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The race to find team #12 has taken a detour into SEC country. Apparently, the ACC is taking a long, hard look at UF, South Carolina and Kentucky.

Quote:The ACC has taken two teams from the Big East. An SEC team could be next.

"I'd say the ACC will try and recruit somebody from the SEC, maybe Florida, Kentucky or South Carolina," Arkansas athletics director Frank Broyles said Tuesday. "I wouldn't be surprised at all if the ACC went after one of our schools."

College sports experts say the ACC's addition of Miami and Virginia Tech this week is the beginning, not the end, of a shakeup in conference memberships that could go nationwide.

And if the SEC wants to avoid getting raided, it might look to change its rules. Miami and Virginia Tech had to pay $1 million apiece to leave the Big East, but there is no such provision in the SEC, and it's doubtful such a meager buyout would stop anybody anyway.

"There's nothing like that in our bylaws," said Mark Womack, executive associate commissioner of the SEC. "Currently an institution could be invited or could resign at any of our annual meetings."

That probably will change.

"I think it may be something that our presidents and athletic directors will discuss just based on this latest movement," Womack said.

Said Broyles: "I feel strongly that every league will start making preparations for what to do if a team left. I would think in a conference like the SEC, there would be a cost of about $10 million to $15 million on [a buyout]. I mean, that's the value of it."

One of the schools Broyles mentioned as potential targets, South Carolina, said it hasn't received any overtures.

"I've not been contacted," athletics director Mike McGee told The State newspaper. "That is so highly speculative, I wouldn't do anything other than to say we could not be happier in the SEC."

The ACC needs a 12th team to qualify for a football championship game under NCAA rules, and it isn't the only league looking for another team. The Big East needs two more football teams to have the eight required for it to remain a football conference.

Broyles said the strong level of football and basketball played in the SEC makes its members attractive targets. But the money the SEC generates might help it hold onto its members. The SEC distributed $101 million in revenue to its members in May.

Whatever movement takes place, Louisville clearly wants to be a part of it. The Cardinals have made no secret about their desire to improve on their situation within Conference USA and would be interested in joining either the Big East or the ACC.

"At this point, it is all speculation," Louisville athletics director Tom Jurich said in a statement provided to the AJC. "If any opportunity does exist to better the position of our university or improve the experiences of our student-athletes, we want to be in position to explore those options. . . . I have made it very clear [to Conference USA commissioner] Britton [Banowsky] that we will be very aggressive and very ambitious about our future."

Louisville probably is the most ready to move. The Cardinals spent $32 million on varsity sports last year, more than any other non-BCS school. They are annually one of the best football teams in their league and play in a relatively new football stadium. Also, Jurich two years ago hired former Kentucky and NBA basketball coach Rick Pitino, who made the Cardinals No. 3 nationally in basketball attendance last year, behind only Syracuse and Kentucky. Louisville would have to pay C-USA $500,000 to leave.

Conceivably, Louisville would be just as viable an addition to the ACC as to the Big East. However, its recent problems with academic performance and gender equity may be looked upon unfavorably by current ACC members.

The ACC, Big East and Big Ten all reportedly would like to lure Notre Dame football into their leagues. But it will be difficult to lure the Irish away from its football independence as long as NBC continues to write multi-million-dollar checks for broadcast rights of its games.

Wherever the Big East and ACC find new members, those moves will create vacancies, which could lead to more moves. The resulting domino effect could flow from conference to conference and from coast to coast.

"I'm not sure anybody knows what will happen," Womack said. "It's just a matter of individual institutions deciding what's best for them. When we expanded, I remember people saying it would completely change the landscape, and that hasn't happened."

Regardless of which teams join the Big East, that apparently won't have any immediate effect on the league's status as a BCS participant. There is no rule in the current contract, which expires after the January 2005 bowls, regarding the makeup of a member conference.

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With Florida's Big Three all in the same conference, I'm afraid some of the weaker ACC teams would take a yearly beating that might send them into 1-AA sports. I really wouldn't like to see that! :eek:
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i seriously doubt it. UF won't play Miami on a regular basis OOC. What makes you think they would want to be in the same conference as the 'Canes?? Plus, I have some serious doubts about FSU wanting UF in the ACC.

South Carolina is out also.

My $$ is on UK.
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DawgNBama Wrote:i seriously doubt it. UF won't play Miami on a regular basis OOC. What makes you think they would want to be in the same conference as the 'Canes?? Plus, I have some serious doubts about FSU wanting UF in the ACC.

South Carolina is out also.

My $$ is on UK.
I never said anything about anyone wanting to be anywhere.03-confused

I really don't see any more movement unless it's UK to the ACC. And, that's a far shot! :rolleyes:
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Frank Broyles is no idiot when it comes to these things, so I wouldn't be surprised if the ACC did come calling for one of those 3 schools.

I WOULD be surprised though if one of them left. With TV contracts and $$$$ rolling out of its ears, I doubt any school would leave the SEC for a conference with less TV rights and less $$$. Arkansas has been the topic of the Big 12 for several years, but Broyles said we're staying for the same reasons above.

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DawgNBama Wrote:i seriously doubt it. UF won't play Miami on a regular basis OOC. What makes you think they would want to be in the same conference as the 'Canes?? Plus, I have some serious doubts about FSU wanting UF in the ACC.

South Carolina is out also.

My $$ is on UK.
<span style='color:blue'>Dawg, Spurrier tried for years to play UM....UF could only get them when the 12th game came open.


Anyway, for selfish reasons I'd love to see UF in the ACC. I'd love to catch the Gators playing up here in NC..but it will never happen. </span>
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NCGatorBait Wrote:
DawgNBama Wrote:i seriously doubt it.&nbsp; UF won't play Miami on a regular basis OOC.&nbsp; What makes you think they would want to be in the same conference as the 'Canes??&nbsp; Plus, I have some serious doubts about FSU wanting UF in the ACC.&nbsp;

South Carolina is out also.

My $$ is on UK.
<span style='color:blue'>Dawg, Spurrier tried for years to play UM....UF could only get them when the 12th game came open.


Anyway, for selfish reasons I'd love to see UF in the ACC. I'd love to catch the Gators playing up here in NC..but it will never happen. </span>
Didn't know that NCGatorBait. BTW, why doesn't UF schedule NC State some time on the OOC sched? I really don't consider the Wolfpack a cupcake at all (heck, I wouldn't mind if my Dawgs played 'em sometime). Give UNC some time, and I won't consider them a cupcake either in football. :D
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[quote="DawgNBama"] [quote="NCGatorBait"] [quote="DawgNBama"] i seriously doubt it.
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NEVER!
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Gabi Wrote:NEVER!
What she said. Someone is hitting the bottle hard if they think Florida is leaving the SEC.


By the way, like NC said, Spurrier wanted Miami back on the schedule. Miami ducked it and in all reality with us already down a home game every other year to the Cocktail Party, we lose too much money by giving away another gate unless there is a 12 game season. UF-Miami is scheduled for the 12 game season in 2007, I believe. Not sure where it'll be played, though it seems to me that it'd be our turn to host the game.
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no one is leaving the SEC. Frank Broyles IS an idiot and is just wanting to see his name in print I imagine. Why would anyone leave??? All they have to do is finish in the top 7 and they get to go to a bowl. The revenue sharing outside of the SEC doesn't even come close to what they get by staying in the SEC.
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Florida played Miami last year and I do believe y'all are also playing them this year. :D

By the way Gators, love your media guide with the Croc on it... 03-lol 03-lol 03-lol

Last I heard, the ACC is courting Notre Dame.
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<span style='color:blue'>Ms Nole...I'm changing my name to NCCrocBait! :D 03-wink



BTW, here's the new helmets!</span>

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NCGatorBait Wrote:<span style='color:blue'>Ms Nole...I'm changing my name to NCCrocBait! :D 03-wink



BTW, here's the new helmets!</span>

[Image: CrocsAvatar.JPG]
04-cheers to you NC!!! :D
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NCGatorBait Wrote:<span style='color:blue'>Ms Nole...I'm changing my name to NCCrocBait! :D&nbsp; 03-wink



BTW, here's the new helmets!</span>

[Image: CrocsAvatar.JPG]



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TampaCajun Wrote:no one is leaving the SEC. Frank Broyles IS an idiot and is just wanting to see his name in print I imagine. Why would anyone leave??? All they have to do is finish in the top 7 and they get to go to a bowl. The revenue sharing outside of the SEC doesn't even come close to what they get by staying in the SEC.
Yeah...Frank Broyles belongs to Augusta National, raised over $120 million for stadium expansion, built or renovated every UA facility without spending a dime of taxpayer money, including Bud Walton Arena, named the #1 arena in college hoops, and Baum Stadium, named #1 in 1999, and this year was the #2 stadium in America (behind Auburn) coached a national championship football team, and was AD for the other 39 national titles won by Razorback athletics. He's easily the most powerful man in the state, and it's doubtful that any AD in the NCAA has done more for their program than Frank Broyles has for us.

But yeah, you call him an idiot TC. I guess Skip Bertman's IQ equals his shoe size if that's true.

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[quote="Gabi"] [quote="NCGatorBait"]<span style='color:blue'>Ms Nole...I'm changing my name to NCCrocBait! :D
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Croc is correct...

UF dropped Miami after the 1987 season.

SOS never attempted to get Miami on the schedule.

He was even quoted as saying they would have
to give up a home game and why would they want
to do that with 85,000 showing up for Akron.

I've got nothing against the financial logic...but you
know and I know...SOS wanted nothing to do with
the 'Canes.

They could add the 'Canes right now, if they wanted
too.

Those 1AA's and mid-majors are one or two years
in the making and are changed all the time. Miami
lobbied for a decade to get back on the UF schedule,
and why not...It was another easy win for them.
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Spurrier said that? Prove it. Can't can you? Just another Nole talking out of its arse.

Fact is, Spurrier wanted Miami back on the schedule and Miami ducked UF for several years. Miami also ducked the SEC.

You know and I know that you don't know $h!t but you like to run your mouth.


Well dadgumit, right now you have a senile ol' coach who dun sold his soul and it will be your program that will pay the price when he is kicking it in his adult diapers in a retirement home. So, you may want to keep quiet because you all are about to hit rock bottom.
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Oh...but I can prove it...

May take a day or two to go find it...but I'll
prove it!

No...not taliking out my arse...

Most of my buddies from High School days...were
Gaytors. When I was coaching...I dated the
granddaughter of JJ Tigert (Tigert Hall)...
and in the late 80's...dated one of the Director's
of Alumni Affairs at UF.

I'll not only prove he said it...but I will tell you why
the Gaytors dropped them.

Care to venture on...
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