If we are going to continue 1 OOC P5, I would get rid of the ULM's and UTSA's and put on more bowl teams from lower tier conferences like Arkansas State and North Texas.

1 FCS
2 Bowl teams from next tier of conferences
1 P5

(07-02-2018 09:07 AM)BigBlueTiger901 Wrote:  If we are going to continue 1 OOC P5, I would get rid of the ULM's and UTSA's and put on more bowl teams from lower tier conferences like Arkansas State and North Texas.

1 FCS
2 Bowl teams from next tier of conferences
1 P5

What is your goal for the season...

Buts in the seats
Bowl Game
Access Slot
Playoff - (PIPE DREAM)

(07-02-2018 09:40 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 09:07 AM)BigBlueTiger901 Wrote:  If we are going to continue 1 OOC P5, I would get rid of the ULM's and UTSA's and put on more bowl teams from lower tier conferences like Arkansas State and North Texas.

1 FCS
2 Bowl teams from next tier of conferences
1 P5

What is your goal for the season...

Buts in the seats
Bowl Game
Access Slot
Playoff - (PIPE DREAM)

Only way we ever make the playoff is if you get a top 25 P5 team like UCLA, even though they **** the bed after we beat them, then have some conference luck and hope Houston, UCF, and one other are all in the top 25. Then hope the OOC teams you play make bowls.

Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

exactly

That's why the Big X11 fiasco was such a blow.

At least in NCAA basketball, non P5's have a shot at the Final Four.

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

That year and the year when Houston beat Oklahoma would have been the best two chances. **** UCF got hosed in the polls last year. People just didn't like them. When the first polls came out after we beat Ole Miss and we were only 12th you had pundits saying we were lowly ranked.

(07-02-2018 11:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

Yes. Our primary goal should be filling the Liberty Bowl. Good things, like recruiting success, will flow from strong attendance and fan support. Becomes a repeating cycle.

And your Access Bowl opinion is just that, an opinion. Better scheduling would help achieving that goal too. Why do you think the Access Bowl criteria rewards empty home wins versus the dregs of college football?

(07-02-2018 12:11 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Memphis will never make the 4-team college football playoffs. Will never happen. Once you accept that, you are more likely to accept idea of making the home OOC schedule as attractive and competitive as possible.

UCF was undefeated last year, was in the top 10 in all the polls, and was still 12th in the final College Football Playoff committee ranking. https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ull-top-25 A non-P5 will never be in the final 4 college football playoffs, for a variety of reasons.

Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

Yes. Our primary goal should be filling the Liberty Bowl. Good things, like recruiting success, will flow from strong attendance and fan support. Becomes a repeating cycle.

And your Access Bowl opinion is just that, an opinion. Better scheduling would help achieving that goal too. Why do you think the Access Bowl criteria rewards empty home wins versus the dregs of college football?

More losses less likely to make the access spot...

Better schedule means more probable losses hence lower chance...Tis what it Tis.

And yes the access spot does not care who we play OOC...If we have one loss and win the AAC we will get the access spot 95% of the time unless the AAC is crap that year.

Look at 'Bama OOC schedule last year for reference.

(07-02-2018 04:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 12:11 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:52 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Our playoff chances relies on the one P5 team we beat being top 5 and others in our conference being ranked.

Our best and likely only chance was Fuentes last year if Ole Miss could have won the SEC championship game and we could have won out...That would likely have been the perfect storm.

I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

Yes. Our primary goal should be filling the Liberty Bowl. Good things, like recruiting success, will flow from strong attendance and fan support. Becomes a repeating cycle.

And your Access Bowl opinion is just that, an opinion. Better scheduling would help achieving that goal too. Why do you think the Access Bowl criteria rewards empty home wins versus the dregs of college football?

More losses less likely to make the access spot...

Better schedule means more probable losses hence lower chance...Tis what it Tis.

And yes the access spot does not care who we play OOC...If we have one loss and win the AAC we will get the access spot 95% of the time unless the AAC is crap that year.

Look at 'Bama OOC schedule last year for reference.

Come on man. You can't compare Bama and Memphis. Bama plays 7 or 8 ranked teams every year in conference. And Bama opened the season neutral field vs. Florida State.

(07-02-2018 05:59 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 04:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 12:11 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

Yes. Our primary goal should be filling the Liberty Bowl. Good things, like recruiting success, will flow from strong attendance and fan support. Becomes a repeating cycle.

And your Access Bowl opinion is just that, an opinion. Better scheduling would help achieving that goal too. Why do you think the Access Bowl criteria rewards empty home wins versus the dregs of college football?

More losses less likely to make the access spot...

Better schedule means more probable losses hence lower chance...Tis what it Tis.

And yes the access spot does not care who we play OOC...If we have one loss and win the AAC we will get the access spot 95% of the time unless the AAC is crap that year.

Look at 'Bama OOC schedule last year for reference.

Come on man. You can't compare Bama and Memphis. Bama plays 7 or 8 ranked teams every year in conference. And Bama opened the season neutral field vs. Florida State.

Which are (at least last year) completely manufactured. Like LSU was a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
But it doesn't matter... you're right, because that's what the sports media think.

(07-02-2018 05:59 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 04:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 12:11 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:54 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)Tigx Wrote:  I like your optimism, but it doesn't matter.

Look at who is on the College Football Playoff committee. Guys from P5 schools and TV. Nobody on that committee is going to put an AAC school in the playoffs. It will never happen.

Look at the networks who pay billions of dollars to the P5 conferences for broadcast rights. ESPN, ABC, CBS don't want an AAC team as one of the 4 in the playoff.

We have zero chance of making the 4-team playoff. So let's schedule aggressively, get the highest attendance possible, and enjoy beating the Ole Misses and the UCLAs in our home stadium.

So your goal is good attendance... The way you want to achieve That goal hurts us getting the access spot.

Yes. Our primary goal should be filling the Liberty Bowl. Good things, like recruiting success, will flow from strong attendance and fan support. Becomes a repeating cycle.

And your Access Bowl opinion is just that, an opinion. Better scheduling would help achieving that goal too. Why do you think the Access Bowl criteria rewards empty home wins versus the dregs of college football?

More losses less likely to make the access spot...

Better schedule means more probable losses hence lower chance...Tis what it Tis.

And yes the access spot does not care who we play OOC...If we have one loss and win the AAC we will get the access spot 95% of the time unless the AAC is crap that year.

Look at 'Bama OOC schedule last year for reference.

Come on man. You can't compare Bama and Memphis. Bama plays 7 or 8 ranked teams every year in conference. And Bama opened the season neutral field vs. Florida State.

I figured you come back with that...FSU was 7-6 about UCLA levels and Bama played 0 road games OOC.

AND we are talking about the access spot...So the SEC is the best P5 conference for the playoffs and they will be compared to other P5s

The AAC is the best non-P5 conference and will be compared to other non-P5s for the access spot...So we likely will be able to have 1 more loss than any other conference winner and still get the bowl bid. Similar to Alabamas situation with playing tougher teams in conference compared to other conferences

Therefore if people believe we can never make the playoff...More P5 OOC games only hurt our chances of getting the access spot because if we finish with 1 loss and win the AAC we are likely in.