(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

PAC12 is the same way.

(11-25-2017 12:49 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:46 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

You've been naive

If you're saying Gonzaga wouldn't be interested in playing these programs bellow on a regular basis than you just proved you are a complete troll.

Cincinnati
Memphis
UConn
Temple
Houston
SMU
Wichita State

If AAC offered Gonzaga would sign immediately... But you have nothing to worry about, AAC isn't interested.

Playing those teams and joining that conference are two very different things. Would they want them in OOC match ups? Sure! Would they want to send their volleyball team to ECU and their tennis team to USF? Not really.

Ohio State sends their football team to Rutgers, I don’t see the issue???

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

God no to an addition to a team in Washington State. If we are going to add basketball teams then look towards the east/central.

Let's lose the g4 mentality

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

There is no way that BYU joins the AAC in anything more than a "Football only" affiliate member. So...no...BYU would not "leave" the WCC.

On another, completely serious note, there is no way a "Coast-to-Coast" all-sports conference works. The travel would be horrendous. The time-zones kill viewership. The sheer geographic stretch inhibits rivalries.

CUSA got as close as you can to making it work. The Big XII is hamstrung by this and it is a serious issue as to that conference's ability to be stable over the long-term...and they only span two time-zones. If the AAC ever added teams from the Mountain time-zone, you'd have games spanning three whole time-zones. Imagine ECU kicking off at 9:00pm eastern to accommodate BYU? Imagine BYU fans in Provo trying to regularly get up to watch the Cougars kick-off at 10:00am for a noon kick in Hartford? And, speaking as someone who lives in Morgantown and watches WVU have to tip-off at insane hours...in the middle of the week...basketball season is even worse.

And that's not even counting the nightmares that would follow if we included Pacific time-zone teams like SDSU into the mix.

and to the people downplaying byu

their tv deal more than doubled when byu was added..and its still tiny, about 400k per
https://www.loyalcougars.com/2015/03/23/...7-to-2012/

people dont realize the impact of money...becuase they go to a church league they want to take 80% less for fun...

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

G4 mentality

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

(11-25-2017 01:40 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

G4 mentality

Congrats on being on the cusp of your second big bowl game. Winning 2 BCS/NY6 bowls would be big for you guys. Not many G5 teams get that opportunity

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:09 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

you missed the hypothetical that byu leaves...byu leaving drastically changes the wcc

There is no way that BYU joins the AAC in anything more than a "Football only" affiliate member. So...no...BYU would not "leave" the WCC.

On another, completely serious note, there is no way a "Coast-to-Coast" all-sports conference works. The travel would be horrendous. The time-zones kill viewership. The sheer geographic stretch inhibits rivalries.

CUSA got as close as you can to making it work. The Big XII is hamstrung by this and it is a serious issue as to that conference's ability to be stable over the long-term...and they only span two time-zones. If the AAC ever added teams from the Mountain time-zone, you'd have games spanning three whole time-zones. Imagine ECU kicking off at 9:00pm eastern to accommodate BYU? Imagine BYU fans in Provo trying to regularly get up to watch the Cougars kick-off at 10:00am for a noon kick in Hartford? And, speaking as someone who lives in Morgantown and watches WVU have to tip-off at insane hours...in the middle of the week...basketball season is even worse.

And that's not even counting the nightmares that would follow if we included Pacific time-zone teams like SDSU into the mix.

this wouldnt be a 10 member conference where you have to fly and meet every member...half the acc/sec meet twice every decade and have to schedule each other as OOC...the hypothetical would have us bigger than they are....

at 16, you can have a true west division and a true east division, who would rarely meet...the non revenue, if it was that bad, could be relegated to 2 sub conferences of 8, who never play

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:12 PM)fanhood Wrote:  No, it doesn't. The WCC was the WCC before BYU, and would be the same without it.

Most people here don't understand BYU, just like they don't understand the outlook of the parochial schools in the WCC. They just look at things differently. It is what it is.

if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  if you honestly think gonzaga cherishes the wcc so much that they enjoy 27 win season ending up in 8-11 seed teams..and requiring to need 30 wins seasons to get good tourney bids you are blind..

you could argue the same about wichita....yet they were beginning to join anyone.. gonzaga is actually the second neest member of the wcc, and only joined in the 80s..let not make some church thing out of this...

Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

(11-25-2017 12:49 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:46 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 12:16 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Went to law school at GU. They are not coming to the AAC, ever. They spitballed thinking about that he big east a few years back but are happy in the WCC

You've been naive

If you're saying Gonzaga wouldn't be interested in playing these programs bellow on a regular basis than you just proved you are a complete troll.

Cincinnati
Memphis
UConn
Temple
Houston
SMU
Wichita State

If AAC offered Gonzaga would sign immediately... But you have nothing to worry about, AAC isn't interested.

Playing those teams and joining that conference are two very different things. Would they want them in OOC match ups? Sure! Would they want to send their volleyball team to ECU and their tennis team to USF? Not really.

For once I have yo agree with this dude...

(11-25-2017 02:09 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:31 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Gonzaga has been a 1 seed and won over 35 million in tournament credits, played for the natty. What are they missing out on?

you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

mathematically you are correct...we arent getting gonzaga without byu..so you have to add the byu odds to the gonzaga odds

but if we get byu (and a true west), getting gonzaga won't be difficult
300k tv, 26 wins=9 seed, lots of espnu conference games
3mil tv, 26 wins= 3 seed, lots of cbs/abc games ..path to true blueblood

(11-25-2017 02:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:09 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:37 PM)pesik Wrote:  you could make that argument for butler and wichita but both jumped in heartbeat to a bigger conference

look at gonzagas seed, if they arent have a 34-3 type season they are getting horrible seeding...saying we got a 1 seed that 1 time..isnt a long term plan

Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

mathematically you are correct...we arent getting gonzaga without byu..so you have to add the byu odds to the gonzaga odds

but if we get byu (and a true west), getting gonzaga won't be difficult
300k tv, 26 wins=9 seed, lots of espnu conference games
3mil tv, 26 wins= 3 seed, lots of cbs/abc games ..path to true blueblood

In the last 5 years Gonzaga has been a #1 seed two times and a 2 seed once guy. Wouldn't be any better here.

(11-25-2017 02:30 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:09 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

mathematically you are correct...we arent getting gonzaga without byu..so you have to add the byu odds to the gonzaga odds

but if we get byu (and a true west), getting gonzaga won't be difficult
300k tv, 26 wins=9 seed, lots of espnu conference games
3mil tv, 26 wins= 3 seed, lots of cbs/abc games ..path to true blueblood

In the last 5 years Gonzaga has been a #1 seed two times and a 2 seed once guy. Wouldn't be any better here.

Of course they won't be better, their schedule here won't be a cupcake

(11-25-2017 02:30 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:09 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:41 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  Because they increased revenue. Joining the AAC would not move the financial needle for GU. WCC has been a 2+ bid league most years. The MVC wasn't.

wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

mathematically you are correct...we arent getting gonzaga without byu..so you have to add the byu odds to the gonzaga odds

but if we get byu (and a true west), getting gonzaga won't be difficult
300k tv, 26 wins=9 seed, lots of espnu conference games
3mil tv, 26 wins= 3 seed, lots of cbs/abc games ..path to true blueblood

In the last 5 years Gonzaga has been a #1 seed two times and a 2 seed once guy. Wouldn't be any better here.

do you cherry pick all your stats
2006–07 Mark Few 23–11 (10 seed)
2007–08 Mark Few 25–8 (7 seed)
2008–09 Mark Few 28–6 (4 seed)
2009–10 Mark Few 27–7 (8 seed)
2010–11 Mark Few 25–10 (11 seed)
2011–12 Mark Few 26–7 (7 seed)
2012–13 Mark Few 32–3 (1 seed)
2013–14 Mark Few 29–7 (8 seed)
2014–15 Mark Few 35–3 (2 seed)
2015–16 Mark Few 28–8 (11 seed)
2016–17 Mark Few 37–2 (1 seed)

these records in this conference would be drastically higher seeds...
35-3 and only a 2 seed....do you think they enjoy having no room for error..

in 2015 had 26 wins pre-tourney and was lower seeds than numerous sub 20 teams in their own bracket alone

(11-25-2017 02:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:30 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:20 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 02:09 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 01:52 PM)pesik Wrote:  wcc tv revenue before byu was 200k, and with byu is about 440k...
with our currently bad tv deal we could more than double that with ease...not even considering what our new deal might be..

if we get the 4-6mil per deal we are hoping for, we could offer them 2-3 mill year.. and the 4-6mil projection are with the current members ...adding byu/ sdsu and potential gonzaga who knows the value

and just general ncaa distrubiton gonzaga by itself makes 61% of all wcc shares.. wcc is a 2 bid league becuase of gonzaga (and partly from byu)...those shares/earnong potential transfer to the aac, they can make that here...

Justify it 1,000 different ways. Gonzaga will never be in the AAC, and neither will BYU. Hell, you have a better chance of getting BYU, than you do Gonzaga, and that is saying something.

mathematically you are correct...we arent getting gonzaga without byu..so you have to add the byu odds to the gonzaga odds

but if we get byu (and a true west), getting gonzaga won't be difficult
300k tv, 26 wins=9 seed, lots of espnu conference games
3mil tv, 26 wins= 3 seed, lots of cbs/abc games ..path to true blueblood

In the last 5 years Gonzaga has been a #1 seed two times and a 2 seed once guy. Wouldn't be any better here.

do you cherry pick all your stats
2006–07 Mark Few 23–11 (10 seed)
2007–08 Mark Few 25–8 (7 seed)
2008–09 Mark Few 28–6 (4 seed)
2009–10 Mark Few 27–7 (8 seed)
2010–11 Mark Few 25–10 (11 seed)
2011–12 Mark Few 26–7 (7 seed)
2012–13 Mark Few 32–3 (1 seed)
2013–14 Mark Few 29–7 (8 seed)
2014–15 Mark Few 35–3 (2 seed)
2015–16 Mark Few 28–8 (11 seed)
2016–17 Mark Few 37–2 (1 seed)

these records in this conference would be drastically higher seeds...
35-3 and only a 2 seed....do you think they enjoy having no room for error..

in 2015 had 26 wins pre-tourney and was lower seeds than numerous sub 20 teams in their own bracket alone

How many #1 and #2 seeds has the AAC produced since it's inception?