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ODU @ MTSU
I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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I believe that this is the year!!!
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(11-20-2017 07:50 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  I believe that this is the year!!!
4 weeks ago I didn't think we deserved a bowl even if we got 4 wins. Now I think we deserve whatever we get, which still may be nothing even if we win Saturday. But winning Saturday will be sweet indeed and add to our strong season finishes and growing November legacy.
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(11-18-2017 06:16 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Stevie "Wonder" Williams.

Steven "Crazy Legs" Williams - when he takes off those legs look like they are going in every direction, but end up going North-South. COGS
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(11-19-2017 05:47 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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Seems right to me. MTSU passes the eye test. They look like the better team especially with Stockstill back. Also, ODU didn't impress anyone by barely escaping a 1-10 Rice team. Anything can happen and hopefully we find a way.
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Stockstill has a funky delivery.
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I know you have to beat your rival to make it a rivalry but is MTSU the opponent we need for rivalry week? I hate MTSU probably more than any other C-USA team. Lets go ODU! #BeatMTSU
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Seems like I am in the minority here, but I don't think MTSU looks markedly better than us. If we don't turn the ball over, and can get some pressure on Stockstill so he doesn't eat us up underneath, I think we have a good shot in this one.
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(11-19-2017 05:47 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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Recent history says it will be a one score game OR we will lose by 30.
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(11-20-2017 10:37 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems like I am in the minority here, but I don't think MTSU looks markedly better than us. If we don't turn the ball over, and can get some pressure on Stockstill so he doesn't eat us up underneath, I think we have a good shot in this one.

We can't get pressure on a QB when we play 10-12 yards off receivers. Its been the struggle all year and any decent quarterback is going to eat us up 5 yards at a time.
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(11-20-2017 10:40 AM)DWING Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 05:47 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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Recent history says it will be a one score game OR we will lose by 30.
True that. I'd love to win again like our "burned Rice" finish but I don't think my heart can take it.
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(11-20-2017 10:46 AM)odufansam Wrote:  
(11-20-2017 10:37 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems like I am in the minority here, but I don't think MTSU looks markedly better than us. If we don't turn the ball over, and can get some pressure on Stockstill so he doesn't eat us up underneath, I think we have a good shot in this one.

We can't get pressure on a QB when we play 10-12 yards off receivers. Its been the struggle all year and any decent quarterback is going to eat us up 5 yards at a time.
Like FIU did? How did that work out for them?

I get your point though. We should play the defense that wins us the game and that strategy worked well enough to win the game.
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(11-20-2017 10:46 AM)odufansam Wrote:  
(11-20-2017 10:37 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems like I am in the minority here, but I don't think MTSU looks markedly better than us. If we don't turn the ball over, and can get some pressure on Stockstill so he doesn't eat us up underneath, I think we have a good shot in this one.

We can't get pressure on a QB when we play 10-12 yards off receivers. Its been the struggle all year and any decent quarterback is going to eat us up 5 yards at a time.

We are #23 in the nation in sacks.

I am as annoyed as anybody about the soft zone coverage. I have always hated, but to act like we can't stop anybody and question whether we have any chance doing what we are doing during a 3 game winning streak is pretty unreasonable. Our defense has been pretty good since our offense stopped being awful.

I found myself bitching about the conservative offense we play whenever we get a lead, and the fact that we are a lot better offensively when we play fast, after the Rice game, then remembered we haven't turned the ball over in 3 games now, and we won all of them. The point is that sometimes when you step back and take a look at results as a whole instead of zeroing in on one thing that looks bad to you, the picture looks completely different.
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(11-20-2017 10:46 AM)odufansam Wrote:  
(11-20-2017 10:37 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Seems like I am in the minority here, but I don't think MTSU looks markedly better than us. If we don't turn the ball over, and can get some pressure on Stockstill so he doesn't eat us up underneath, I think we have a good shot in this one.

We can't get pressure on a QB when we play 10-12 yards off receivers. Its been the struggle all year and any decent quarterback is going to eat us up 5 yards at a time.

This doesn't even make sense.
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(11-20-2017 10:05 AM)odufansam Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 05:47 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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Seems right to me. MTSU passes the eye test. They look like the better team especially with Stockstill back. Also, ODU didn't impress anyone by barely escaping a 1-10 Rice team. Anything can happen and hopefully we find a way.
Indeed.
It took last minute heroics to beat a consensus bottom 5 FBS team.

With Stockstill back and a very stout receiving corps led by Ty Lee, we will certainly be playing our soft 4-2-5 zone. Unfortunately, MTSU can also run. MTSU operates from multiple sets and some misdirection in the running game.
Our best chance to slow them down is put a lot of pressure the QB.

Something to also consider, especially at home; their kicker, Conrad Rooker is 7/9 from 40-49 yards and 2/2 over 50 yards.

The MTSU base 4-3 defense can be exploited. A consistent passing game, a good day by Lawry, and with the added threat of SW running, we hopefully can do some exploitin'.

MTSU is a top 100 program that gave WKU everything it could handle.
We will have to play our best game of the year PLUS get some breaks to have a chance to win.

MTSU 34
ODU 20
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To me analyzing the game is pointless. This a one game winner take all type of game. Yes we didnt play good against Rice especially on 3rd Down (#FireNagy) but we did see the emergence of SW on a season saving touchdown drive that ODU fan will remember for a long time. If we dont turn the ball over and can get off the field on 3rd and long we have a good shot to win. Right now we are just finding ways to win, pretty or not.
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(11-20-2017 11:00 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  MTSU is a top 100 program that gave WKU everything it could handle.

Just a reminder, so did ODU. They were lucky to leave Norfolk with a win.
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(11-20-2017 11:00 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-20-2017 10:05 AM)odufansam Wrote:  
(11-19-2017 05:47 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  I saw a line of MTSU -13.5. that seems very high

Edit: Now 12.5

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Seems right to me. MTSU passes the eye test. They look like the better team especially with Stockstill back. Also, ODU didn't impress anyone by barely escaping a 1-10 Rice team. Anything can happen and hopefully we find a way.
Indeed.
It took last minute heroics to beat a consensus bottom 5 FBS team.

With Stockstill back and a very stout receiving corps led by Ty Lee, we will certainly be playing our soft 4-2-5 zone. Unfortunately, MTSU can also run. MTSU operates from multiple sets and some misdirection in the running game.
Our best chance to slow them down is put a lot of pressure the QB.

Something to also consider, especially at home; their kicker, Conrad Rooker is 7/9 from 40-49 yards and 2/2 over 50 yards.

The MTSU base 4-3 defense can be exploited. A consistent passing game, a good day by Lawry, and with the added threat of SW running, we hopefully can do some exploitin'.

MTSU is a top 100 program that gave WKU everything it could handle.
We will have to play our best game of the year PLUS get some breaks to have a chance to win.

MTSU 34
ODU 20

I don't think they will have a ton of success running against us. I think it all comes down to whether or not they finish drives, because our soft coverage will let them move the ball down the field on every possession that we do not get a negative yardage play, which is where our point of agreement comes in, the pass rush is crucial. If they stay ahead of the chains and we don't get some big defensive plays, we are going to need to score a bunch.
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Rice is better than their record would indicate. I would guess they would beat Charlotte and probably a couple other CUSA teams at worst.

Their schedule has been ridiculous. Very tough non conference schedule and in conference:

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FIU- lost by 1 score
@UTSA- lost by 2 scores
LT- lost by 2 scores
@UAB- Blown out
USM- lost by 2 scores
@ODU- lost by 1 score


I expect MTSU to win, they are the better team. We are going to need a couple turnovers and Stevie to play the game of his life.
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(11-20-2017 11:04 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  To me analyzing the game is pointless. This a one game winner take all type of game. Yes we didnt play good against Rice especially on 3rd Down (#FireNagy) but we did see the emergence of SW on a season saving touchdown drive that ODU fan will remember for a long time. If we dont turn the ball over and can get off the field on 3rd and long we have a good shot to win. Right now we are just finding ways to win, pretty or not.

3rd and long is everything is everything for this defense.
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