(11-25-2017 02:23 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Candle is a great talker... He is just stern. A very down to business guy. Why smile when there is nothing to smile about? He is goal oriented and you see that with our teams production level.

Agree completely. Saban isn't Mr. Personality either.

A lot of SEC jobs open. Will have a domino effect

I bet Campbell ends up in SEC

Candle to Iowa State

Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

I think Campbell will leave Iowa State. The buyout will be negotiated down on the premise that Candle becomes the new head coach. Manning the OL couch at ISU will become Toledo's next head coach. Then I will win the Powerball.

I dont think Matt Campbell will leave. He is getting paid really well at ISU and expectations are realistic there.

I think if Scott Frost does not take Nebraska, Campbell becomes the next top candidate.

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

(11-26-2017 05:59 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

Agree---it certainly didn't make Evans look good.....or his "academic mentor" Henry Moon, a future provost at UT. Locally it was claimed to be an ambush/hit piece but whether that was true or not, it was certainly not flattering to the University or any of those associated with it.

Nebraska got greedy. 9 wins wasn't enough and the option wasn't cool enough. They've certainly paid the price for that.

(11-26-2017 07:28 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:59 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

Agree---it certainly didn't make Evans look good.....or his "academic mentor" Henry Moon, a future provost at UT. Locally it was claimed to be an ambush/hit piece but whether that was true or not, it was certainly not flattering to the University or any of those associated with it.

Jerry was my roommate...the writer definitely saw an opportunity to exploit a kid who was naive and way too trusting of him. I can't remember the guys name (Doug something?)but he basically hung around Jerry for 3-4 weeks and saw an easy mark. We warned him that he was going to print things from their day to day conversations, but Jerry felt they were friends and everything was off the record. Basically everything was taken out of context or exaggerated. I felt horrible for Jerry when the article came out...not at all what he expected...tough lesson for a young guy.

(11-26-2017 09:48 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 07:28 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:59 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

Agree---it certainly didn't make Evans look good.....or his "academic mentor" Henry Moon, a future provost at UT. Locally it was claimed to be an ambush/hit piece but whether that was true or not, it was certainly not flattering to the University or any of those associated with it.

Jerry was my roommate...the writer definitely saw an opportunity to exploit a kid who was naive and way too trusting of him. I can't remember the guys name (Doug something?)but he basically hung around Jerry for 3-4 weeks and saw an easy mark. We warned him that he was going to print things from their day to day conversations, but Jerry felt they were friends and everything was off the record. Basically everything was taken out of context or exaggerated. I felt horrible for Jerry when the article came out...not at all what he expected...tough lesson for a young guy.

Article if you need it..

Break Out the Bubbly - SI

FSU's Jimbo Fisher to Texas A&M.

Didn't read the entire thread, but with the early signing period coming up in less than a month (Dec. 20), losing a coach now could really hurt the class.

(11-27-2017 09:52 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Didn't read the entire thread, but with the early signing period coming up in less than a month (Dec. 20), losing a coach now could really hurt the class.

Often times these coaches bolt before their bowl game. Doesn't Dec 20 allow them plenty of time to lure recruits to wherever their new job is, or is there a dead period in there?

(11-26-2017 05:59 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:40 PM)rocketpaul Wrote:  

(11-25-2017 08:35 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Campbell reportedly has a $9M buyout in his contract with ISU, so some school, really, really has to want him to pay that. Even then I imagine there are only a handful of schools that could justfy that kind of buyout money in their budgets.

Arkansas or Nebraska would not blink at paying off that buyout IF they really want him both those jobs seem to be coach killers these days as well.

Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

I was down in Orlando around 1992 for a meeting - but went down ahead of time to hang out with some friends. We ended up at a nightclub and I recognized one of the guys in the place as being Jerry Evans. He was having a great time, drinking beer from a pitcher and probably with about 6-8 other guys. I believe he was playing for a team in the WFL or WAFL based in Orlando at that time - or he was playing for a team that had a game against the Orlando team. It was in mid to late March - and the WAFL played in the spring. Although his last season with UT was in 1990, his first season in the NFL was in 1993. He played 2 years in the NFL and had a total of 25 receptions for 251 yards and 3 TDs for Denver. 8th round pick in 1991.


Edit: Just looked up the roster for the Orlando Rage for 1992 and it does not list Evans. Tried to search other teams for his name on a roster and could not find it. After seeing him on that Saturday night, it's probably a good thing he was not playing the next day. Definitely looked like a fun guy - and was the life of that party...

(11-26-2017 10:20 PM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 09:48 PM)TampaRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 07:28 PM)T-Town Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:59 PM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 05:30 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Gotta believe Solich is chuckling to himself seeing the succession of coaches Nebraska has hired after he was let go.

BTW - Solich was on the cover of Sports Illustrated way back around 1967 as a player for Nebraska. I found that searching for something else related to SI covers.

I still remember the SI piece on Toledo back in the 90’s ... They interviewed future NFL tight end Jerry Evans... The article had segments that did not put a positive image on the Rocket program...

Agree---it certainly didn't make Evans look good.....or his "academic mentor" Henry Moon, a future provost at UT. Locally it was claimed to be an ambush/hit piece but whether that was true or not, it was certainly not flattering to the University or any of those associated with it.

Jerry was my roommate...the writer definitely saw an opportunity to exploit a kid who was naive and way too trusting of him. I can't remember the guys name (Doug something?)but he basically hung around Jerry for 3-4 weeks and saw an easy mark. We warned him that he was going to print things from their day to day conversations, but Jerry felt they were friends and everything was off the record. Basically everything was taken out of context or exaggerated. I felt horrible for Jerry when the article came out...not at all what he expected...tough lesson for a young guy.

Article if you need it..

Break Out the Bubbly - SI

I think kudos for the honesty. The SYSTEM was broken and we know it was much worse at many power schools. Evans and his family, the university I hope on revisit, see he was perhaps in some way, part of the solution.

It was long and perhaps I missed something, but was something blatantly unfair? I didn't see anywhere that the writer diminished the player. They were clear the workload just to compete in a university sports. I think that stood out, something most would not be aware.

I see Campbell is now on the list of Tennessee potentials. i hadn't thought of this but, it a big move by Campbell doesn't open the door for Candle at Iowa State, would Candle take the OC position at a place like Tennessee?

I hope Candle stays one more year. I really want this recruiting class. If he does leave I could understand why a recruit changes their mind. Really you are committing to a coaching staff and a scheme, not the school. The early signing period will be interesting. Will high profile mid-major recruits commit early or wait to see what happens with other "potential" offers?

(11-27-2017 11:49 AM)falconplucker Wrote:  I see Campbell is now on the list of Tennessee potentials. i hadn't thought of this but, it a big move by Campbell doesn't open the door for Candle at Iowa State, would Candle take the OC position at a place like Tennessee?

I hope Candle stays one more year. I really want this recruiting class. If he does leave I could understand why a recruit changes their mind. Really you are committing to a coaching staff and a scheme, not the school. The early signing period will be interesting. Will high profile mid-major recruits commit early or wait to see what happens with other "potential" offers?

Good points.

Unfortunately, unless Candle is comfortable enough to say very soon that he has no interest in leaving Toledo at this time and will be back for next season, then I'm afraid we won't have much of this bally-hood class actually signing during the upcoming early period. Sorry to be a downer. Months ago, I was excited about the concept of the December signing period...now, not so much. On the other hand, WMU is generally seen as having the #1 class coming in for the MAC, and their coaching situation is stable at least for next season, so they may even poach a recruit or two...