winning record. They lost that game.

I think all of that stuff goes out the window. Yes, Troy has won against 3 teams with wining records, (LSU / Akron / Georgia St.) - but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.

Comparing like opponents, stAte has performed just as well or better. stAte also has been much better at home this year.

So as I mentioned, take all of that stuff and throw it out the window. Saturday should be about turnovers, penalties, and field position.

I have a lot of respect for Troy and Coach Brown. They are a very good football team. I would rather see stAte face Silvers and Troy's traditional offense over the ULM offense with their dual threat QB.

It all means something. How much or what exactly is only a guess at this point.


Only a totally different subject can someone give me a solid review of Jtown’s Grill on gameday?

Generally crowded. Food is good. They do some weird combinations on sandwiches but it's all good.

(11-27-2017 03:06 PM)jag313 Wrote:  but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.


This debate makes me extremely happy.

He obivously didn't watch our game with you guys. They were nearly identical in terms of mistakes made, and USA playing with ambition in both games. The stats for both games were also very similar.

(11-27-2017 03:47 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:06 PM)jag313 Wrote:  but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.


This debate makes me extremely happy.

He obivously didn't watch our game with you guys. They were nearly identical in terms of mistakes made, and USA playing with ambition in both games. The stats for both games were also very similar.

I did watch it, although probably not as close as you. Did you watch the USA / stAte game?
I don't have an idea about the stats. However, I don't recall Troy having 3 opportunities to win in the last few minutes of the game like stAte. Troy didn't drop a pass in the end zone on first down, fumble the ball reaching for the end zone on second down and then stop USA only to throw an interception - all for the go ahead touchdown.

(11-27-2017 04:03 PM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:47 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:06 PM)jag313 Wrote:  but were also beaten soundly by USA at home, while stAte more or less gave the game to USA.


This debate makes me extremely happy.

He obivously didn't watch our game with you guys. They were nearly identical in terms of mistakes made, and USA playing with ambition in both games. The stats for both games were also very similar.

I did watch it, although probably not as close as you. Did you watch the USA / stAte game?
I don't have an idea about the stats. However, I don't recall Troy having 3 opportunities to win in the last few minutes of the game like stAte. Troy didn't drop a pass in the end zone on first down, fumble the ball reaching for the end zone on second down and then stop USA only to throw an interception - all for the go ahead touchdown.

We had four turnovers which is extremely uncharacteristic of Troy. Our punt returner muffed a punt and gave USA great field position which I'm not sure is even recorded as a turnover since he never had possession to begin with. You may have made a few more mistakes, but we both lost because we shot ourselves in the foot, not because we suck offensively and defensively.

(11-27-2017 11:50 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 11:18 AM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  Interesting scoring predictions. Two teams left that haven't given up more than 24 puts it in a game this season. Those being Wisconsin and Troy. This pits the highest scoring offense in the Sun Belt vs the defense that gives up the least scoring-wise. I'm pumped to see how this one turns out.

Both teams have had their collective struggles on special teams ( our punter is kicking FGs since our kicker had a bout of stage fright to begin the season ) so coverage teams could be the keys to success in this one...

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The higher scoring the game gets, the bigger advantage to AState. The lower scoring the game gets the bigger advantage to Troy.

Picking a low score based on Troy's specific ability to hold teams to less than an arbitrary score (24 points) is foolish, as is picking a high score based on AState's ability to put up an arbitrary score on offense.

To be honest, that was not my doing. It has been a "stat" that was out there weeks ago when about 5 teams in the country were included. the bammers and Notre Dame just feel off recently. Could possibly have been the Athletic dept...but, don't quote me on that...

Turnovers are part of the game. Not being able to make accurate throws or hold onto the ball is still a major flaw.

(11-27-2017 04:54 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  Turnovers are part of the game. Not being able to make accurate throws or hold onto the ball is still a major flaw.

Right. And we both equally sucked at it that night and haven't since. The OP was trying to suggest that their moral loss compared to how Troy played them was somehow indicative of a better team.

Speaking of defense, Ja'von Rolland-Jones only needs one sack to tie Terrell Suggs and 1.5 to pass him.

It would be nice of Silvers to be his normal statute self so he'll know where to find him.