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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
Neither Notre Dame or BYU are part of the G5 or P5. Notre Dame may have the "Golden Ticket" but they are not in a P5 conference.

If we're gonna do that. Then add Tulane's win over Army and Temple's loss to Army. Then Temple's win against UMass. Indy is Indy 03-razz.

AAC is 7-13.

P5 wins and losses for all lol!
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
Such an awful year, they only have 3 teams in the top 25 and the Access spot locked up
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its UConns fault! 05-stirthepot
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
(11-19-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 08:57 AM)Chappy Wrote:  13% below the lowest P5 and 14% ahead of the next best G5. 18% behind the combined P5, and 17% ahead of the combined "G4". Not quite a power conference on the field, but ahead of the rest of the G5 by the same amount that we trail the big boys.

So, we're still in "tweener" land. 07-coffee3

And Aresco (along with every AAC president) would take that classification--especially if the next TV contract is commiserate with that "tweener" standing.
11-19-2017 02:41 PM
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
(11-19-2017 08:57 AM)Chappy Wrote:  The P5 haven't been able to beat our top teams either. The #8 team in the country barely slipped past our 4th or 5th best team last night.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, though... The p6 thing is strictly a marketing ploy, and I think it's working.

W% vs non-conference teams:

SEC - 86%
B1G - 76%
B12 - 67%
P12 - 77%
ACC - 71%

"P5" - 76%

AAC - 58%

"G4" - 41%

MAC - 44%
MWC - 44%
USA - 43%
SBC - 34%

13% below the lowest P5 and 14% ahead of the next best G5. 18% behind the combined P5, and 17% ahead of the combined "G4". Not quite a power conference on the field, but ahead of the rest of the G5 by the same amount that we trail the big boys.

3 Top 25 schools.

We are making progress, and that's with 2 of the 3 old Big East school's football teams in the crapper right now. Progress is being made, and with 1/10th the resources that the power schools have. Give it another few years. We're getting there.

Are those win percents just for this year?

In any case, non-conference records alone don't tell you very much. You need to look at the quality of the opponents.
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
Maybe they can hire Jurich to show those lowly h5 losers how the big boys play
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(11-19-2017 02:58 PM)Pensionplug Wrote:  Maybe they can hire Jurich to show those lowly h5 losers how the big boys play

When did they start allowing UGLA's here?
11-19-2017 08:51 PM
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(11-19-2017 08:51 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 02:58 PM)Pensionplug Wrote:  Maybe they can hire Jurich to show those lowly h5 losers how the big boys play

When did they start allowing UGLA's here?

You must go to LCC. Don’t you get the h5 reference?
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
"Another sad year for the AAC"

AAC only has 3 football programs ranked... The OP is 100% correct, this is definitely a sad year for The AAC.


I love it.
11-19-2017 11:21 PM
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
(11-19-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 08:57 AM)Chappy Wrote:  13% below the lowest P5 and 14% ahead of the next best G5. 18% behind the combined P5, and 17% ahead of the combined "G4". Not quite a power conference on the field, but ahead of the rest of the G5 by the same amount that we trail the big boys.

So, we're still in "tweener" land. 07-coffee3
So a member of the T1, tweener 1.
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(11-19-2017 01:18 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  Such an awful year, they only have 3 teams in the top 25 and the Access spot locked up

Such an awful year, they have the same number of ranked teams as the ACC.
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(11-19-2017 09:55 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 08:57 AM)Chappy Wrote:  13% below the lowest P5 and 14% ahead of the next best G5. 18% behind the combined P5, and 17% ahead of the combined "G4". Not quite a power conference on the field, but ahead of the rest of the G5 by the same amount that we trail the big boys.

So, we're still in "tweener" land. 07-coffee3

Except for real, and not just in our own minds.

Depends on what we mean by "for real". In terms of on-field performance, yes. But in terms of actual status within the money and power structure, we're still firmly G5, and let's face it, that matters far more than performance on the field.

After all, the "P" stands for "Power", not "Performance".
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(11-19-2017 11:35 AM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Neither Notre Dame or BYU are part of the G5 or P5.

That's silly. Notre Dame is clearly a part of the P5. They even have contract status with the Orange Bowl.
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(11-19-2017 02:41 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 09:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 08:57 AM)Chappy Wrote:  13% below the lowest P5 and 14% ahead of the next best G5. 18% behind the combined P5, and 17% ahead of the combined "G4". Not quite a power conference on the field, but ahead of the rest of the G5 by the same amount that we trail the big boys.

So, we're still in "tweener" land. 07-coffee3

And Aresco (along with every AAC president) would take that classification--especially if the next TV contract is commiserate with that "tweener" standing.

Absolutely. I suspect, though, that achieving 'tweener' in that sense is going to be more difficult than doing it on the field.
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RE: Another sad year for the AAC
Another sad post from a MWC fan.
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The AAC of today is the MWC of yesteryear: good at the top, mediocre to horrible from the middle to the bottom.
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(11-20-2017 11:31 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The AAC of today is the MWC of yesteryear: good at the top, mediocre to horrible from the middle to the bottom.

Good comparison.
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(11-20-2017 08:04 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 11:35 AM)AubTiger16 Wrote:  Neither Notre Dame or BYU are part of the G5 or P5.

That's silly. Notre Dame is clearly a part of the P5. They even have contract status with the Orange Bowl.

And, Notre Dame has a vote in the autonomy structure.
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(11-20-2017 11:31 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The AAC of today is the MWC of yesteryear: good at the top, mediocre to horrible from the middle to the bottom.

Ehhh. All conferences are horrible at the bottom. The legit comparison is how does the bottom and middle compare to the middle and bottom of other conferences. Tulsa, one of the bottom teams lost 54-51 to Toledo, beat UL-L 66-42, and lost ot New Mexico 16-13. Another bottom team (Cinci) beat Miami Ohio 21-17 and Austin Peavy (but got smoked by Marshall and Michigan losing by 2 or more TD's). Tulane beat Army and Grambling--but lost to FIU.

So, the bottom of the AAC seems to win against the bottom teams from other conferences and mostly loses to the better teams from other conferences. Really, other than UConn---the bottom of the AAC isnt bad at all in comparison to the bottom of other G5's.
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(11-20-2017 12:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-20-2017 11:31 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The AAC of today is the MWC of yesteryear: good at the top, mediocre to horrible from the middle to the bottom.

Ehhh. All conferences are horrible at the bottom. The legit comparison is how does the bottom and middle compare to the middle and bottom of other conferences. Tulsa, one of the bottom teams lost 54-51 to Toledo, beat UL-L 66-42, and lost ot New Mexico 16-13. Another bottom team (Cinci) beat Miami Ohio 21-17 and Austin Peavy (but got smoked by Marshall and Michigan losing by 2 or more TD's). Tulane beat Army and Grambling--but lost to FIU.

So, the bottom of the AAC seems to win against the bottom teams from other conferences and mostly loses to the better teams from other conferences. Really, other than UConn---the bottom of the AAC isnt bad at all in comparison to the bottom of other G5's.

The difference is the other G5 conferences are not claiming to be a power conference. The only one that did was the MWC which often took jabs on the Big East and claimed to be the 7th AQ league (sounds familiar?) And that was a MWC that had a better trio at the top and beat multiple AQ schools than what the AAC has.
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