Should Libraries be shut down?

(11-16-2017 11:37 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So have we all convicted him as a rapist and a completely immoral human being who should be shunned from decent society?

I have.

I'm waiting on DavidSt, the Chief of the Moral Police, to give me my marching orders.

Yeah. They are still getting their list of new words and indoctrination notes. It usually takes 24 hours

(11-16-2017 11:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:37 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So have we all convicted him as a rapist and a completely immoral human being who should be shunned from decent society?

I have.

I'm waiting on DavidSt, the Chief of the Moral Police, to give me my marching orders.

Yeah. They are still getting their list of new words and indoctrination notes. It usually takes 24 hours

Hmmmmm

You both bring up good points.

I'll get the kindling.

I figure we just burn him to be safe.

(11-16-2017 11:37 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So have we all convicted him as a rapist and a completely immoral human being who should be shunned from decent society?

I have.

I'm waiting on DavidSt, the Chief of the Moral Police, to give me my marching orders.

He'll probably defend Franken because Franken is the kind of socialist....I mean progressive he likes.

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So have we all convicted him as a rapist and a completely immoral human being who should be shunned from decent society?

I have.

Indeed.

Summarily.

I don’t need no stinkin evidence, proof, context or anything else.

Hang ‘em.

Mob justice is the only justice!

Maybe it wasn't touching-touching, just comedy-touching?

(11-16-2017 11:33 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:08 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:07 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Al Franken's response was really good. Whether the accusation is true or not, he's got good staff advising him

So you don't think he should resign immediately? Hmmm.....

Nope.

There's a difference between

1) One accusation and multiple accusations
2) The response of the accused in these cases. Franken's response is consistent of someone who isn't hiding anything.
3) And note, at least Franken had a reason to be physically in contact with the accuser. Physical comedy. There's no reason for Roy Moore to be asking out 16 year olds as a 32 year old man.

There's a whole LOT more allegations going on against Roy Moore. A lot more. At some point the sheer volume of accusations against Moore lends credibility to the charges. Remember the Franken case is a he said, she said. Moore's situation is a 'he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and the mall employees said...

Sure, investigate Franken. Lets see if other women come out against Franken. Lets see if there's any other issues going on. And Franken isn't acting like someone who has something to hide. Moore is.

So there is something wrong with liking younger females even when they are of the age of consent? I don't think there is any doubt he dated 18 year olds when he was in his 30s. So what? I don't think there is much doubt he dated 16 and 17 year olds when he was in his 30s. He married a 24 year old when he was 38.

The genuine question is whether the 14 year old is telling the truth and if any of the claims of him doing things against their will is true.

Let Roy Moore admit to asking 16 year old girls out on dates as a 32 year old, but not having sex with anyone under that....if you'd like to make that argument. I still think it makes him a creep.

BTW, this sh*t happens in the Gay community too. I had some creep in Alabama call my father to contact me to ask me out on a date (I had refused to give him my phone number when he previously asked - so the creep called my dad to get in touch with me). There was a 40+ year age difference going on.

BTW, theres no issue about age of consent in the Franken allegation.

Yes, Franken forced himself on her. Other than Gloria's client, I don't think anyone else is mentioning force with Moore.

Do you really want to go there on the 16 year old age issue? A lot of people think gay sex is pretty creepy. I would think you would be fairly libertarian on these issues, rather than moralistic and judgemental on people's dating and sexual habits. You certainly get upset about people moralizing and judging your habits.

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:21 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:08 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:07 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Al Franken's response was really good. Whether the accusation is true or not, he's got good staff advising him

So you don't think he should resign immediately? Hmmm.....

Nope.

There's a difference between

1) One accusation and multiple accusations
2) The response of the accused in these cases. Franken's response is consistent of someone who isn't hiding anything.
3) And note, at least Franken had a reason to be physically in contact with the accuser. Physical comedy. There's no reason for Roy Moore to be asking out 16 year olds as a 32 year old man.

There's a whole LOT more allegations going on against Roy Moore. A lot more. At some point the sheer volume of accusations against Moore lends credibility to the charges. Remember the Franken case is a he said, she said. Moore's situation is a 'he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and the mall employees said...

Sure, investigate Franken. Lets see if other women come out against Franken. Lets see if there's any other issues going on. And Franken isn't acting like someone who has something to hide. Moore is.

So now the burden of proof is the number of accusers not the validity of the claim. Well done.

LOL. Theres a difference between one accuser and a dozen accusers. Look, lets investigate. But there's a big difference between one person saying 'he did it' and a dozen unrelated accusers saying 'he did it" with multiple sources of additional corroboration.

Sure, lets investigate Franken. But there's a HUGE discrepancy in the volume of the accusations at this point.

So?

Isn’t just the appearance of impropriety enough? Sure has been in the past and not so recent past.

We have to investigate to see what might be there, right?

(11-16-2017 11:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Maybe it wasn't touching-touching, just comedy-touching?

Depends on the definition of "was."

(11-16-2017 11:42 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:33 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:24 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:08 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  So you don't think he should resign immediately? Hmmm.....

Nope.

There's a difference between

1) One accusation and multiple accusations
2) The response of the accused in these cases. Franken's response is consistent of someone who isn't hiding anything.
3) And note, at least Franken had a reason to be physically in contact with the accuser. Physical comedy. There's no reason for Roy Moore to be asking out 16 year olds as a 32 year old man.

There's a whole LOT more allegations going on against Roy Moore. A lot more. At some point the sheer volume of accusations against Moore lends credibility to the charges. Remember the Franken case is a he said, she said. Moore's situation is a 'he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and the mall employees said...

Sure, investigate Franken. Lets see if other women come out against Franken. Lets see if there's any other issues going on. And Franken isn't acting like someone who has something to hide. Moore is.

So there is something wrong with liking younger females even when they are of the age of consent? I don't think there is any doubt he dated 18 year olds when he was in his 30s. So what? I don't think there is much doubt he dated 16 and 17 year olds when he was in his 30s. He married a 24 year old when he was 38.

The genuine question is whether the 14 year old is telling the truth and if any of the claims of him doing things against their will is true.

Let Roy Moore admit to asking 16 year old girls out on dates as a 32 year old, but not having sex with anyone under that....if you'd like to make that argument. I still think it makes him a creep.

BTW, this sh*t happens in the Gay community too. I had some creep in Alabama call my father to contact me to ask me out on a date (I had refused to give him my phone number when he previously asked - so the creep called my dad to get in touch with me). There was a 40+ year age difference going on.

BTW, theres no issue about age of consent in the Franken allegation.

Yes, Franken forced himself on her. Other than Gloria's client, I don't think anyone else is mentioning force with Moore.

Do you really want to go there on the 16 year old age issue? A lot of people think gay sex is pretty creepy. I would think you would be fairly libertarian on these issues, rather than moralistic and judgemental on people's dating and sexual habits. You certainly get upset about people moralizing and judging your habits.

Seriously. That moral compass he holds is pretty freaking broken.

Both are pretty sick imo.

(11-16-2017 11:40 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:23 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So have we all convicted him as a rapist and a completely immoral human being who should be shunned from decent society?

I have.

Indeed.

Summarily.

I don’t need no stinkin evidence, proof, context or anything else.

Hang ‘em.

He signed her year book with two different pens after they saw the premier of Saturday night fever. That s good enough for me.

Hey Torquemada what do you say?

John Proctor, you're next

(11-16-2017 10:55 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

Look at that outfit. She was asking for it.

(11-16-2017 11:24 AM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:21 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:08 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:07 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Al Franken's response was really good. Whether the accusation is true or not, he's got good staff advising him

So you don't think he should resign immediately? Hmmm.....

Nope.

There's a difference between

1) One accusation and multiple accusations
2) The response of the accused in these cases. Franken's response is consistent of someone who isn't hiding anything.
3) And note, at least Franken had a reason to be physically in contact with the accuser. Physical comedy. There's no reason for Roy Moore to be asking out 16 year olds as a 32 year old man.

There's a whole LOT more allegations going on against Roy Moore. A lot more. At some point the sheer volume of accusations against Moore lends credibility to the charges. Remember the Franken case is a he said, she said. Moore's situation is a 'he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and the mall employees said...

Sure, investigate Franken. Lets see if other women come out against Franken. Lets see if there's any other issues going on. And Franken isn't acting like someone who has something to hide. Moore is.

So now the burden of proof is the number of accusers not the validity of the claim. Well done. They should all wear similar uniforms and get the accused in the middle of the night for efficiency.

Didn't Bill have like 18-20 women accuse him of sexual misconduct?

Don't ask Tom about Bill. You see in the world of libs, Bill is a saint and his actions were justified when he abused an intern or raped Juanita Broderick. It is the world of double standards libs live in. They relentlessly attack Trump after failing to even bother to admit Bill's criminal sexual history.

(11-16-2017 11:30 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:24 AM)Dasville Wrote:  Didn't Bill have like 18-20 women accuse him of sexual misconduct?

I was gonna bring him up. What is the threshold # for Dems?

Well, clearly greater than one. She apparently can be dismissed, like a mulligan on your first assault or something.

Unless there are pictures or something, then...

Oh. Wait...


And TIL wants to argue “age of consent” with the serial predator Smalley... how about consent, period!?!? Forget her age, she didn’t consent to being groped in her sleep no matter how old.

He’s gotta go!

By the way, MSNBC has the accuser coming on right now.

Why are people waiting?

Why hasn't he been seized and drug out of the county jail?

In fact, why hasn't he been arrested?

(11-16-2017 11:47 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:24 AM)Dasville Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:21 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:17 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:08 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  So you don't think he should resign immediately? Hmmm.....

Nope.

There's a difference between

1) One accusation and multiple accusations
2) The response of the accused in these cases. Franken's response is consistent of someone who isn't hiding anything.
3) And note, at least Franken had a reason to be physically in contact with the accuser. Physical comedy. There's no reason for Roy Moore to be asking out 16 year olds as a 32 year old man.

There's a whole LOT more allegations going on against Roy Moore. A lot more. At some point the sheer volume of accusations against Moore lends credibility to the charges. Remember the Franken case is a he said, she said. Moore's situation is a 'he said, she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and the mall employees said...

Sure, investigate Franken. Lets see if other women come out against Franken. Lets see if there's any other issues going on. And Franken isn't acting like someone who has something to hide. Moore is.

So now the burden of proof is the number of accusers not the validity of the claim. Well done. They should all wear similar uniforms and get the accused in the middle of the night for efficiency.

Didn't Bill have like 18-20 women accuse him of sexual misconduct?

Don't ask Tom about Bill. You see in the world of libs, Bill is a saint and his actions were justified when he abused an intern or raped Juanita Broderick. It is the world of double standards libs live in. They relentlessly attack Trump after failing to even bother to admit Bill's criminal sexual history.

Uh, Bill Clinton is not relevant.

And Bill Clinton was investigated.

(11-16-2017 11:47 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 10:55 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

Look at that outfit. She was asking for it.

Assaulted a officer in uniform while sleeping. He should face ethics charges and flack jacket sensitivity training.

I bet he cry on tv.