Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

(11-18-2017 12:18 PM)Usajags Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 12:00 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:41 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:50 AM)Bigtom12 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:21 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  Correct, my point was that a conference game in LR every other year against UALR would be beneficial to stAte. And, a home game in Jonesboro against UALR in football would garner more interest. Than playing UNLV or even most of our other conference foes

I agree it’s benecial to stAte and Little Rock. Plus I think it would piss off Arkansas, plus you have a stadium that holds 50,000 people not being used! All we need to do is get UTA in the mix and we are done stick with 12.

West
stAte
Louisiana
ULM
UALR
TxSt
UTA

East
CCU
GaSt
GASo
App St
Troy
S. Alabama

Only problem I have with this is that the Western side of the conference would not be as strong as the Eastern side of the conference. East could have up to 5 strong teams on any given year. I could see no more than 3 strong teams on the Western side in any given year.

If we did add both UTA and UALR they would have to bring it. I see growth potential for UALR I don’t see it with UTA the Dallas market is over saturated as is. Dallas already has 3 Division I-A schools around the Dallas area. UALR is a different animal with them being only one in Little Rock.

Dallas market
TCU
SMU
N.Texas

I suppose this is all just wishful thinking, but for it to really happen, it will take the Razorbacks exiting the LR market for good and Little Rock putting together a plan similar to what USA and Georgia State have done. In the end, they could have a decent program that would draw 15 to 20k per game to War Memorial. Long term, having a football program could reverse the course at their school of losing enrollment and being considered just a city college. Now I have to leave, got a 2 hour drive to Jboro to watch stAte put an a$$ whipping on the Bobcats!

I suppose its possible, but Little Rock drawing 15K to 20K consistently is hard to picture. Little Rock is just not a sports town.

We have a very weird sports dynamic in this state that outsiders often can't quite grasp.

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Yeah, I see it the same way. UTA is a school of nearly 40k students in a metroplex that has more then twice the population of the state of Arkansas. And it's hard to think of a Texas area being over saturated in football. Also, UTA does have a history, some of those folks, families, will return. UALR will have to create a following that has never existed.

I'm gonna encompass all the UTA talk into this one response.

As far as the Western side not being good, don't know that I agree there. Looking at UTA's success in all sports, some teams should oppose UTA starting a team. Our Athletic Department has shown it can run a successful and ethical sports team. We have twice missed the all-sports trophy by two points to a team that had three more sports. We have a desirable area to go to school and a high academic profile. Our main flaw is a lack of sports following, but...

We are a large school, so it appears less attended by the total enrollment. But our volleyball team is the second best attended program in the conference, our men's team has been in various points of the top three in the conference. Baseball and softball are top half, though there is a clear delineation between the top four programs and the rest in baseball. If we are top half in every team sport we play, why would football be different. Because there's TCU, SMU and the Dallas Cowboys?

In case people have missed it, there has been a huge resurgence of college basketball. SMU has been ranked in the top 25, TCU won the NIT, and UTA has been doing what we have in garnering attention. Our media profile has grown as we have gotten more competitive. And as for the Cowboys, no one rationally thinks UTA will compete for the same fans. I think people forget that the NFL is expensive. $25 might get you standing room on the "party deck" but there isn't much to be had below $100. Plus the Cowboys attract all across the state. UTA is looking for alums, current students and nearby residents.

Back in the day, Arkansas State, North Texas and UTA had similar attendance figures. The Red Wolves increased a lot due to winning and Mohajir. North Texas stays in the 18,000 range. I see no reason UTA wouldn't be better or on par with ULM, GSU, NMSU, Idaho, Coastal Carolina or even South Alabama.

The main drawback as I see it isn't competitiveness overall, but I don't believe UTA brings enough to the table to overcome the loss of the CFP money. At one million per team up to ten teams, I don't believe UTA would consistently keep the SBC at third place or better.

(11-16-2017 11:09 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 03:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I'm not sure where UALR finds the operating funds. This is the city that not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, BUT FIVE TIMES shot down proposals to host a bowl game because no one gave a crap once they found out it wouldn't be a way for the Hogs to play another game in Little Rock. But then again, the same city that told one of the tenants at the airport that they would not make the infrastructure investments they wanted, so FedEx moved two hours down the road to Memphis.

Pretty sure FedEx was started in Memphis, soooooo, perhaps they thought about moving to Little Rock at one point in time. But, in no way did they EVER "move down the road to Memphis" More like continued to operate its HQ in Memphis. Just Saying

(11-16-2017 11:17 PM)bp10 Wrote:  Pretty sure that it was originally in Little Rock and moved to Memphis, sooo...

Federal Express, a Little Rock-based jet air-freight line, is considering putting a branch operation at Memphis International Airport.

http://memphismagazine.com/features/ff40...all-began/

(11-16-2017 11:25 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 11:09 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 03:51 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  I'm not sure where UALR finds the operating funds. This is the city that not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, BUT FIVE TIMES shot down proposals to host a bowl game because no one gave a crap once they found out it wouldn't be a way for the Hogs to play another game in Little Rock. But then again, the same city that told one of the tenants at the airport that they would not make the infrastructure investments they wanted, so FedEx moved two hours down the road to Memphis.

Pretty sure FedEx was started in Memphis, soooooo, perhaps they thought about moving to Little Rock at one point in time. But, in no way did they EVER "move down the road to Memphis" More like continued to operate its HQ in Memphis. Just Saying

We know our own failures.

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(11-17-2017 11:20 AM)Usajags Wrote:  And Delta was started in Monroe, Louisiana.

I stand corrected. Little Rock is a cool little city IMO. Just think it has a lot of potential, and should aspire to resemble Nashville, as the center and capitol of the state

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

(11-22-2017 10:18 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

Yes, but the difference is that for years Arkansas would literally play their premier games in Little Rock. There were many times they would play more games in Little Rock than Fayetteville, every practice was open, and the school literally catered to the rest of the state. The reason was the geographical isolation of Fayetteville, which for years had zero major connecting highways to the rest of the state, meaning for many people in Arkansas, the Little Rock games, where access to major roads was plentiful, were the only chance for many fans to see the team play.

Then they built an interstate between Fort Smith and Fayetteville, connecting the two major hubs in Western Arkansas with Little Rock and the rest of the state. The school quickly began to retreat to Fayetteville, and Little Rock games became 2nd fiddle.

I grew up in Little Rock. People there are a weird breed. They are a people of convenience. They are not going to jump out and do anything different unless its convenient for them to do so. There are still people in Little Rock who will never drive the 2 and a half hours to Fayetteville because its too far. They expect everyone to cater to what they want, and don't give much back in return. The city sort of governs itself under those principles, and has lost out on numerous opportunities to other cities simply because they expect handouts.

When we talk about people in Little Rock becoming angry the Razorbacks left. They really are angry. They may still root for the Razorbacks, but their opinions of the people within the program are changing drastically. Throw in a losing team, and they were really in danger of actually losing some fans in other parts of the state, where other schools are available for them to root for.

(11-23-2017 12:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 10:18 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

Yes, but the difference is that for years Arkansas would literally play their premier games in Little Rock. There were many times they would play more games in Little Rock than Fayetteville, every practice was open, and the school literally catered to the rest of the state. The reason was the geographical isolation of Fayetteville, which for years had zero major connecting highways to the rest of the state, meaning for many people in Arkansas, the Little Rock games, where access to major roads was plentiful, were the only chance for many fans to see the team play.

Then they built an interstate between Fort Smith and Fayetteville, connecting the two major hubs in Western Arkansas with Little Rock and the rest of the state. The school quickly began to retreat to Fayetteville, and Little Rock games became 2nd fiddle.

I grew up in Little Rock. People there are a weird breed. They are a people of convenience. They are not going to jump out and do anything different unless its convenient for them to do so. There are still people in Little Rock who will never drive the 2 and a half hours to Fayetteville because its too far. They expect everyone to cater to what they want, and don't give much back in return. The city sort of governs itself under those principles, and has lost out on numerous opportunities to other cities simply because they expect handouts.

When we talk about people in Little Rock becoming angry the Razorbacks left. They really are angry. They may still root for the Razorbacks, but their opinions of the people within the program are changing drastically. Throw in a losing team, and they were really in danger of actually losing some fans in other parts of the state, where other schools are available for them to root for.

You are correct, LR people don't think much of the other parts of the state. They don't understand or believe they should make an effort. In this day and age, more and more sports fans who move to LR remain loyal to their roots. They move in and remain fans of Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida, whatever.

The old regime for Arkansas may make one final push to hold on by throwing a few more games at LR, but the clock is ticking and if their program doesn't get better soon, LR will slip further and further away.

(11-23-2017 09:21 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 12:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 10:18 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

Yes, but the difference is that for years Arkansas would literally play their premier games in Little Rock. There were many times they would play more games in Little Rock than Fayetteville, every practice was open, and the school literally catered to the rest of the state. The reason was the geographical isolation of Fayetteville, which for years had zero major connecting highways to the rest of the state, meaning for many people in Arkansas, the Little Rock games, where access to major roads was plentiful, were the only chance for many fans to see the team play.

Then they built an interstate between Fort Smith and Fayetteville, connecting the two major hubs in Western Arkansas with Little Rock and the rest of the state. The school quickly began to retreat to Fayetteville, and Little Rock games became 2nd fiddle.

I grew up in Little Rock. People there are a weird breed. They are a people of convenience. They are not going to jump out and do anything different unless its convenient for them to do so. There are still people in Little Rock who will never drive the 2 and a half hours to Fayetteville because its too far. They expect everyone to cater to what they want, and don't give much back in return. The city sort of governs itself under those principles, and has lost out on numerous opportunities to other cities simply because they expect handouts.

When we talk about people in Little Rock becoming angry the Razorbacks left. They really are angry. They may still root for the Razorbacks, but their opinions of the people within the program are changing drastically. Throw in a losing team, and they were really in danger of actually losing some fans in other parts of the state, where other schools are available for them to root for.

You are correct, LR people don't think much of the other parts of the state. They don't understand or believe they should make an effort. In this day and age, more and more sports fans who move to LR remain loyal to their roots. They move in and remain fans of Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida, whatever.

The old regime for Arkansas may make one final push to hold on by throwing a few more games at LR, but the clock is ticking and if their program doesn't get better soon, LR will slip further and further away.

If the Hogs have one successful year, they are good for another half century.

They may not be great at football, but they are masters of marketing to Arkansans and selling hope.

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(11-23-2017 10:16 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 09:21 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 12:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 10:18 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

Yes, but the difference is that for years Arkansas would literally play their premier games in Little Rock. There were many times they would play more games in Little Rock than Fayetteville, every practice was open, and the school literally catered to the rest of the state. The reason was the geographical isolation of Fayetteville, which for years had zero major connecting highways to the rest of the state, meaning for many people in Arkansas, the Little Rock games, where access to major roads was plentiful, were the only chance for many fans to see the team play.

Then they built an interstate between Fort Smith and Fayetteville, connecting the two major hubs in Western Arkansas with Little Rock and the rest of the state. The school quickly began to retreat to Fayetteville, and Little Rock games became 2nd fiddle.

I grew up in Little Rock. People there are a weird breed. They are a people of convenience. They are not going to jump out and do anything different unless its convenient for them to do so. There are still people in Little Rock who will never drive the 2 and a half hours to Fayetteville because its too far. They expect everyone to cater to what they want, and don't give much back in return. The city sort of governs itself under those principles, and has lost out on numerous opportunities to other cities simply because they expect handouts.

When we talk about people in Little Rock becoming angry the Razorbacks left. They really are angry. They may still root for the Razorbacks, but their opinions of the people within the program are changing drastically. Throw in a losing team, and they were really in danger of actually losing some fans in other parts of the state, where other schools are available for them to root for.

You are correct, LR people don't think much of the other parts of the state. They don't understand or believe they should make an effort. In this day and age, more and more sports fans who move to LR remain loyal to their roots. They move in and remain fans of Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida, whatever.

The old regime for Arkansas may make one final push to hold on by throwing a few more games at LR, but the clock is ticking and if their program doesn't get better soon, LR will slip further and further away.

If the Hogs have one successful year, they are good for another half century.

They may not be great at football, but they are masters of marketing to Arkansans and selling hope.

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So true. They have like three generations of fans due to supposedly winning a championship in the early 1960s.

(11-23-2017 10:16 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 09:21 AM)Rik Flair Wrote:  

(11-23-2017 12:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 10:18 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 04:48 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Friends, I live and work here in central Arkansas. Yes, the pig shite is still deep but the loyalty took a serious hit over the past few years with the withdrawal of the games in War Memorial, the closed practices, the limited media access to the program and mostly the losing. If I was a central Arkansas fan of that program or lived anywhere south of Little Rock I would take note that they've shown their true colors. They don't care about anything but northwest Arkansas.

With the firing of Jeff Long and (soon) Beliama, they're going to come courting again. The proper response it to find another team to root for. There are plenty in the state that could use the support and would be much more fun to back than the conceited program up there. Because as soon as they get back on a winning streak, they'll turn their backs on the little people who built their program again.

Not arguing with your point because I'm not from Little Rock, nor do I have a stake in the matter. However, there was a time Tennessee used to play home games in Memphis. At this time, it was where the money was in the state. A lot had to do that the medical school was located there. Anyways, my point is if the folks there said the same thing back in the 60s, though it didn't seem to affect the Vols. I don't know if the two situations are similar, but there still seems to be a large amount of Tennessee support here. Even with Ole Miss having more football success recently, and with Knoxville being a 5 hour drive, and Oxford only being a 1 hour drive.

Yes, but the difference is that for years Arkansas would literally play their premier games in Little Rock. There were many times they would play more games in Little Rock than Fayetteville, every practice was open, and the school literally catered to the rest of the state. The reason was the geographical isolation of Fayetteville, which for years had zero major connecting highways to the rest of the state, meaning for many people in Arkansas, the Little Rock games, where access to major roads was plentiful, were the only chance for many fans to see the team play.

Then they built an interstate between Fort Smith and Fayetteville, connecting the two major hubs in Western Arkansas with Little Rock and the rest of the state. The school quickly began to retreat to Fayetteville, and Little Rock games became 2nd fiddle.

I grew up in Little Rock. People there are a weird breed. They are a people of convenience. They are not going to jump out and do anything different unless its convenient for them to do so. There are still people in Little Rock who will never drive the 2 and a half hours to Fayetteville because its too far. They expect everyone to cater to what they want, and don't give much back in return. The city sort of governs itself under those principles, and has lost out on numerous opportunities to other cities simply because they expect handouts.

When we talk about people in Little Rock becoming angry the Razorbacks left. They really are angry. They may still root for the Razorbacks, but their opinions of the people within the program are changing drastically. Throw in a losing team, and they were really in danger of actually losing some fans in other parts of the state, where other schools are available for them to root for.

You are correct, LR people don't think much of the other parts of the state. They don't understand or believe they should make an effort. In this day and age, more and more sports fans who move to LR remain loyal to their roots. They move in and remain fans of Penn State, Notre Dame, Florida, whatever.

The old regime for Arkansas may make one final push to hold on by throwing a few more games at LR, but the clock is ticking and if their program doesn't get better soon, LR will slip further and further away.

If the Hogs have one successful year, they are good for another half century.

They may not be great at football, but they are masters of marketing to Arkansans and selling hope.

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Sort of. It needs to be a supremely successful, like College Football Playoff type year to really work. We're not that far removed from Petrino taking them to the Sugar Bowl, but you don't hear any of their fans talk about that anymore.

The issue is that the fans who really remember the big events in the history of that program are fans who are in their 60's and 70's. Younger fans just don't celebrate their few good years as much as the older ones still talk about a 1964 National Championship that zero major polls actually awarded them.

Eventually, those older fans are going to die off, and they are going to be stuck with a group of fans who don't have the same attachment to the old days. I think that's sort of why we're all of the sudden hearing "the game" brought back up. The fans who and people responsible for their original no instate games policy are dying off, and the new ones just don't care enough to make a big deal of it.

If you aren't here, you don't understand the dynamic

GSD = Great Stadium Debate, the never ending war between people who want the Hogs to play in LR vs those ready to end the LR games. The Hog fan site Hogville if you do a google search restricting it to just that site, and search "GSD" produces 1,230 results.

George Schroeder a national sports writer for USA Today used to work for a Little Rock paper. He once wrote for USA Today that because Arkansas has no real rivalry that the fans remain constantly at war with each other because they have no one else to fight with and cited the GSD and the battle from when Nutt was head coach over those who supported Nutt vs those who supported offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn. Nutt was brought down at Arkansas by the Malzahn supporters who firebombed the UA athletic program with FOI requests and discovered that Nutt had texted a female TV reporter numerous times (nice looker too) including just moments before Arkansas took the field for the Citrus Bowl among other things.

He lays it out nicely
https://www.si.com/more-sports/2012/04/1...ll-petrino